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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:04 AM
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New SATs Show Education Suicide Is Working
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 05:06 AM by Hannah Bell
The new SATs are out with some predictable outcomes for a decade dedicated to narrowing the curriculum and teaching to tests and draining any care and joy from the classrooms, yet the "bold reformers" like charterite Jeanne Allen are calling for more of the same bullshit: "we must redouble our efforts to reform an education system that continues to spend more only to receive less in return."

A bit of different take from Fairtest yesterday (my bolds):

SAT college admissions scores released today show that “Test-and-punish school ‘reform’ policies are leaving more children further behind, even when measured by other standardized exams,” according to Bob Schaeffer, Public Education Director of FairTest, the National Center for Fair & Open Testing. Schaeffer noted, “The data contradict the claim that more high-takes testing improves educational quality and equity.”

A chart prepared by FairTest shows overall SAT averages declined since the “No Child Left Behind” (NCLB) federal testing mandates went into effect. At the same time, gaps between Whites and Asians, on the one hand, and historically disadvantaged minority groups, particularly African-Americans and Hispanics, grew larger. ACT scores, made public last month, demonstrated comparable patterns. Scores from the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) also indicate that educational progress has slowed in the NCLB era. Under NCLB, every public school student must be tested annually in grades three through eight and at least once in high school in both reading and math.

http://www.schoolsmatter.info/2010/09/new-sats-show-education-suicide-is.html


“Proponents of NCLB and similar state-level testing programs promised that overall achievement would improve while score gaps would narrow,” Schaeffer continued. “Precisely the opposite has taken place. Policymakers need to embrace very different policies if they are committed to real education reform.”


BUT THEY WON'T. BECAUSE ED DEFORM IS ABOUT 1) PROFIT & 2) UNION-BUSTING & 3) POWER & CENTRALIZED CONTROL

NOT KIDS, NOT EDUCATION.

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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 05:55 AM
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1. Teachers have been saying this for years, but no one listened and no none will now
Politicians think they are experts on education and won't hear otherwise (left, right, or in-between).
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:06 AM
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12. But what could teachers possibly know about this?
Few, if any, of them play basketball with the president!
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:55 AM
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17. Touche
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:27 AM
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19. Pfft. Teachers (and their unions) are just another interest group
It is not in the interest of the Democratic party to take people like them seriously anymore. Only legitimate business groups matter.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:11 AM
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2. Recommend
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:15 AM
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3. k&r
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:59 AM
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4. Of course it's not working. It wasn't designed to.
Because you are correct. "ED DEFORM IS ABOUT 1) PROFIT & 2) UNION-BUSTING & 3) POWER & CENTRALIZED CONTROL

NOT KIDS, NOT EDUCATION."
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:20 AM
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5. Mission Accomplished!!
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 07:21 AM by Fumesucker
What, you think this was an accident?

How touchingly naive.

Citizens who can think for themselves are troublesome and much more difficult to propagandize by the powers that be.

Edited for punctuation.

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newblewtoo Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:38 AM
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7. If I had a penny
for every time I heard this same thing uttered by some right wing nut I would be rich. In general the argument went like this: "The teachers unions are dumbing down the kids for a Communist takeover".

Someone please tell me how this line of reasoning does not give a black eye to our education system? I mean really, when in doubt bash education? Sorry but I am getting sick of it. Go blame someone else. Teachers have enough to deal with without fighting a rear guard action.

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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:01 AM
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11. Teachers are pushing high stakes testing?
I did not know that.

/Johnny Carson
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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:42 AM
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16. Do you honestly believe the public ed system isn't designed to produce workers of mediocre
intelligence?

That's naive of you.

There will always be teachers who go above and beyond to give more than this to students, but the purpose of public ed is to produce a literate populace valuable for employment, but not so valuable that they will outshine the oligarchy.
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another saigon Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 11:00 AM
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21. no accident at all. By design....
"In society today the public is essentially kept distracted and uninformed. This is the way that

governments maintain control. If you review history, power is maintained through ignorance."

~ Peter Joseph
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:32 AM
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6. So what are other countries doing right and hopefully we can hire their educated citizens
Instead of our illiterate ones?
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:01 AM
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14. Most European countries have a pyramid-style system which
would never be accepted here. Basically students are assessed throughout their educational careers and at certain 'choke points' they are not allowed to continue and tracked off to other types of education. Only the best and the brightest get to college, and the whole thing continues with the advanced degrees. Somewhat like the military for officers - "up or out" - get promoted or leave, except here those who don't go to college go to vocational education, community college style careers which don't require a B.A. Should also be noted that lack of a college degree is not so frowned upon there as it is here. The social stigma is much less. Would never work here but it does produce pretty good results.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:50 AM
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8. The Shame of The Nation by Jonathan Kozol
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:52 AM
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9. School "reform" was intended to make Neil Bush rich
and to bust the NEA. Successful on both counts.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 07:53 AM
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10. 2 plus 2 still equals 4. This article is just adding it all up and sure enough
The obvious is still obvious.
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End Of The Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:53 AM
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13. And now the "accountability" crap is infiltrating public higher ed, too
I guess the dumbed-down HS grads will eventually have plenty of dumbed-down universities to attend.


Look what's happening at Texas A&M:


Texas A&M System Will Rate Professors Based on Their Bottom-Line Value:

http://chronicle.com/article/Texas-A-M-System-Will-Rate/124280/


Texas A&M Releases Data on Faculty:

http://www.theeagle.com/am/A-amp-amp-M-releases-data-on-faculty


Makes me want to scream.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:54 AM
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20. That's taking the "publish or perish" mentality
to a whole new level
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 09:40 AM
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15. K&R'd!
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 10:20 AM
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18. Notwithstanding draining any care and joy from the classrooms and declining SAT and
ACT scores, is it plunge ahead in fully implementing yet another of junior's wrong-headed policies producing disastrous results? :shrug:
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 11:07 AM
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22. k & r
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