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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:01 AM
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Torture is a crime not a state secret
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20100915/OPINION04/9150338/-1/CYCLONE_INSIDER/Recognize-torture-for-what-it-is-A-crime

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The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals handed George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and Barack Obama a major legal victory. The court upheld the argument advanced by Obama's Department of Justice that Bush's rendition program - used to send victims to be tortured - involves "state secrets" and its legality, therefore, cannot be adjudicated by courts.

On Sept. 8, the New York Times responded with a scathing editorial: "Torture is a Crime, Not a Secret."

Torture is a crime. Some have argued, offhandedly, that it can also save American lives. If our laws against torture need changing to provide more "security" for our people, then let's change them. If we cannot or will not change our laws against torture, let's make sure everybody - from the president of the United States on down - obeys them.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:23 AM
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1. Want to really restore honor. Prosecute the war criminals.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:27 AM
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2. K&R
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 06:35 AM
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3. K&R
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:17 AM
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4. It's a state secrect because it is a crime.
welcome to the new reality.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:19 AM
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6. Excellent point
Hiding the truth for 70 years re David Kelly's murder in England is part of the same thing - 'it's a state secret because it's a crime'.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:18 AM
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5. it's a crime not to expose the crime. it shames this nation.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 12:02 PM
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8. Nailed it. n/t
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 08:54 AM
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7. and justice for all
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