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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 11:53 AM
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Wouldn't a bruising Warren confirmation hearing have been a plus?
Edited on Fri Sep-17-10 12:18 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
I haven't had much to say about the whole Warren thing all along. The current appointment plan is doubtless clever or worthwhile or whatever, and that's cool.

My question is, why was a Senate confirmation so feared in the first place?

Is there some personal scandal/problem about her or is the opposition all about her views?

If the later, spending a few days airing those views on TV would, or should, be a big plus.

I would like to see some appointee given a bully pulpit from which to air populist views from a Democratic perspective.

And if she was defeated because she didn't love credit card banks enough then what's the loss?

Back to square one and appoint her exactly as she's being appointed now.
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 12:01 PM
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1. I think they would have had to clear that with Joe Lieberman, like the health care reform.
Additionally, hiring and firing decisions must go through Fox News as well.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 12:13 PM
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2. Why have a "bruising Warren confirmation hearing" that would...
stall the building of the agency when doing an end-run around the 'just say no' republicans and any Dems who might oppose her nomination starts the building of the agency by the woman who envisioned it by putting her in charge immediately.

I guess it depends on whether one is more interested in the politics of it than the crucial need for the agency to be up and running as soon as possible in order to implement the changes the agency will have the power to do.

I think getting it up and running beats playing politics with it is the right thing to do.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 12:15 PM
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3. With this media doing the reporting??????????
Edited on Fri Sep-17-10 12:16 PM by FrenchieCat
Oh hell the F*ck No!

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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 12:17 PM
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4. True Dat
still, I hate the need to sneak around. Why is it so wrong to declare a strong position and stick with it? The only ones who would scream are our enemies in the corporate banking cartel (and their idiotic teahadist stooges)
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 12:25 PM
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7. We have a News propaganda system set up larger than the President's microphone.......
and believe you me, they will use it.

This isn't sneaking around, and to say such does a disservice to
the fact that outsmarting assholes is more effective and important than
playing their game when we are the ones with the obvious disavantage.

Just turn to the news, and see what they do.
Then think about what a "fight" would accomplish.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 12:33 PM
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8. playing their game or calling them on it?
I hate that game, and I don't want to play it anymore. And getting an occasional strategic advance while being tied to the gameboard is not acceptable. Also, re sneaking, I am only using the terms our enemies would use to describe this perfectly fair and not sneaky at all finesse move. For gawd's sake sweep the game board aside and demand of those effers "what do you have that is constructive or helpful?" and hold them to it! They have nothing but bile, acid and destructiveness.

I'm just whistling through the graveyard. We would need an actual liberal (or even fair) media to do that. Thanks for letting me vent.

:luvya:
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 12:19 PM
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5. So she goes through the meat grinder
Edited on Fri Sep-17-10 12:21 PM by Uzybone
gets tarnished, insulted and rejected. And President Obama does the end around and appoints her anyway?

What would be the gain of that?

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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 01:11 PM
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11. Um... standing up to people who are WRONG
Kind of an interesting concept
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 12:21 PM
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6. There would have been no confirmation hearing.
Dodd didn't like her and would have killed her appointment in committee. Or, if he didn't, there's the ever present secret hold.

This was the way that we could get what we needed.

The political theater would have been stunning, though, wouldn't it?

This way, she gets to put her imprimatur on the agency and establish her creds. Maybe she'll head up the agency in future. I'm not certain of that. But at least she's able to do what needs to be done now.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 12:50 PM
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9. no.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 12:52 PM
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10. I heard that it was more that the Senate could keep it in limbo for a long time
so this way she's able to hit the ground running now.

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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-10 04:02 PM
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12. Nominees generally STFU ahead of confirmation.
This way she's on board and ready to go now.

There wouldn't have been hearings even--just inaction.

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