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Wed Sep-15-10 04:06 PM
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Jon Stewart interviews DNC Chair Tim Kaine about Dem Strategy |
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Tim Kaine calls the Democrats the underdog party, despite their control of the Senate, the House and the executive branch. Kaine unveils new strategy for Mid-Terms. http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-september-8-2010/tim-kaine
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Wed Sep-15-10 04:07 PM
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1. Uh, democrats are the underdogs. |
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It's the Republican's election to lose.
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Wed Sep-15-10 04:55 PM
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5. I think Kaine was saying that "Underdogs" meant fighting for the "Little People." |
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Gnomes, Elves...Unemployed, Homeless, Gay Military Policy, Veterans of our Wars, Women in the Workforce, Pensioners, Sick People and the rest who don't have a voice in Politics today.
I thought it was an attempt to address that Dems are for the Underdogs who have little hope and Repugs are for the Fat Cats who got Wall Street Bailouts and created Financial Bubbles that stole wealth from the Country that could have gone to good things like: Re-Building Infrastructure, and working towards having a less energy dependent America.
:shrug:
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Wed Sep-15-10 04:10 PM
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2. Stewart acting like a spoiled child in this interview |
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Sadly Jon has never treated a Republican as poorly as he treated Tim Kaine. An example of what I am talking about.
Stewart- "you have no facts"
Kaine- "here are the facts...."
Stewart- "I lost interest in what you were saying after the first sentence"
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Wed Sep-15-10 04:49 PM
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4. Agree on this point.... I was surprised he wasn't more impressed withthe Keychain... |
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because it's a catchy phrase and builds off Obama's Speech about not "giving keys to Repugs...because they don't know how to DRIVE!"
I thought that Stewart should have spent more time on "pushing the message" that Kaine was trying to reinforce that builds on Obama's Labor Day (or maybe it was the follow up Town Hall Meeting) where he did a great joke about the Repugs...which should be the MEME that we Dems should push.
REPUGS DON'T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE... A "Key Chain" is a good reminder of that Meme. In Marketing Speak...it's Kicking off your Brand and Imprinting on your consumer the Message you want them to understand and buy.
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Wed Sep-15-10 05:13 PM
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13. It's also a reminder that were the party that isn't as bad as the other one |
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Wed Sep-15-10 04:10 PM
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3. Fucking loser talk from a loser. |
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Wed Sep-15-10 04:58 PM
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6. Do you mean Stewart...or Kaine? |
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Wed Sep-15-10 04:59 PM
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7. that's it timmy boy, think small |
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Wed Sep-15-10 05:02 PM
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8. Desiging A Logo That Will Be Used As A Target |
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on the heads of every Democrat in congress, and the First Family was fucking brilliant!
I miss Howard Dean and this guy is so underwhelming.
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Wed Sep-15-10 05:09 PM
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10. I know...but Kaine is what we have....and have to deal with... |
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I would hope someone better would come along...but he's Obama's Choice and Obama is the President.
Maybe Kaine will get "more engaged" in the coming month of October. I think he really thought the Key Chain was a Building Block to get folks to be energized. Bumper Stickers and other stuff could follow to get the Campaign Enthusiasm Ramped up going to November.
Hey...I'm sure he has great consultants guiding him. Surely they know how to WIN. After all OBAMA WON...against ALL ODDS.. Maybe they know something that we don't out here. In fact: "I'm Sure they know something we don't know....because we "Underdog Dems" managed to WIN in '08.
So there's always hope that the BEST AND BRIGHTEST MINES are behind Time Kaine and the DNC's Strategy of "faking out Repugs" and letting them ride...and that the American Voter will make the REAL CHOICE this November ...because the consequences are just too terrible if the Palinites/Tea Partiers WIN.
We gotta hope...and figure that these folks know what they are doing. They have AMPLE RESOURCES...and are SMART and CLEVER.
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Wed Sep-15-10 05:12 PM
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12. I pray that it was a new intern who came up with that keychain |
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If what's his name really thinks this was a good idea. Well, just fuck.
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Wed Sep-15-10 06:14 PM
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16. It might have been a "new intern" with Marketing Degree from Wharton School... |
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A friend of mine has a kid there...he's leaning how to Brand Products and other things...he's very excited about it. I'm not sure if this kid will have a job in a Downsizing Economy...with what he's been taught which seems "Old Economy" from his Professors.
BUT! I wish him well...he will learn and adapt ...if he's clever and keeps his ear to the ground.
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Wed Sep-15-10 05:08 PM
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I have said this for months,all of this nicety,nicety,nuance bullshit talk..Spell it out clearly Dems!
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Wed Sep-15-10 05:10 PM
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The only thing that is going to save our asses in November is that the Republicans have decided to commit hari kari. We're going to win, not because we deserve it but because they are throwing the fight.
This reminds me of the Jon I saw first on Crossfire 4 years ago. That was the day I realized he wasn't just a comedian but a liberal who genuinely cared and who also happens to have great comedic timing.
He gave what's his name no quarter. And none was deserved. A keychain that says "Don't give them the keys back". Really. I mean, really?
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Wed Sep-15-10 08:45 PM
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22. I do believe that Stewart is a Dem...and he wanted to work for Change... |
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I've not seen anything to discourage me about him. But, he is a comedian wit...and likes to snark..and provides a valuable perspective that our MSM doesn't do at this point...being that they the MSM are more focused on the Perpetual Campaign...and the GAME of Politics. Many of them had grounding in wanting to be "Sports Analysts." And Roone Arledge who founded Sports Reporting to make in Interesting for the Average Viewer and "grow the brand," were weaned on his tit. It's what we and they all grew up on.
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Wed Sep-15-10 05:13 PM
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14. Who's the brainiac that put that idiot in charge? |
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Wed Sep-15-10 05:23 PM
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But most everything in this administration has that smell.
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Wed Sep-15-10 06:58 PM
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17. It does...but do we give too much credit to Rahm? |
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Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 07:00 PM by KoKo
Shouldn't it be TOP DOWN? After all... Rahm isn't the President...even though he was an Architect of this Administration from the Beginning.
It's hard to know what to think. But, remember our only Left Think Tank, "Center for American Progress" and the "Nation Magazine" assured us that if we Elected Obama he would listen to us...and "We could Run Him!" (quote from Nation Magazine back in October or something of 2008.)
So...If our own Liberals TOLD US that OBAMA WAS THE ONE...why shouldn't we have listened to them? It was our NETWORK we'd worked for TELLING US...that "HE, WAS THE ONE!"
:shrug:
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Wed Sep-15-10 07:14 PM
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Thing is, Obama is likable and Rahm is not. And I don't think it's chance that Obama picked him as his own Turdblossom. No, Obama isn't even in the same universe of bad as Bush, but he learned a trick or two from him, whether we like to admit it or not. Rahm will be leaving soon to be Mayor of Chicago (sorry Chicago) but Obama had best realize soon that if he doesn't become a populist in the mold of FDR, he will be following Rahm home in 2012 and God help us all with who we'll have instead since no one will likely primary Obama so.......
Please Obama, stop listening to the Beltway Bastards and start listening to your constituents. We don't need your speeches (pretty as they are - not like your predecessor), we don't need your new and improved DNC website, we need action. Decisive action and damn the consequences. The time for being timid is over. Actually, it never should have been there but we can't cry over spilled milk or the last, mostly wasted two years. You need to act decisively and now.
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Wed Sep-15-10 08:18 PM
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19. I understand...we keep trying to tell our new President...over and over and over... |
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Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 08:19 PM by KoKo
Sometimes we sound like Cassandra's. But, the truth of it is.....we've been hanging around "TRUTH" for 10 years..or more...decades for some of us.
When do they GET THE MESSAGE...? We have to remain hopeful. "Something will Turn Up." read Dickens.
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Wed Sep-15-10 08:30 PM
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Wed Sep-15-10 08:42 PM
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Wed Sep-15-10 08:47 PM
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23. I know it was disappointing...how do we make the best of it, though.. |
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We have what we have with our new Administration... There are things we could do and might do...but, maybe it's worth it to wait until after the Mid-Terms..which seem heading for CRACK UP. But, we pulled it out before...(I'm impatient...seeing so many prat falls) but they did win. We did vote for them...and maybe they will LISTEN...before it's too late.
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Thu Sep-16-10 07:07 AM
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24. In a country full of talented |
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people why are we saddled with this incompetent?
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