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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 05:42 AM
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Is 9-11 the reason we've allowed these assholes to get away with so much?
IS IT?
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 05:48 AM
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1. Ah, "9/11"
It's the new Motherhood, Apple Pie, and the American Way.

Didn't ja get the memo?
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 05:49 AM
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2. I know dubya & rudy OWN it, but it's so....passe'.
So distant, no one really wants to talk about it anymore.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 05:58 AM
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6. Passed on to lore, actually.
Tales are told, songs are sung, and the truth is lost in the mists of History.

BTW: Since Rudy owns it, does that mean he has a patent on it too? Will, someday in the distant future, like the fable of Cinderella, there will Theme Parks dedicated to the 9/11 fable owned by the descendent's of Rudy?
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 08:14 AM
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20. Wow, a 9/11 Theme Park.
What an audacious idea! I already know what the main ride will be, too.

Seriously though, even this event will pass out of living memory, and once it does it will lose all or most of its meaning and horrificness, if that's a word. (How often do you fret about the Johnstown Flood?) Under those conditions, some sort of "disaster" theme park featuring 9/11 is not that difficult to imagine.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 08:22 AM
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30. Disaster Tourism!
Edited on Sun May-20-07 08:24 AM by maine_raptor
Take a look at some of the fab tourist attractions we have now already.

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/OHAVAdirigible.html

:rofl:

Disaster Tourism is happening in New Orleans even as I type:

http://travel.news.yahoo.com/b/rolf_potts/rolf_potts2915;_ylt=AiU6o2Gp_KWuj6

What the hell, Disaster Tourism might just be the next growth industry once Bushco get done.

:shrug:







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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 05:50 AM
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3. Ci. I mean "Oui".
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 05:53 AM
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4. Nah...pure cowardliness did it
911 was just the available excuse to hide the cowardliness behind.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 05:53 AM
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5. The enemy in the White House is still milking this excuse to
be afraid, be very afraid.

There are still too many people in this country that do not understand that the worst terrorist are not in the Middle East, they are in the White House. Until that is fully understood, we cannot adequately deal with them.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 06:31 AM
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9. You are so right.
George Bush is the terrorist we should worry about most.

He is killing our Bill of Rights and Constitution with every signing statement, with every lie he tells us and the media, and with every manipulation of the system to get what he wants.

He he and his administration been doing their job prior to 9/11, it's likely the attacks could have been stopped. But they ignored the warnings, placing America in harm's way.

Which is exactly why I keep wondering why impeachment isn't on the table.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 06:10 AM
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7. Absolutely
They knew going in that a new 'Pearl Harbor type attack' was going to be necessary to get the American people into the mindset needed to implement their plans.
We have been fighting this ever since.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 06:19 AM
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8. Foundation myth for the GWOT
Edited on Fri May-18-07 07:07 AM by leveymg
It was in its hallowed name that so many and so much were sacrificed.

L. Ron Hubbard had the inspiration to note that religion could be conducted as intelligence operation and business, and vis-a-versa. In cults, the greater the sacrifices demanded, the more absolute the power weilded by the leader. The followers are convinced to give up everything in the name of faith. Suffering and poverty becomes its own reward. That's exactly the principal Bush-Cheney applied to the U.S.

Too bad that it was all really a shrine to the stupidity, incompetence, and pig-headedness of one developmentally challenged eight-year-old who wanted to play Prezetent.
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Nunyabiz Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 06:32 AM
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10. What I find sickening
is the fact that approx. 50% of the American public knows (even with a total media blackout) that this administration planned and executed the false flag attack on 9/11 and yet nothing is being done because the Mainstream Media refuse to acknowledge it because they were clearly complicit in the cover up.

More than 50% of Americans know that the MSM lies continuously, is there some Pavlovian reason that we must see it on the Mainstream news before we react & take this country back?

If so then shouldn't we completely destroy Faux Noise to send a message to the rest of them so we can get this ball rolling?
If we wait for our so called elected officials to do something then we are all in a dreamland because all they are ever going to do is pretend to be concerned and nothing will ever happen to these Treasonous war criminals.
What happened about all the other false flag attacks that this country has pulled off? Absolutely nothing, everyone of the culprits skate away scott free.
It is up to "We the People" and there is WAY MORE than enough of us that know what is happening to take this country back and we get organized could do it in a 3 day weekend.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 06:40 AM
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11. It started with 12/12
Dec 12, 2000 - If you can steal a Presidential Election, you can get away with ANYTHING. THey felt that a majority of the Supreme Court would make any ruling they needed, regardless of the law, to retain power and preserve secrecy.

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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 06:41 AM
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12. The month long election night that never ended.
I knew America was over when it took a month to 'decide' who won.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 08:19 AM
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21. 12/12/2000 The day our democracy died n/t
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 07:15 AM
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13. It worked out quite well for them, didn't it?
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 07:26 AM
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14. This is truly the Question of our Age.
This is what the historians will try to explain. This is what future Americans will struggle to understand.

"We have read about the awful lies of the Bush-Cheney administration, their endless corruption, their repeated breaking of American and international law," they will say, "but why were they allowed to continue doing these things even after everyone knew they were doing them? Why did the American public collectively give Bush, Cheney, and the numerous other criminals in the administration a free pass? Was everyone so terrified after 9/11 that they instantly surrendered all of their freedoms and values to an authoritarian regime as they quaked in fear?"

"What happened," they will ask, "to the land of the free and the home of the brave? When did it become the land of the chained and the home of the frightened cowards?"

And what is our answer?
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 07:30 AM
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15. How was the spectacular failure (or worse) turned into a pillar of strength?
The Terrorist Regime in DC has gotten away with so much because the plutocratic class has worked very hard over the history of the nation to take over the apparatus of control from which they dominate the people.

They will never release control to the people but merely give them a paucity of choices from which the controllers can continue to exert their dominance.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 07:53 AM
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16. You seem to forget the first nine months of their term.
They steamrolled over the Democrats right from the very beginning without even a whimper from them. Bartcop accused the Democrats of wearing pink tutus right from the very first day when the Senate refused to address the Black caucus over the election. Hasn't really changed a lot either. Bold talk from Democrats but no follow up. How many ignored subpoenas does it take?
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 08:05 AM
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17. Unfortunately I remember.
Selection night. james baker. The Supremes, and the repubs marched so smartly down to the senate floor with their little articles of impeachment against the last legally elected president. I am increasingly disappointed in the D's, sad to say.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 08:09 AM
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18. Those who haven't been bought have been blackmailed..
that's my theory.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 08:12 AM
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19. Some even threatened with death. (anthrax murder letters)
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 08:25 AM
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22. No, it's not.
The corporate agenda is why they get away with it all.
It's why they got away with 9/11
The corporate agenda is why the corporate media won't tell the truth about... well... anything.
The corporate agenda is simply to privatize everything on the planet, and cause a swath of destruction so that everything drops in value. That way, those left with money can buy up everything at firesale prices.
There are corporatists on "both sides of the aisle."
That's why nothing is going to change.

What can you/I/we do about it?

Stop using your credit cards.
Stop borrowing their money to buy things that you probably don't need anyway.
Stop paying interest.
That's how wealth is created, and it goes straight to the top.
Stop burning fossil fuels. That's evolution's gift to us, and if we burn it, it's gone forever.
Stop giving your money to companies that use their profits against us.
Pay attention to what you buy and who you buy it from.
It may be difficult, but it's worth it in the long run!
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 08:27 AM
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23. No
It's because we have a large proportion of our country that believes the Constitution means they are supposed to get whatever they want. They've been out of power for a long time and they are enjoying the vilifying of anyone who isn't a bully.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 08:50 AM
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24. No. Lack of media scrutiny. nt
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 11:30 AM
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25. ??????????
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 11:33 AM
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26. That and the easy use of it by politicians.
They can use it for all sorts of stuff including funds into their states for "security". Politics can literally be a bloodsport of sorts.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 04:09 AM
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27. ...........
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 07:40 PM
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28. .
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 07:56 AM
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29. (.)
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 08:26 AM
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31. Well of course it is! 911 changed everything! Shock and Awe!
Edited on Sun May-20-07 08:28 AM by wildbilln864
and all that shit, remember!
You're with us or against us! The "new catalyzing Pearl Harbor event"! :wtf:

:banghead:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 08:35 AM
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32. 9-11 is why the CORPORATE NEWS MEDIA came out of the closet as fulltime propagandists
for their fascist masters - and THAT is why BushInc has been allowed to get away with so much.


The Democrats who tried hardest to oppose them were targeted heavily by the media. It took a category five HURRICANE to strip off a large chunk of the teflon that had only started to be chipped away during the 2004 debates and then Schiavo.
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