Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

This will scare the SH!T out of you

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:30 AM
Original message
This will scare the SH!T out of you
Found this on MSNBC web site:


Is Sarah Palin the next Barack Obama?
'History does not repeat itself,' said Mark Twain, 'but it does rhyme'

By Robert Schmuhl

When Sarah Palin takes the stage in Des Moines on Friday night to keynote the Iowa Republican Party's Reagan Dinner, she'll send the clearest signal so far that she can see the White House from her home in Wasilla, Alaska.

Video: Values Voter Summit
With C-SPAN planning live coverage of her speech (at 7 p.m. Central time), the former governor has a chance to woo not only Hawkeye voters who will be involved in the first nominating caucuses for 2012, but also a national audience curious about an intriguing figure's future.
For someone who tries to follow and make sense of American political trends, the now-probable run by Palin provokes some questions: Have we seen this movie before? Will the upcoming presidential campaign look strangely like the last one? Not to be impertinent or impolitic, could Sarah Palin be the next Barack Obama?

"History does not repeat itself," Mark Twain is often quoted as saying, "but it does rhyme." Look closely and the rhyme scheme for Palin and Obama is stunningly similar — despite their continent-spanning differences on issues and ideology.

Both figures emerged quickly on the national scene and used their considerable charisma to become media-magnified political celebrities.

Both were tapped to deliver major speeches at national party conventions — Obama's keynote address to Democrats in 2004 and Palin's acceptance of the GOP's vice-presidential nomination in 2008 — and in each case Americans at large took notice of their rhetorical abilities and other qualities.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39230166/ns/politics-politics_daily/


It goes on trying to make Palin the next Obama

:wtf:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:33 AM
Response to Original message
1. Too much sexism, still, in the US. Especially among the demographic she will court.
They like her as RW cheerleader, but they want a chief executive with a dick.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #1
4. VERY true. So many right wingers and Republicans were pissed off when McCain picked her. They voted
the ticket anyway, telling themselves they were voting for McCain, but if she tops a ticket, I think that would provoke or continue the split that's growing in that party.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:40 AM
Response to Reply #4
9. Agreed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:46 AM
Response to Reply #4
11. Actually
My fundy uncle & aunt voted for Ron Paul (they voted for Bush twice) because they felt Palin should be at home taking care of her children.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:33 AM
Response to Original message
2. Doesn't scare the shit out of me
It just tells me that MSNBC occasionally hires idiots.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:34 AM
Response to Original message
3. Obama IQ: triple digits. Palin: "I can see Russia from Alaska".
The next Obama, except for one minor detail. :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:39 AM
Response to Reply #3
7. Did you miss it???? Education and IQ are disqualifiers.
Come out from under that rock--just teasing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #3
21. Well you CAN see Russia from Alaska
if you're standing on Little Diomede Island, looking over at Big Diomede Island.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:36 AM
Response to Original message
5. People don't look for governance nowadays. They just want to vote for American Idol.
Weird thing is you would have thought the Internet and alternative media would have made the intellectual deficiency mode obvious but it actually allows the weird attraction to obfuscate it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:47 AM
Response to Reply #5
13. One thing to vote for American Idol, sadly another to be voting for American Idiot. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:38 AM
Response to Original message
6. Fluff piece from the drooling dittoheads at msnbc.
Sorry but one small problem presents itself with this line of reasoning - Obama has probably read a lot of Mark Twain, where as Sarah has no idea who he is (runs the train station down on 13th street?) and never will.

And when Sarah gives her speeches they end up being (sometimes) a flop or she exposes her stupidity on her hand. Obama hasn't acted like an idiot, publicly, that I have seen in any speech given. Obama also has a very sophisticated lexicon that just cannot be taught to Sarah no matter how many times she reads the teleprompter. 'Donchaknow' is not presidential material and never will be.

Sorry, but Quitter Sarah has nothing on President Obama. They ain't even in the same league.

It is like comparing George W. Bush to Richard M. Nixon.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:39 AM
Response to Original message
8. Now there's a real head-shaker. Palin the next Obama?
How odd that Schmulhl (not a name I'm familiar with I must admit) makes this comparison when the Love Palin types hate Obama so very much. I'd think they'd want Palin to be anything but like Obama. Go figure...

WTF indeed!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:42 AM
Response to Original message
10. When did Obama quit right in the middle of his public service?
They are not even in the same ball park. Obama can tell you what newspapers and magazines he reads. He also knows History and can demonstrate competence. Like I say, not even in the same ball park..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:47 AM
Response to Original message
12. Yeah, and my haircut is similar to Obama's
I'll start packing now!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:55 AM
Response to Original message
14. Justin Bieber the next Michael Jackson?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 10:56 AM
Response to Original message
15. Do they mean if she had an education, a record of competence, an ability to empathize...
... and command of the English language?

Yes, once she gets all of those things, she might bear comparison to President Obama. But if she did, she wouldn't be a Republican anymore.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Spike89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:00 AM
Response to Original message
16. Aside from the whole competency issue...
The circumstances are incredibly different. Obama was coming in on the heels of a tired and failed 2-term presidency with the repugs totally discredited. Palin faces an incumbent president from a party that still has a real advantage over the repugs. IF they were equal, Obama would still win easily with his advantages. They are NOT even close to equal.
If the repugs have a chance, they would have to nominate either a left-leaning "centrist" (or at least someone they can package as such) or a total cypher that doesn't have a record and thus can be whatever voters are looking for. Palin won't even come close to the nomination.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:01 AM
Response to Original message
17. Wow. That's a leap. So let me see if this works.
I'm the next Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

Hey, I SAID it, so it must be true!

Except I'm not 7'2", I can't sky hook, and Bill Clinton was president the last time I played basketball.

SarUH Palin doesn't seem to get that leaders don't quit when shit gets hard.

SarUH Palin's voting block doesn't seem to get that you cannot just be enamored with the idea of John Wayne or Barbie as president. It's a far more difficult position than that. It requires diplomacy, intelligence and an open mind. It requires foresight, learning from mistakes and improvement. It demands that one can tackle the challenges that our world faces on a daily basis.

These are all qualities that someone like SarUH could never possess. She's a mere entertainer. She chickens out when things get tough. She didn't want to do an actual debate against Joe Biden . . . what's going to happen when she's up against a master? She's nothing but a folksy cornpone, tell-the-hoi-polloi-what-they-want-to-hear spokesperson.

America already HAD a "leader" like this. Look where it got us.

I've always said America is going to pay a grave price for being sloooooooow learners. If a fraud like SarUH is elected to the highest office . . . is the nail now in the proverbial coffin?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:12 AM
Response to Original message
18. The good ol' "values voters"....words fail me....nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:33 AM
Response to Original message
19. I think we are witnessing
social engineering and manufacture of consent at its finest.

The focus tends to be on the results, i.e., the people who fall for it and the overall impact and mass effect. I think that is similar to how the Class War is fought and won since the tendency is to look up to the wealthy and down on the poor when it is clear that one group has the power to create and control and the other group tends to suffer the results of subjugation.

When you look at the Simulation machine and how people are both plugged into it, (as if it were a legitimate forum for our needs and concerns) and effected as a body politic by it, then it can become more clear the direction in which the manipulation flows and from whom. We could spend less time being flabbergasted by the glimmering spectacle -- acting so confounded and dismayed by those who fall for it most -- and put the spotlight on the movers and shakers pulling the levers and pushing the buttons that bring us this unmitigated bullshit.

The methodology is a science and the media, political instruments, think tanks and even the philanthropic foundations are shaping the results quite effectively. Meanwhile, little attention is given to this highly influential, cultural mechanism. It has never been about the Great Oz Head and those behind the curtain have reinforced it brilliantly and effectively with cunning and precision. It is difficult to find amidst the sound and the furry of a whirling, churning, 24/7, reality-shaping Carnival of Influences.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 12:25 PM
Response to Original message
20. What a steaming pile.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
disillusioned73 Donating Member (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 12:30 PM
Response to Original message
22. We should be afraid...
but not for the "reasons" the MSM gives us. But for the sole reason the corporate controled media will push for her nomination........ it will become a bigger horse race than Obama vs. Clinton. And IF she is able to become the nominee - all bets are off, and as entertaining and hilarious as it would be to watch from a liberal/progressive standpoint.. I dont think the risk of the ignorant in this country putting her in office is really worth the entertainment value.

I no longer click on stories about this women, whenever I see her name in the title I just move on. So you got me on this one..It's exausting avoiding it though - even here on DU we get flooded with this continuous obsession of covering her every tweet.... is anyone else tired of it??? Or am I in the minority??:think:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 03:43 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC