Grand Old Party?

[Joe Chi Minh]

Seems to be an awful lot of references to the 'GOP' in these columns today. Not so much 'Republicans'. A concerted effort to rehabilitate the term? I think we should be told.

[daylan b]

1. ????

You do understand that the Tea Party and GOP "factions" are both within the Republican party right? The news is about their infighting.

[Joe Chi Minh]

2. So the GOP isn't far right? The impression I have is that the Tea Party

are no more or less than paid tools of the Republican Party. It has certainly been claimed on here in different posts and it makes sense. However, whatever the case, to try to make a contradistinction between the two 'factions' seems bizarre to me.

[daylan b]

7. If you don't see a difference between the candidates from last night

you aren't paying attention.

Why the Republican party would pay a tool to oust Castle and open the race wide up for a Democrat to take the seat back is beyond me.

BTW, the definition of "far right" on this board vs anywhere else are two completely different things. The blue dogs are to the far right if you base your opinion on this board.

[Joe Chi Minh]

8. No. I base it on European canons. As our former Chancellor put it,

surely, only half in jest, in the US, our UK Conservatives are looked upon as Communists. Certainly, our pre-Thatcher, One Nation Tories of the sixties would be so deemed.

[daylan b]

10. Well, there's the source of your confusion.

Trying to apply the terminology from one system to another is always going to cause that.

[Joe Chi Minh]

11. I expect you mean, canons of sanity would be too exotic to examine and compare, with

those of a circus - a famous flying circus, as it happens. Why put yourself down in such a facile manner?

[daylan b]

12. That's so adorable.

Do you feel smart now?

[Joe Chi Minh]

14. What's smart about knowing a simple truth all the insularity and control-freakery of

the US right and its wholly-owned media can't conceal, nowadays, even from their own people?

It wasn't smart for the rich Republican rednecks to alienate their historic base: the old money gentlefolk. They may have suffered from a similar, inordinate love of money, but that's all it was: similar, not as cynical and extreme.

They had standards. Just one of which will give you a picture of the difference: the number of Republican politicians who served in the military, either in Vietnam or Iraq, in comparison with the Democrats. Serving in the armed forces used to be feature of Republican old-money types, as it was of the Tories in the UK. And grotesque as the imbalance is, but while it may not, of course, be directly significant in terms of running the domestic affairs of the country, it is highly indicative of their pathologically esurient character and its corollary: a seemingly total absence of a spirit of sacrifice, of serving higher ideals - just a ferocious determination to further their own narrow, venal self-interest, and that, at the expense of the American people.

Was that too profound for you to figure out?

[daylan b]

15. Ahem. You are the one who confused the difference between the terms "GOP" and "Republican"

Not me.

[Joe Chi Minh]

16. Sorry. You lost me there! I don't see two essentially different sets of Republicans, today; you do.

I just deplore Democrats referring to the Republican party as the GOP.

Aneurin Bevan, the founder of our National Health Service, called our Conservatives, 'vermin'. You would never get a social- democratic, never mind a left-winger in Europe referring to their right-wing party as the GOP, mutatis mutandis. Though those European, right-wing parties would be viewed by you as Communists...

[daylan b]

17. And THAT is why you don't understand the current differentiation of the two

What is so hard to understand?

You don't see the difference between teabaggers and the GOP, cool, no big deal, you're not the first ignorant person in the world and you won't be the last.

Don't get upset when people point out the fact that there is a difference.

[Joe Chi Minh]

19. Ha! Ha! The day the nonsense of an idiotic freeper upsets me will be a sad

day indeed!

[daylan b]

20. What?

You don't understand the news and that makes me a freeper?

You should probably start calling 90% of this site freepers as well because they realize the difference as well.

[daylan b]

21. Fucking freepers on the front page of DU now...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4546288

I can't belive there are so many freepers on this site. Now they're getting stuff put on the front page of the site.

[mmonk]

3. The G.O.P. now stands for

Goobers On Patrol.

[cliffordu]

4. Well....

:rofl:

BWAHAHAHAHaHaHaH aH aH aaHa HaH aHaHahaHAHAHAHAH AHaHa HaH a

[mmonk]

6. I'm in the planning stages of that being a bumper sticker

(planning to come up for some things at a new cafepress site).:)

[Joe Chi Minh]

5. That sems to fit. Or used to. I'm not sure that there are that many genuine tea-party types

prepared to court economic oppression and homelessness with the demented zeal voting for the Republicans would reflect.

[old mark]

9. Republicans use GOP because it is easier for them to spell.....nt

[opihimoimoi]

13. Yup, Too easy///LOL

[L0oniX]

18. Grand Old Pedophiles

* Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after “sexually explicit” e-mails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year-old boy.

* Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper was arrested for soliciting sex from a 13-year-old girl on the Internet.

* Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year-old girl.

* Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year-old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.

* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year-old girl and was sentenced to 10 years’ probation.

* Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year-old boy.

* Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the

age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.

* Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano was arrested for sexually molesting a 14-year-old girl.

* Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13- and 14-year-old girls.

* Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.

* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year-old girls.

* Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the Internet.

* Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year-old girls.

* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

* Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.

* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

* Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year-old girl he murdered.

* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years’ probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year-old girl.

* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year-old black girl, which produced a child.

* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

* Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year-old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.

* Republican activist Lawrence E. King Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

* Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and
sentenced to one month in jail.

* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

* Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his stepdaughter.

* Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.

* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

* Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police
on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

* Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year-old boy and possession of child pornography.

* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year-old babysitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

* Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

* Republican talk-show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11-year-old girl.

* Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year-old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

* Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

* Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the Internet from a 14-year-old girl.

* Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year-old boy.

* Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e., exposing himself to children).

* Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year-old girl.

* Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a boy.

* Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

* Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

* Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year-old girl.

* Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6 months in prison.

* Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer
and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

* Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

* Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the Internet.

* Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

* Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

* Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.

* Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year-old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

* Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.

* Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year-old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.

* Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency.

[laureloak]

22. No longer the Grand Old Party. Now it's just the Old Party. n/t