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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 03:44 PM
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The Ghost of George Wallace
“There is a backlash against big government in this country. This is a movement of the people, and it doesn't make any difference whether the leading politicians endorse it or not. (It is made of the) average man in the streets ...this man in the textile mill, this man in the steel mill, the barber, the beautician, the policeman on the street, the little businessman. They are the ones. Those are the mass of people that are going to support a change in the domestic scene in this country. If the politicians get in the way of this movement, a lot of them are going to get run over.”

That quote could be confused as something said two nights ago in America, after some of the Tea Bag candidates were victorious in their republican primaries. In fact, it would not surprise me if Sarah Palin's speech-writers had included it in one of her recent public utterances. However, older members of this forum will recognize it as coming from former Alabama governor George Wallace. It's from his April 23, 1967 appearance on NBC's “Face the Nation,” when he announced his intentions to run in the upcoming presidential race.

Younger folks may not be familiar with Wallace, beyond his infamous positions on desegregation and his being shot in 1972. There is a tendency for him to be considered a footnote in history, a loser of little consequence. Yet, in the 1960s and early '70s, Wallace was viewed as the most influential loser in politics.

Wallace had announced plans to challenge President Kennedy in the 1964 democratic primary. At the time, most people believed that Wallace's goal was to weaken Kennedy in the south, making it more likely the President would lose in his re-election bid. This was, of course, the roots of what Nixon would use as his “southern strategy” in 1968.

After Dallas, Wallace remained intent upon damaging the Democratic Party's liberal wing. He ran in primaries in Indiana, Maryland, and Wisconsin, and took a third of the vote in each. However, due to lack of funding, he was unable to carry on his struggle.

Wallace was every bit the cheap opportunist that Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin are today. He knew that he couldn't compete well in the democratic primaries (which were far less in number than they are today), and so he created the American Independent Party. The AIP was, without question, that generation's version of the Tea Party. It appealed to racism, anger, fear, and the “us versus them” mentality that the radical right-wing of the Republican Party is spouting today.

In 1968, the democrats in Washington, DC, believed that Wallace would appeal to a group that was largely limited to the right-wing of the Republican Party. As Hampton Sides points out in his recent book on the stalking of Martin Luther King, Jr., the democratic “leaders” joked that Wallace was so filled with bile, that if he punched himself, he would get blood poisoning. Although that was both funny and accurate, they were underestimating the power of fear and hatred in America.

Not long ago on this forum, I read a discussion about Wallace's impact on the 1968 election. Some folks were surprised to hear that, after Robert Kennedy's death, a number of democrats who supported the New York Senator refused to vote for VP Humphrey. In fact, a small but important number of them ended up voting for Wallace.

On the surface, that may sound absolutely foolish today. We tend to remember RFK's primary run as perhaps the most serious progressive politician's attempt to secure the party's nomination for President. However, Kennedy appealed to a group much wider than the democratic left. Even in the primaries, he had the support of quite a few moderate and conservative democrats, and it is safe to say that if he ran against Nixon, RFK would have won votes from both independent and liberal republicans.

But when the race was between Humphrey and Nixon, a surprising percentage of moderate and conservative democrats viewed the contest as between a political weakling and a shady crook. (Wallace famously said, “There's not a dime's worth of difference” between the two parties as the election approached.) In truth, they were correct. Where a rational person might disagree with them, however, was in their decision to cast a protest vote for Wallace.

Liberal and progressive democrats, however, did not consider a vote for Wallace as an option. Not only was he representative of what they believed was horribly wrong with American politics, but his running mate was General Curtis LeMay, one of the most amoral, delusional and violent beings in our nation's history.

With LeMay on board, the notorious Hunt family began financing the Wallace campaign. Their ticket got 10 million votes (13.5% of the total), won five southern states, and ended up with 46 electoral votes. This was significant enough that in 1972, the Nixon Committee to Re-Elect the President (CREEP) viewed Wallace, along with Teddy Kennedy, as the two main threats to their candidate.

Wallace's influence was not limited to the voting booth, however. Also important was that his appeals to his often unstable supporters often encouraged cowardly acts of violence. We heard that same thing from the crowds surrounding Palin in 2008, and we hear it today from the followers of Glenn Beck.

Now: I've said all that, to say this – fully aware that even my wife and children view me as an old man who is prone to prattle about the ancient history of his youth – that there are lessons from history here that we should be applying to the current situation. And it's not just that I want to talk to the younger members of the democratic left. Rather, this is intended for those friends here who tend to be more moderate. I think they are convinced that they are more realistic and more practical in their advocating full support for the entire democratic ticket, and I am willing to grant that in some senses, they are correct.

But I want them to at very least consider what I've wrote here, and what our friends on the democratic left have been saying all along. We all are facing some degree of threat from the unsettling social influence of the right-wing republican extremists. It's all of us. It's women, both in their own home and in public. It's men who are looking for a job. It's the abortion doctor. It's those citizens concerned about what poisons are getting into their drinking water (I note that many of the “pro- frack drilling” folks around here are members of the Tea Party). It's all of us who were/are opposed to the Bush/Cheney foreign policy.

Wallace used to say that he wasn't a racist; he was just against those black people who refused to work. He said he didn't hate young people; just those who protested the war in Vietnam, or who refused to cut their hair or “use soap.” He thought that he was subtle when he was on a big stage, but he didn't bother when he spoke to small groups of his own kind. Sound familiar? Palin and Beck are the same.

No one in the Democratic Party is saying that we need to appeal to the types of people from Wallace's American Independent Party, or the current version, the Tea Bag Party. But the actions of far too many of the “leaders” in Washington, DC, seem to clearly be attempts to keep the support of those moderate to conservative democrats who, in 1968, ended up voting for Wallace. And without question, this is done without regard to those in the democratic left.

Our party should be able to use that Tea Party business to divide and then trash the Republican Party. To do so, we need to have our politicians show our stances as strong and for the best interests of the American people – especially the middle class right now.

There was a time when Hubert Humphrey was a good liberal. He was big on Civil Rights. That Humphrey would point out that while Beck et al say they aren't racists, that one of their biggest focuses is on doing away with the part of the US Constitution that let's brown-skinned children born in the United States to attend public schools (among other rights of citizenship). That Humphrey would point out that they are no different than George Wallace when he attempted to keep black children out of white schools. They need some type of moral soap to wash that racist filth off, and it is high time that the Democratic Party starts producing and applying that lather.

When Humphrey turned his back on liberalism (and his most loyal long-time supporters), and willingly cloaked himself in LBJ's war policies, he lost. It's a lesson that moderate and conservative democrats need to understand.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 03:48 PM
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1. Thank you for connecting two very important dots: AIP -> Teabagger Party
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 06:51 AM
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31. They are the same
thing, in different eras.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 09:07 AM
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37. As I have written the Tea-baggers remind me of a Southern Lynch Mob.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 03:56 PM
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2. "They need some type of moral soap to wash that racist filth off, and it is high time that the
Edited on Thu Sep-16-10 04:01 PM by blondeatlast
Democratic Party starts producing and applying that lather." I think americans are crying out for that cleansing and the ReBPublicans aren't bringing any hope of it.

Amen--and I believe they are recognizing this--but they need to satrt showing it to the public.


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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 06:55 AM
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32. The governors race
in my state (New York) highlights what happens when a petty crook seeks to exploit the anxiety and hostility of the general public. The Tea/republican is a hoodlum. I'm not going to pretend the democratic candidate is perfect (I did think very highly of his father), but I'm definitely going to work hard to get him elected.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 04:28 PM
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3. Wallace reformed,,, these hacks never will.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 09:10 AM
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38. The evil that he did lives and thrives. Fuck Wallace. I hope he burns in hell.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 04:31 PM
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4. Great post Water man
:hi:
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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 04:54 PM
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5. Not at all to excuse the old pol, but......
In 1979, as blacks began voting in large numbers in Alabama, Wallace said of his stand in the schoolhouse door: "I was wrong. Those days are over and they ought to be over." I remember election of '68 When it was George Corley Wallace "Stand Up For America", and how racist it was. '68 was fucked up but all the bad shit was a catalyst for change. The old , wounded, paralyzed SOB did change though. Isn't that what we wanted? Goddamn is this great country or what? He changed, I changed, the South changed. Beck may have sheep looking up supporters in the South but he is not representative of it. I have no dispute with your post other than the non reporting of the end of his life. He was a high water mark of racism that changed. I am glad he did. ...... The Wallace /Curtis LeMay ticket seems movie like now. .. Peace, Richard
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 04:57 PM
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6. He had the courage to change... after being such a dickhead
I also like the rest of the OP too
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 06:45 PM
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 07:05 PM
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13. Gross.
It's repulsive to see anyone on this forum say that it is too bad Wallace didn't win in '72.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 07:12 PM
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15. +1 and then some. nt
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 09:05 PM
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21. My pic is somewhere on this site, RB.
Edited on Thu Sep-16-10 09:19 PM by blondeatlast
But I'm straight, sorry.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 11:36 PM
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29. No. we won't. Never. nt
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 09:17 PM
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22. Yes, you said it.
Read your own post. Then go shit in Alaska.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 10:38 PM
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26. clown exposed.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 07:20 PM
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16. I regret that he wasn't shot 20 years earlier
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 07:03 PM
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11. When King was
interviewed in Playboy magazine, he noted that Wallace probably didn't believe half the hateful things that he said about black people. A number of people familiar with him were of this opinion. Thus, as King noted, it made Wallace the most dangerous racist in America.

I didn't include anything about his change later in life, simply because it has no relationship to the OP. It came long, long, long after it was meaningful in any political sense. While it was of some significance in Wallace's personal life, it in no way countered all of the damage that he consciously and purposely did in the vast majority of his political career.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 06:03 PM
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58. Too little too late! How true. n/t
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 05:35 PM
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7. K&R. Thanks for this important post.
You've done an incredible job of detailing how we're doomed to repeat our not-too-distant history--unless we do a better job of teaching young people about this era of our country's past, helping them understand the context that allowed these bigots to come to power, and showing them what we can do to ensure that liberal policies trump party politics.

:yourock:
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 06:15 PM
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8. K&R
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 07:01 PM
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10. Great post.
Thank you for the well reasoned appeal to hang together here. We need to vote for the Dems this fall. We can't fall apart now.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 07:03 PM
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12. did you know -
George Wallace was the first judge to sentence a white man to death for killing a black man?

I grew up in Alabama and it was said that GW really wasn't a "racist" - that he was actually a "good friend" to African Americans, but that his political aspirations - and his "commitment" to his majority constituents "required" his stance against integration.

I'm not supporting him in any way shape or form, just passing on interesting bits of trivia that I picked up as a kid in AL.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 07:07 PM
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14. I am aware
that as a judge, Wallace was considered "liberal" by his state's standards. He was also a good amateur boxer. Neither of these make any difference as far as the terrible things he did as a politician.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 07:25 PM
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17. Excellent post H2O
Always something to learn from history. And I do so enjoy your take on issues.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 09:01 PM
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20. k&r excellent
wallace was a scourge as is palin
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 09:41 PM
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23. K&R from a moderate Democrat around here
I don't know how I missed this very obvious comparison between the teabaggers and the AIP. For all practical purposes, they are one and the same.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 10:14 PM
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24. George Wallace personally sought to be running mates for both Goldwater in 64 and McGovern in 72
Edited on Thu Sep-16-10 10:54 PM by Douglas Carpenter


To say he was an opportunist would be the understatement of the year.

The offer to Barry Goldwater to be his V.P. candidate is documented in Rick Perlstein's book, Before the Storm: Barry Goldwater and the Unmaking of the American Consensus - Amazon link:

http://www.amazon.com/Before-Storm-Goldwater-Unmaking-Consensus/dp/1568584121?SubscriptionId=0TBPMRS0W3G0CB5F0902&tag=afncaie-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=1568584121

The offer to George McGovern to be his running mate is documented in Gary Hart's book, Right from the start;: A chronicle of the McGovern campaign - Amazon link:

http://www.amazon.com/Right-start-chronicle-McGovern-campaign/dp/0812903722?SubscriptionId=0TBPMRS0W3G0CB5F0902&tag=afncaie-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=0812903722

But what George Wallace really did that had real lasting effect on American political culture was establishing a market for white right-wing, working class populism. Before George Wallace, New Deal Democrats pretty much held the monopoly in America on working class populism. The conservative movement was almost openly and unapologetically elitist. The right-wing movement barely even attempted to hide its alliance with the rich and the powerful. The Wallace campaign especially in 1968 demonstrated that there is a market for angry white working class resentment rapped in language that redirected the language of class struggle toward resentment against the poor, minorities, intellectuals and liberal elitist.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 11:40 PM
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30. k&r
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 07:17 AM
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33. The Independent Party,
Isn't that the same party that Bernie Sanders belongs to? I think Bernie is one of the few "good guys", even though he has had to compromise a few of his principles for "politics."
I think that Bernie is one of our most capable and progressive leaders.
I'm not sure if the old Independent party is the same Independent party that Sanders belongs to, if it is, then it has come a long way.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 08:04 AM
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35. No.
Not the same at all.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 09:15 AM
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39. Absolutely not. It is the very antithesis of Wallace's pack of racists.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:47 AM
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47. Bernie is a socialist.
Like me! :hi:
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 07:54 AM
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34. K & R
Need I say more?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 08:05 AM
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36. Yes.
Please do.

I am thinking it's only a matter of time until someone posts something about what a nice guy General LeMay really was.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 09:21 AM
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40. Well, the Wallace fan club's pizza has finally arrived, at least.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:37 AM
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43. Well You Asked For it
I've often wondered why people vote against their best/self interest. Some put it down to ignorance or stupidity. I think FDR had it right when he spoke about fear itself being the only thing we have to fear. Big fears, little ones, fears that aren't understandable but nevertheless present. Lying in wait to catch you by the throat or punch you in the stomach, often for unconscious reasons. Fear that others have more than me, do better than me, will take what I have. That I will have to follow your religion and not mine. That you will come into my home/country and hurt me. Fear's offspring is hate and of late there has been an abundance of progeny.

In spite of current evidence to the contrary life progresses in a positive way and there is nothing you can do to stop it. In fact the contrast provided by hate pushes it forward because at the end of the day hate doesn't feel good, it eats you up and people begin to look for something else. But it's incremental and people who are desperate for relief think it will never come but Martin had it right when he spoke of the moral arc of the universe. It's fully operational and will have its way. But we could, if we so choose, help it along and that's the choice that faces us. Heal or hurt.

I look at you all see the love there that's sleeping
While my guitar gently weeps
I look at the floor and I see it need sweeping
Still my guitar gently weeps

I don't know why nobody told you
how to unfold your love
I don't know how someone controlled you
they bought and sold you

I look at the world and I notice it's turning
While my guitar gently weeps
With every mistake we must surely be learning
Still my guitar gently weeps

I don't know how you were diverted
you were perverted too
I don't know how you were inverted
no one alerted you

I look at you all see the love there that's sleeping
While my guitar gently weeps
I look at you all
Still my guitar gently weeps

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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 12:00 PM
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49. I'm glad he asked for it.
I love that song! Thanks Me., you put a smile on my face today!
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 12:00 PM
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50. I'm glad he asked for it.
I love that song! Thanks Me., you put a smile on my face today!
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 09:22 AM
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41. So what you are saying, is that the Moderate Centirst Democrats
gave votes to Wallace. Of course they did, 'moderates' are just a hair away from being Republicans anyway, most of them are not Republicans because they have a trait or habit that is not received well among the Tea.O.P. But they are Republicans in every real sense of the word. In fact, many 'moderate' Democrats are more right wing than actual Republicans, in my book. Frothing bigotry, and a willingness to put up with Wallace simulacrums in the lexicon used against today's chosen 'other' the GLBT community. Let's remember Obama's use of McClurkin, who makes Wallace seem soft spoken and kindly. Let us never forget that.
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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 09:53 AM
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42. H20 man
I always enjoy your posts. I'm thinking that the racists in the US will never be able to be a viable party. Even with MSM blackout of everybody but them. Obama's election says a lot more about race relations than anything that has happened in a long time.

My thinking, even though the KKK was a viable party, it was before the internet. As MSM goes down the tubes, TV and print news is increasingly boring, the internet will continue to rise in popularity.I used to really enjoy the NY Times and 6 o'clock news. After the 2000 election, something did not pass the smell test for me. Only then, could I afford a computer. It has changed my view of so much.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:39 AM
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44. Know what, H20 Man?
When I see something you`ve written, I automatically click on it. Why? Because I know for certain whatever you say will be reasoned,thought-provoking and based on age-old principles. Thank you from the bottom of my old, liberal heart.

Lathered up and ready to go.......
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:43 AM
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45. +1
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:40 PM
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54. +2
I'm not ashamed to admit I'm a fan, too. :D
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gademocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:42 AM
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46. K&R
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:55 AM
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48. Thanks. I always appreciate your historical insight.
I really wasn't too familiar with AIP. I knew about George Wallace's political runs during the 60's and 70's, but I didn't know too much about the organization backing him. Your mention of the Hunt family bankrolling the campaign reminded me of a scene in Oliver Stone's Nixon where Larry Hagman is playing a character who I believe is supposed to represent Hunt. He's never specifically identified by name, but when he implies that he will not financially support Nixon in his re-election bid, Nixon tells him he can go support Wallace and by doing so, put America in the hands of that "pansy socialist poet" McGovern. Fictional scene, of course, but very evocative of how divided things were then. And didn't Howard Hunt (no relation to the Hunt family, I believe) try to plant literature in Arthur Bremer's room showing that he was a Communist? I'm pretty sure that attempt wasn't fictional.

Thanks again for writing this, you inspired me to look deeper into AIP, and you're right, there is definitely a historical parallel with them and the Baggers. Sometimes even the names don't change. In 1972, AIP fielded John Schmitz as their candidate for President. Son Joseph is a former executive with Blackwater. I'm not certain if Joseph has publicly stated his support for Tea Baggers but both father and son are Catholics who happen to be Christian fundamentalists. There is a lot of common ground between AIP and Tea Baggers, but I believe it is the End Times theo-conservative shared traits that have the greatest potential for danger to this country.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 12:53 PM
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51. It's time to define what it means to be a Democrat.
For starters:

1. Justice - Equal under the law and no one above the law, including ex-pretzeldents.
2. Equality - All people -- not corporations and not dollars -- 18 and over have one vote each.
3. Power - The powers of government are to be used to make life better for all Americans.

Oh, and the racists and fascists belong in the scrap heap. I'd toss in the corporatists, too.

As always: Truly a great post in every way, H20 Man.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:14 PM
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52. Another lesson is that the Tea Bag Party is gathering steam and WILL have an impact
The 25 - 35% of American people who gravitate towards this kind of politics have found their niche (again) within a structured political party (cough).

We dismiss the Palins, Becks, O'Donnells, Bachmans etc. etc. at our peril.

They've already built up credibility (and $) by being able to boost their candidates in more than a few national level campaigns and they have the Koch brothers (vs. the Hunts).

Obama isn't helping any of this by dissing the liberal left. He needs us more than ever as the Tea Baggers have their moment on the historical timeline of politics. Yes, he needs to court the middle class and strengthen it but I fear he's coming too late to the realization and will lose the Senate (and House?) in November. That defeat will truly embolden the Tea Baggers just like it did Wallace and the AIP.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 03:27 PM
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56. They don't need credibility!! All they need is the knowledge
that WE, AS A PARTY, are dissatisfied and angered enough to NOT VOTE in November, which means, NO LANDSLIDE and the "fix" IS ON!! Sorry to say, but it's a wrap! They're fixing this shit as we speak!!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:15 PM
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53. As usual, you're right.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 02:00 PM
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55. President Obama, bless his soul, responded to the desperation
of the bankers on Wall Street and the threats of his Republican and conservative Democratic opposition -- but he did not respond to the frustration and anger of the American people -- the American middle class in particular.

That was an obvious mistake.

Now that Obama has appointed Elizabeth Warren, he should let her speak to that anger and frustration. He needs to tell his banker friends that they have been rescued, they are in good shape, and now -- they need to shape up or ship out.

There is a new game in town -- provided the President is willing to play it.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 05:31 PM
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57. Too late to recommend this
And I hate when that happens because you almost always write about something that interest me or something I know about.
And I was in the south when Wallace was running and know exactly what you mean.
It really is the same shit all over again...this time it is dressed in a skirt or has a chalk board, but it is the same fear mongering and racism.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 11:50 AM
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59. Excellent. Thank you.
I want to see more forthright declaration of democratic values too.

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