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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 10:52 AM
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Internet radio needs your help! It is in immediate danger!!
Edited on Fri May-18-07 11:16 AM by Breeze54
The SaveNetRadio Coalition

http://www.savenetradio.org/

The future of Internet radio is in immediate danger.

Royalty rates for webcasters have been drastically increased by a recent ruling

and are due to go into effect on July 15 (retroactive to Jan 1, 2006!).

If the increased rates remain unchanged, the majority of webcasters will go bankrupt and silent on this date.

Internet radio needs your help!



The Internet Radio Equality Act has recently been introduced in both the
House (H.R. 2060) and Senate (S. 1353) to save the Internet radio industry.

Please call your senators and your representative to ask them to co-sponsor the Internet Radio Equality Act

>>>>--->>> http://www3.capwiz.com/saveinternetradio/issues/alert/?alertid=9738601">by clicking here!

And who submitted the bills? Sens. Brownback (R) and Wyden (D).
They want to save it Internet Radio from the Royalties increase from 300% to 1200% !!

Read about it here --> http://www.savenetradio.org/071510-wyden.pdf

Jazz Legends Join the SaveNetRadio Campaign and Call on Congress to Preserve Jazz on the Internet.
See photos from the event. http://www.savenetradio.org/photogallery-jazzfest.html

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Makes me wonder with Brownback onboard but it still would suck for internet radio to go silent!


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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 11:12 AM
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1. Create Your Own Broadcast - Live365
Live365

Create Your Own Broadcast

http://www.live365.com/index.live

About Us

With thousands of stations and more than 4 million listeners a month, Live365 is the world's largest Internet radio network.
The Company gives individuals and organizations a "voice" to be able to reach a global audience, while offering radio listeners
an unparalleled choice in music and other audio content. Through easy-to-use tools and services, anyone with a computer and
an Internet connection can create his or her own Internet radio station. As a result, Live365 offers the most diverse array
of high-quality radio available today, with thousands of stations spanning myriad genres and representing over 150 countries.

-------------------------------------

Who Gets Stung by Net Radio Royalties

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/may2007/tc20070515_798273.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index_technology

When the higher rates go into effect, the real losers will be independent artists, small stations—and music lovers....

More.....

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 12:48 PM
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15. I like that Live365 allows for dial up users to listen with FM 32 kbps
Here's a couple of good channels, imho!

Rock & Blues Xtreme

http://www.live365.com/stations/wschuit

DJ: wschuit Email this Broadcaster
Location: Bronx, NY, United States

♫ AC/DC...Rolling Stones..Led Zeppelin..ZZ Top..Sabbath..Stevie Ray Vaughan..
Deep Purple..Steppenwolf..Judas Priest..Sound Garden..Nirvana..Alice In Chains
..Pearl Jam..Stone Temple Pilots..Red Hot Chili Peppers..Nick Lowe..Dave Edmunds.♫

Rock, Modern Rock, Hard Rock
Editor's Pick



------------------------------------------

This one's good too but you need DSL.


Radio Vietnam

http://www.live365.com/stations/wanderlust2k3

Classic Rock, Rock, Oldies
Editor's Pick

DJ: Nix Email this Broadcaster
Location: Worthington, OH, United States

Your favorites from the Vietnam Era! All Day, Every Day!

---------------------------

METAL SHOP

http://www.live365.com/stations/metalshop1

metal, rock, hard rock FM 56k

--------------

They also have every kind of music available.





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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 10:45 PM
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28. Shoutcast & Icecast Are Good Directories As Well
I am not so crazy about Live365's firewalls. I've had some fellow "webcasters" who have had problems with access and accounts.

Shoutcast offers a great directory for virtually every Internet station streaming in MP3, Icecast features the new AACPlus audio that blows MP3 away.

Lots of great things to hear and explore with Internet Radio. The RIAA's tried before to ruin this medium (as the behest of the large corporate broadcast companies) and they'll fail again...the medium has expanded beyond what they can really control.

Power to the true voices of the people.

Cheers...and rock on

:toast:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 11:06 PM
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29. Right on!! Thanks
for the new links and the info!!



I think they'll fail dismally this time too!! ;)

"Power to the true voices of the people."

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 07:39 AM
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31. its 'oink' radio for me
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 07:47 AM
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32. A Great Station...
I first caught them on the radio when I was in San Francisco last summer.

There's a lot of great stations out there. I'd plug mine, but I'm more for helping others advance and develop theirs.

Cheers...
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 08:58 AM
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34. I HAVE to listen to this!! Thanks for the link!
:)
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 11:27 AM
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2. K & R
My days will certainly suck a lot harder without my Pandora music channels. :( Check out Pandora while you can, and call your Congress-critters! www.pandora.com Here is one of my Pandora stations that I created: http://www.pandora.com/?sc=sh47414944303286571


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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 11:33 AM
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3. Do you mean Pando?
Edited on Fri May-18-07 11:34 AM by Breeze54
Or Pandora?? Maybe they're the same company.

I'll check it out! Thanks!!

And I hear you on that! I like listening to Live365 too!
There are some pretty neat independent broadcasters there
with music that's hard to find on regular radio.

Thanks for the kick & R! ;)
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 11:39 AM
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4. I remember reading about this- The Music Genome Project
Edited on Fri May-18-07 11:41 AM by Breeze54
I wasn't sure what the purpose was and it was a long time ago.

What does that mean..."It will create a "station" with my choice of music?
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 11:47 AM
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7. It's great!

You can pick artist or song 'seeds' for your station. They have fairly complex algorithms that dissect the structure of the music. Your station will play songs that fit your parameters automatically. If you disagree with a choice, you can give that song a 'thumbs down' and it will never ever play it on your station again.

You can always ask Pandora why they chose a particular song to play. Here is what it says for the tune currently playing on my station "The Eclectic Greyness": "Based on what you've told us so far, we're playing this track because it features folk roots, acoustic sonority, demanding instrumental part writing, meandering melodic phrasing, and major key tonality."

Best of all, it's free, and has NO audible commercials. They do display banner ads embedded in their mini player, but they are totally non-obtrusive.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 11:51 AM
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10. That is sooo cool!
:) Kind of a music 'menu' ... a la carte!

My ex BIL was/is a professor of musical theory. Is that sort of the same idea?
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 11:56 AM
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11. exactly
This is from the Pandora FAQ:

For almost seven years now, we have been hard at work on the Music Genome Project. It's the most comprehensive analysis of music ever undertaken. Together our team of fifty musician-analysts have been listening to music, one song at a time, studying and collecting literally hundreds of musical details on every song. It takes 20-30 minutes per song to capture all of the little details that give each recording its magical sound - melody, harmony, instrumentation, rhythm, vocals, lyrics ... and more - close to 400 attributes! We continue this work every day to keep up with the incredible flow of great new music coming from studios, stadiums and garages around the country.


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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 10:33 PM
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27. Would you like some original music to analyze?
;) I'll PM you!
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 11:48 AM
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8. Bummer! I need DSL! But I heard some of the tune
and it sounded great!! I'm getting DSL soon! ;)
I'll share it with my musician son! He'll love it!

http://blog.pandora.com/faq/

What type of Internet Connection do I need?

Pandora streams music at 128 kbps. You will need a broadband connection
(DSL or Cable) of at least 150 kbps to run Pandora. (Dial-up is not supported.)
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 11:42 AM
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5. kick.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 07:36 PM
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26. I want to apologize. I meant to
give you a Thank You and I (having dial up) kept freezing. No biggie. Storm here.

Soooo, Thank You for the kick! Much appreciated!
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 11:42 AM
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6. Andother K&R
Another Pandora listener here - it's a great resource that should not be bled dry by unfair business practices.

http://www.pandora.com/people/bookarts
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 11:51 AM
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9. I'm listening to your String Cheese station now!

Woo hoo! Thanks!!! :thumbsup:
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 11:57 AM
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12. And I am loving your eclectic station - thank *you*
This is one of the greatest things about internet radio: there is no payola between the music and me. Yeah, so it's a radio station and I can't exactly choose the exact songs I want to hear: so what? I've heard someone new every time I listen to Pandora.
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Mark Twain Girl Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 12:04 PM
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13. Kick for internet radio! n/t
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 12:12 PM
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14. Welcome to DU , Mark Twain Girl!
And thanks for the :kick:

:hi:

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 02:52 PM
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16. I sent my e-mails to my reps! It was so easy!!
Thank you for using Save Internet Radio Mail System

Message sent to the following recipients:

Representative Frank

Representative Kerry

Representative Kennedy

Message text follows:

May 18, 2007




Dear Representative/Senator ,

As a fan of Internet radio, I was alarmed to learn that the Copyright
Royalty Board has decided to raise music royalty rates by 300 to 1200
percent. For most webcasters the new royalties exceed their revenue and
they simply will go bankrupt and stop webcasting.

The silencing of Internet radio would be a blow to listeners like me who
enjoy the wide variety of choices only available via Internet radio. This
will kill the great diversity of music that I hear over the Internet and
all the independent artists who have a difficult time breaking through on
other forms of radio.

I respectfully request that Congress look into this matter and take action
to prevent it. Please understand that time is of the essence since the
new royalty rates are retroactive to January 1, 2006 so they will cause
immediate bankruptcies if they become effective for even one day.

Please!!! Don't let the music die!!

Thank You!


Sincerely,

Breeze54


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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 03:05 PM
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17. Another really ridiculous thing about this law: The RIAA will actually be collecting money
even on songs they don't have the rights to. So if I write a piece of MY OWN music, put it on MY OWN station... I will have to pay them money.
That's just ridiculous. A blatant example of the government supporting a monopoly.
I don't know why they aren't mentioning the RIAA on this site, probably fear of being sued by them... but the RIAA will be the one collecting the fees. Yes, SUPPOSEDLY they're supposed to distribute the fees for music they don't own to the artists... but how much do you want to bet that it'll be damn near impossible for non-RIAA affiliated artists to actually go through the red tape to collect, and they'll be taking a hefty cut?
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 03:20 PM
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18. It's definately a BS scam!
Edited on Fri May-18-07 03:22 PM by Breeze54
I thought I saw a link to RIAA on the site but maybe it was in an article I read.

Here: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/may2007/tc20070515_798273.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index_technology
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 03:26 PM
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19. In my opinion, the worst part isn't that they're taking money that doesn't belong to them...
or that they're setting the prices instead of letting the market do so... but that they are just trying to control what we can and can't hear. If they keep us from hearing original music, we'll keep buying the crap they put out as being the newest 'thing'. And that is how they intend to profit from this. They don't actually care about making people pay these royalties... they just want to force the little guys out of business.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 03:31 PM
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20. Yup! Controling the tubes!!!!
Edited on Fri May-18-07 03:52 PM by Breeze54
Like Net Neutrality! But I also think it's a silencing plot!
We have a presidential and other elections coming up.
Not all are just music broadcasters. There are also independent news dj's!
It's one more way they want to control the message! Or stop it!
I mean, look at CBS and ABC! Not one mention of the Coney testimony!!

----------------------

Political like this one!

Randy Goat Radio

DJ: randygoat -- Email this Broadcaster

Location: Nashua, NH, United States

http://www.live365.com/stations/randygoat

talk, comedy, political -- FM 32kmp 3PRO
2056 total listening hours in the last 30 days

Good (19 votes)
Delete this Preset

Inappropriate, Offensive, and Just Plain Wrong :P

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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 05:31 PM
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21. Yep.
Fewer and fewer people controlling what the general populace sees and hears... scary.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 05:33 PM
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22. THEY gotta lock down the Inter-Tubes!
Too much truth and freedom for we Americans.


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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 05:53 PM
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23. Awesome Pic, Swamp Rat! Freaked me out at first!! Yikes!!


Inter-Tubes... :rofl:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 05:57 PM
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24. THANKS!!!
:hug:

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 06:32 PM
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25. ~~ Testimonials ~~
Pass the Mic ~ Testimonials ~~

http://www.savenetradio.org/musicians/pass_the_mic20.html

Testimonial Page:
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21

............................

Please send and e-mail to your rep or call them!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Testimonials............


Shadowdancer

I have had wonderful exposure on the internet radio stations.
Please do not put this into jeapordy.





Ross Moore Entertainment

I am an independent artist and thanks to internet radio staions my music gets heard across the
southern and eastern United States. These proposed fees will force these stations to go bankrupt
- rather than put extra money into my pocket.





302

Although I play "pop rock" of a style that's very popular today, I could never possibly obtain
exposure through the traditional channels of large record companies and radio conglomerates.
At 41 years old, I'm way beyond what they consider to be their marketable age range (30 is over
the hill!). Internet radio has offered me an opportunity to reach my audience in a way that
would be impossible if internet radio were wiped out. And I'm sure there are thousands of other
artists out there with the same story as me. Please, on behalf of all of us, I beg you to create
a legal climate that will allow internet radio to flourish, rather than wither and die.



TORPEDOES

We're just trying to get heard like everyone else; this will smother new music development.



Muy Cansado

Manager of Muy Cansado... The web has revolutionized music... Im all about supporting
the indi artists without comprising the ARTISTS' copyrights... Labels/Big corporates
have abused us with huge profit margins for too long. Less restrictions, the better...



Dan Murphy

Internet radio (especially Pandora)has provided my fellow musicians and I a way to better direct
our listening, helping us to find less-famous performers amidst the backdrop of heavily funded
and/or already popular and recognized musicians. I also offers a glimpse of other musicians with
similar interests whom we otherwise wouldn't have been aware of. This is proving to be one of the
most important methods of musical and cultural discovery available today. It is far superior to
programmed radio or individual CD's for these purposes. There should not be any increase in
licensing fees, especially in such a directly hurtful manner and at such an alarming percentage.
-DM




Lucretia's Daggers

Independent artists have enough troubles trying to make it in the business.
We don't make any money, spend a lot to produce our art, and need all the
free support we can get from radio, internet and otherwise.
Allow all our available options, please!



In Human Weather

We host a show every Sunday linked to a US net radio site www.odu.fm
If we get our show cut then a lot of our unsigned acts wont get airplay anywhere.
We've forged good links between America and the UK getting the best unsigned bands in the UK
some airplay. If it goes then corporate radio takes over and there will be no new scene and
the Britneys and American Idols of this world will be given free reign :(



Djunfitforwork

I am a U.K listenter -and recording artist. I suffer from agoraphobia, so rely on
non-mainstream, genuinely cutting edge independent broadcasters to keep in touch
with the best in music.




Ted Bagel -D.J of my favorite station - has always communicated directly to me through
MSN messenger and been an inspiration as a person and a broadcaster.He has supported
the attempts of U.K musicians with mental health problems to keep up our efforts.
Such personal contact would NEVER happen on mainstream or corporate "alternative" radio.



... ...

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 07:28 AM
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30. Big Changes Are Ahead...
I've been fortunate to work with some great people involved with the development of Internet radio from a mild fascination into something on the verge of very big things...and that's why the RIAA is sticking its nose in.

With the refinement of wireless internet, handheld devices like cellphones, IPODs, Blackberries and other toys and the new generation of high quality audio codecs that will make streaming to these devices easy, the RIAA is playing gatekeeper...trying to grab some bucks and also doing corporate radio's dirty work.

Under the surface here is the problems in "conventional radio". Besides their bleeding red ink from a decade of monopolizing the airwaves and choking on the debt they've incurred...they invested millions in their own digital technology...HD Radio...that is turning into a major bust. New wireless internet radios offer better quality than HD radio with a lot more flexibility...and is a major threat to all these companies. They want to control Internet radio and the best way is to scare away the small fish and then legislate themselves into control. Unfortunately, there's now a Democratic Congress in place that isn't likely to roll the way previous ones did.

Hopefully Internet Broadcasters will continue to unite and work together to expose what's happening here. The more voices that speak up, the harder it is for the RIAA and its corporate cronies to ruin or further delay the advancement of digital broadcasting.

Cheers...
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 08:58 AM
Response to Reply #30
33. Nice post and very informative!
Thanks!! :)
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 02:27 PM
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35. Old Media can go fuck themselves. They SHALL NOT WIN!!!
Come on you corporatist fuckers, JUST TRY. New Media will always be be one step ahead of any attempt by Old Media to control them.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 08:15 PM
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36. KICK
:kick:
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