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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:36 AM
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Worst Photo Yet From BP's Crime?
Edited on Fri Sep-17-10 01:53 AM by Hissyspit
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100914/od_yblog_upshot/massive-fish-kill-reported-in-louisiana

Tue Sep 14, 12:36 pm ET
Massive fish kill reported in Louisiana
By Brett Michael Dykes



What you see above isn't a rural gravel road. It's a Louisiana waterway, its surface completely covered with dead sea life -- a mishmash of species of fish, crabs, stingray and eel. New Orleans CBS affiliate WWL-TV reports that even a whale was found dead in the area, a stretch of coastal Louisiana hit hard this summer by oil from BP's busted Gulf well.

Fish kills are fairly common along the Gulf Coast, particularly during the summer in the area near the mouth of the Mississippi, the site of this kill. The area is rife with dead zones -- stretches where sudden oxygen depletion can cause widespread death. But those kills tend to be limited to a single species of fish, rather than the broad sort of die-off involved in this kill.

And therein lies the concern of Gulf residents, who suspect this may be yet another side effect of the catastrophic BP oil spill.

Plaquemines Parish President Billy Nungesser sounded the alarm bells Monday, distributing the photos here to the local media. Nungesser said that no testing is currently planned to determine how the kill may relate to the BP oil disaster, but he pleaded with officials from the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries, the Environmental Protection Agency and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to investigate.

CLOSE-UP PHOTO AT LINK

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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:45 AM
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1. K and R
the felony criminals walk away scot free.

the Obama "justice" department isn't going to do a damn thing

the subpoena power for investigation didn't get past the senate either.

the biggest environmental crime in human history, and it's not even in the news anymore
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:49 AM
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2. I figure it was extreamist that are responsible.
Edited on Fri Sep-17-10 01:51 AM by RandomThoughts
Either legislative extremist, or population control extremist, or even other types of extremist.


:shrug:


Either way, either the media reports of the event are incorrect, or the system is completely messed up based on reports of the clean up and spraying of dispersal chemicals, and the timing of the event itself.


People should not be scared though, there are not many of those people, they are just willing to kill people without thought or feeling. When they do, it creates a downward spiral, and they are removed, so really either way things work out better.



Side note, I am still due money for beer and travel, and many good experiences, and the lack of correction on that proves many things about many systems. And allows for many thoughts.
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:58 AM
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3. It's Ongoing
they are still spraying Corexit through contractors, they are spraying until the end of Sept.

the "firing" of Hayward is just a distraction, it's business as usual
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 02:58 AM
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6. If Corexit is bad for the enviroment.
Then the only way that can happen is through secret Hiarical structure, with authoritarian followship.


If it is true, they would need a small group willing to hurt that area, then many people not willing to question them and only follow orders, or believe in what they are doing.


So if it is true they are still doing it, and if it is dangerous, then it is allowed by system structure.


If it is not dangerous, then articles on investigations by different non central organizations like colleges, would be on the news. The form of peer review.


So really the biggest thing to help society is removing secrecy by transparency, and many groups instead of a centralized system of any control like consolidations of corporate interest, or governmental or private sector groups that act in secrecy.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 05:07 AM
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7. yet god forbid someone like me get caught
harvesting a few meeger plants out in the woods.....
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 09:53 AM
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13. leave it to DU to bring growing dope into a BP thread...
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 12:17 PM
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16. It's not a BP thread
Just a lame excuse for one. The fish kill was caused by fish trapped in shallow water left behind after the tide receeded.

Its happened before for the same reason so presumably that was BP having practice runs. :sarcasm:
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 08:39 PM
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19. Did you read the article?
The kind of kill you're referring to usually only affects a single species of fish, not the wide variety of sea life witnessed in this kill.

And it's not like industry hasn't been using the using the GoM as an industrial dumping ground for decades - so earlier spills could have indeed resulted from petroleum-based contamination. The well hasn't stopped issuing oil since the initial explosion back in April. None of the caps have fully worked. So corexit or oil, either way, this the magnitude of this kill indicates it's most likely connected to BP's activity in the Gulf.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 03:13 AM
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20. Yes of I course did
Edited on Sat Sep-18-10 03:20 AM by dipsydoodle
which is more than I believe most did here before rec'ing and you may not even have done so yourself.

The last para clearly states : UPDATE: The Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries investigated the fish kill and determined that it was the result of low oxygen levels caused by low tides and high temperatures.

See also reply #5 which summerised the date sequence of events here and also refers to the prior LBN post on the subject.

For a shortcut to later more accurate news use this : http://www.nola.com/weather/index.ssf/2010/09/plaquemines_fish_kill_is_unrel.html or this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1312450/Gulf-Mexico-fish-kill-discovered-culprit-think.html

What isn't clear from the "sensational" pictures is any sense of depth of the water. Those fish are actually in 2 feet of water. What do think their chances of survival were ?


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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 02:04 AM
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4. I can barely comprehend what I am seeing.
:cry:
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 02:53 AM
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5. Last para provides what was determined to be cause
Edited on Fri Sep-17-10 03:11 AM by dipsydoodle
UPDATE: The Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries investigated the fish kill and determined that it was the result of low oxygen levels caused by low tides and high temperatures.

The above report is dated 14th. The original report was 13th and the cause which was determined by the 16th was the point at which this post died in its tracks : http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=4540495 see post #102

...the area is bounded on one side by a rock dam, with a shallow pass to the Gulf of Mexico on the other.

When the tide is low, it becomes a pool. They had a low tide and all the fish got trapped in water less than 2 feet deep.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 05:15 AM
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8. Recommended. DUers, please go to the Yahoo link and see the closeup.
:kick:
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 09:29 AM
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9. Kick for the day crew.
:kick:
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 09:45 AM
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12. Good idea
Edited on Fri Sep-17-10 10:01 AM by dipsydoodle
That way they can confirm the issue which was unassociated with BP was actually caused by large shoals of fish being trapped in shallow water when the tide receeded.

It would however keep those happy who have a dead fish fetish.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 09:41 AM
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10. My God.
Horrible.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 09:44 AM
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11. k & r
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:18 AM
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14. Yep, that definitely *is* the "Worst Photo Yet From BP's Crime" ...
Edited on Fri Sep-17-10 11:27 AM by Nihil
... considering that it hasn't got anything to do with BP's crime at all ...

There just *HAVE* to be better photos of BP's crime somewhere that people
can use instead of this one ... because using this one makes the user look
like a completely ignorant dipstick who just wants to whine about BP ...

:eyes:
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:21 AM
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15. How is it related to the spill? Beyond vague reporting and suspicion.
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southmost Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 07:26 PM
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17. stupid media is just helping to cover it up
the Weather Channel just stated that the fish kills were unrelated to the BP spill, the fish died from oxygen depletion in the water...

WTF, if the oil and dispersant are killing the plankton (oxygen providers) and creating dead zones , then of course its related to the spill
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 08:24 PM
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18. oh gag! I can imagine the smell.
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