Are you proud to be a human being?

[Duer 157099]

I started wondering about this today. Are you, as a member of the human species, proud of what your species has done? Why or why not?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. I'm glad I ain't no chump ass marmoset.

What have those fuckers ever done for anybody?

[HysteryDiagnosis]

25. Easy on the smoke there pardner, it's affecting your appearance

and furthermore, a Marmoset would be bright enough not to post this:




http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episodes/clever-monkeys/introduction/3946/

Clever Monkeys
Introduction

Just how smart are monkeys? Their innate curiosity leads them to try new things, but it’s their culture — the passing of information from one generation to the next — that teaches them much of what they know. Their young learn by reaching out with their hands to experience the world around them, grasping new objects, slowly piecing together an understanding of their society. They learn from their families how to find food, communicate, recognize kin, even use tools, medicine, and language. It is these familiar actions that make monkeys so fascinating to humans. We can see ourselves in their faces, our nature in their actions.

NATURE travels around the world to visit some of these fascinating primates. From tiny pygmy marmoset in South America to aggressive baboons of Africa and compassionate toque macaques in Sri Lanka, Clever Monkeys challenges many ideas about what is purely “human.”

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

27. Marmosets roll with that zircon shit.

But even they aren't dumb enough for electric universe.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

30. Second ad hominem within 10 minutes, you sir are on a roll, or

you are rolling something, heh.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

31. Um, you're the one who wanted to continue discussion form another thread.

While posting an ad hominem at the same time.

Go figure.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

32. Failed your test btw.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

34. Oh?

[HysteryDiagnosis]

35. Yup, and you along with the rest, simply don't know what you

are looking at, but no bother it will work itself out in time.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

37. They call that "delusions of grandeur."

Not your image. You're delusions that you know something about the universe that scientists don't.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

39. Not me, 600 other cosmologists, plasma physicists, astronomers

and electrical engineers. They have the problem not me.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

41. They also have delusions.

They're pretty fucked in the head. Rather a plague on the human race.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

56. Since persons of your ilk worship the peer review process....

Title:
Filamentary structures in planetary nebulae
Authors:
Dahlgren, Hanna; Carlqvist, Per; Gahm, Gösta F.
Affiliation:
AA(Space and Plasma Physics, School of Electrical Engineering, Royal Institute of Technology (KTH)), AB(Space and Plasma Physics, School of Electrical Engineering, Royal Institute of Technology (KTH)), AC(Stockholm Observatory, AlbaNova University Centre)
Publication:
Astrophysics and Space Science, Volume 310, Issue 1-2, pp. 65-72 (Ap&SS Homepage)
Publication Date:
07/2007
Origin:
SPRINGER
Keywords:
Planetary nebulae, Filaments, Double helix mechanism, NGC 3132, NGC 7293
DOI:
10.1007/s10509-007-9414-y
Bibliographic Code:
2007Ap&SS.310...65D

Abstract

We have studied small-scale, filamentary features in 14 planetary nebulae and found that some structures are recurrent and shaped like the letters V and Y, with the apex or stem pointing toward the central parts of the nebula. Two such filaments containing dust, one in NGC 3132 and one in NGC 7293, were investigated in more detail. The mass and density of the filaments were obtained from extinction measurements, and their physical properties were derived. We propose that the structures are confined by magnetic fields, and derive magnetic field strengths of about 10‑8 T, in line with earlier estimates. We also estimate the magnitude of the electric currents that we expect are generated in these dynamic systems. We propose a theory where the magnetic fields control the sculpting and evolution of small-scale filaments. This theory demonstrates how the substructures may form magnetized flux ropes that are twisted around each other, in the shape of double helices. Similar structures, and with similar origin, are found in many other astrophysical environments.

[Fuzz]

2. Don't have much choice in the matter, so I don't worry about it.

I can only be proud over what I have control, imho.

[Duer 157099]

12. Well I was thinking about that compared to nationalism

which for the most part, people also don't have control over, yet they feel guilty unless they are proud of whatever country they associate with.

When I think about all the shameful things that the human race has done, I don't feel guilty one bit about not being proud of being human. But there's a shame associated with saying the same about one's nationalism.

Just kind of weird.

[Fuzz]

15. Patriotism also sucks. It's a round world last time I checked.

[tridim]

3. Absolutely

I just think about art and music, and it all makes sense.

[Duer 157099]

17. Yes, art (in all forms) is, imho, the only thing our species should be proud of

When all is said and done, art is truly what is remembered about any civilization, I think.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

33. How about putting people on the moon?

[SemiCharmedQuark]

50. What about wiping out diseases?

If a bug comes along, it can wipe out other species. We are the only ones able to do something about it.

[VioletLake]

Maybe a better question is:

Do you enjoy being a human being? Why or why not?

[Demeter]

7. Or: As a human being, what are you doing to improve the species?

[VioletLake]

9. That's a good question too. :) nt

[Xipe Totec]

4. I'm striving to become a humane being nt

[OneGrassRoot]

29. ...

:thumbsup:

:hi:

[BeyondGeography]

5. Plumbing

Huge.

[Old Troop]

6. It's not like I had a choice (although given a choice, I'd choose human)

[Demeter]

10. In my next life, I'm coming back as a well-loved domestic cat.

[mitchum]

13. That's also my plan

[VioletLake]

14. Well-loved is always preferable. nt

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

43. Me, too. What a great gig.

[MineralMan]

54. And then you can have humans as slaves. Cats rule the universe.

[cleanhippie]

8. Considering that most conservatives qualify as Neanderthals......

Yes.

[mitchum]

11. No, I'm a misanthrope

[TK421]

16. Show me something this species has accomplished that I should be proud of

and maybe I'll say yes

until then, humans in general disgust me ( and I include myself, since hey...I didn't ask to be born )

[hlthe2b]

18. Humans (some) may be smarter... but Dogs are infinitely better

;)

[Duer 157099]

20. And happier

:thumbsup:

[hlthe2b]

22. No doubt...

no doubt at all...;)

[TexasObserver]

19. Neither proud, nor ashamed.

We're talking monkeys.

[HopeHoops]

21. Tough question. REALLY tough question. I LIKE being a humanoid. Proud? Tough question.

[AnArmyVeteran]

38. Since I'm against bestiality I guess I'm happy there are other humanoids out there.

[HopeHoops]

40. If my wife was against beastiality she'd be out of luck.

I'm a beast in bed.

:evilgrin:

[TK421]

42. so we've heard!

:D

[AnArmyVeteran]

48. LOL, like a mouse or a mountain lion?

[HopeHoops]

57. That depends on whether she's feeling submissive or like a flaming dragon from Hell.

I'll take either.

[AnArmyVeteran]

59. All these lustful thoughts being posted on DU is going to get God to zap this site!

[AnArmyVeteran]

60. All these lustful thoughts being posted on DU is going to get God to zap this site!

[Dappleganger]

23. Really haven't thought about it.

I am proud to be my momma's daughter, however. ;)

[HockeyMom]

24. Animals are more compassionate

They only kill for a reason as in food, a mate, etc. Humans kill just to feel superior to others.

[elocs]

26. No. Just, no. n/t

[NC_Nurse]

28. I don't understand being proud of something you had no control over, I feel the same

way about being "proud to be an American". Accident of birth. Lucky maybe, but not proud.

As far as being human goes, my feelings about us as a species are mixed. Some days are better than others. We are capable of great things, and other things too.

[surrealAmerican]

58. I feel the same way.

I may be GLAD to be an American, a woman, a human, an earthling, etc., but not proud. I can be proud of accomplishments, not what I was born with.

[AnArmyVeteran]

36. The human race is definitely not the most advanced species on earth.

It's a damned freak show!

[stuntcat]

44. art/poetry/music/science, all incredibly, cosmically beautiful, but I'm ashamed & scared of humans.

We're killing the oceans, leveling mountains, erasing forests, causing a mass-extinction. Yet most of the citizens of the most powerful countries can't be bothered with what's happening. Even the ones who act like they care don't take it seriously enough, the planet comes like ninth on the lists of what's important to everyone.

I have to live 40 more years. The disasters will get worse, the wars will be over resources like water and clean air instead of the fossil fuels we used to quadruple our population. Perfectly healthy animals will be wiped out.. is that not the most cosmically Evil thing, for one species to wipe out so many others? Especially when so many of us are proud just of being Humans. Yeah, that says a lot for us.

2050 I'll still be here. I wish I was wrong about the future.

[LostInAnomie]

45. Meh...

We've got the best looking women.

[Raksha]

46. That's a damn good question!

I don't know; I guess it depends on when you ask me and what I happen to be thinking about at the time. What I've been reading, who I've been talking to and what the day's headlines are, etc. Some days I'm not proud to be a human being AT ALL, and they seem to be getting more and more frequent.

[Taverner]

47. Meh. Who are we to compare ourselves to?

Perfection?

I ask perfect what?

[d_r]

49. yes I am

I think we are freaking amazing. Incredibly beautiful and sickeningly ugly. Amazingly resilient and tragically fragile.

[Booster]

51. I'm proud of myself on the issue, but really disappointed in most

members of the human race. The only thing that keeps me from becoming totally depressed about this is the fact that every animal (well almost) on the planet also kills. My best little cat in the world almost daily brings me something he's killed and I just take it, dig a hole in the yard, and bury it. The irony is he does this to please me.

[jdp349]

52. Sapience is tough and doesn't come with a users manuel

but I think we'll get the hang of it eventually.

I'm proud of being a human. I just wish we didn't have to learn everything the hard way.

[MineralMan]

53. I had no choice in the matter. Why would I be proud?

I only take pride in my accomplishments.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

55. "Man is the only animal that blushes...or needs to." Mark Twain

[stuntcat]

61. +1

!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup: