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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 11:11 AM
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Ridiculous crap about Joe McCarthy
I started hearing about this crap this week, as an actual effort (although I've known it was coming for some time) by the right to make McCarthy a hero:

http://www.amazon.com/Blacklisted-History-Senator-McCarthy-Americas/dp/140008105X

From Publishers Weekly
Evans's lively book seeks, first, to demonstrate that Communists worked, often successfully, to undermine American security during the Cold War. It tries, second, to defend Sen. Joseph McCarthy, the egregious scourge of American Communists and fellow travelers, against those who, in Evans's (The Theme Is Freedom) view, have unjustly ruined his reputation. On the first point, save for some new details, Evans, a contributing editor to Human Events, treads worn ground. Most scholars, having also used Soviet archives, concede his position and argue now only over secondary matters, like the guilt of Alger Hiss. On the second point, Evans has a tougher case, which he seeks to make as a defense attorney would: by conceding nothing to McCarthy's detractors. Evans is also given to conspiracy thinking—an approach that, by its nature, yields claims that can neither be confirmed nor falsified. Defense attorneys and debaters like Evans follow different rules than historians—they try to score points, not to advance knowledge. Evans is good at the former, his propulsive style carrying much of the argument's burden. But the history Evans relates is already largely known, if not fully accepted.. 20 illus. (Nov. 6)


And of course in the comments on Amazon, the ultimate argument to discredit anyone who disagrees that McCarthy was a sainted hero, is that those who criticize are LIBERALS...
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 11:13 AM
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1. You know the more they come up with this stuff
we see how far down the path of madness the republican party has gone. Do they put something in the water, food or drinks these people have at these turn outs. They sure must.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 11:15 AM
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2. It is so blatantly asinine that my head spins
I feel dirty knowing that there are people in my country who believe this crap.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 11:19 AM
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3. Yes, well, they also think Ronald Reagan is the greatest modern president
in US history! Broken down old Ronny, the guy that looked old and played out in front of Congress - lying about remembering if he violated the US Constitution (which of course he did along with his co-conspirators) to a room full of Congress critters. He sat back and took credit for the fall of the Soviet Union, when it was Micheal Gorbachev that did all the work!

Just like a Repuke to take credit for someone else's work!

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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 12:19 PM
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5. But god help you if
you're an athlete and you lie about juicing. They'll put your ass in jail. It's so hard to believe.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 10:46 AM
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7. I know!
I still am in shock over that, famous athlete - go to jail! Famous politican - can we fluff your pillows some more, sir? :mad:
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 07:19 AM
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8. In their world, there is their side and EEEEeevul
Anyone on their side can do no wrong. When they act horribly, they are immediately forgiven so long as they apologize. Anyone else can never do anything right, regardless. So since St. Ronnie was on their side, he could screw the country over seven ways to Sunday and it made no difference.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 11:24 AM
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4. Using McCarthy's same bullshit to defend McCarthy
How much more moronic can you get? It's no surprise that every dipshit from coast to coast rushes to proclaim what a great book this is. The endorsements alone speak volumes about its wingnuttery:

"America, please read this book."
-Glenn Beck

"the greatest book since the Bible"
-Ann Coulter, Creators Syndicate

"It takes M. Stanton Evans's meticulous investigative journalism to show what Joe McCarthy's short stay on the national stage (a little under five years, from February 1950 to December 1954) really was about."
-Robert Novak, Weekly Standard

"So comprehensive is Evans's research that it will be a foolish historian who does not consult Blacklisted by History when a question arises over some person or event that comes into the McCarthy story."
-John Earl Haynes, co-author, Venona: Decoding Soviet Espionage in America

"This book will change forever how you think about Sen. McCarthy and the Soviet penetration of the U.S. government and society."
-Bob McMahan, Foreign Service Journal

"Evans goes through extensive files and transcripts with complete mastery of complex material and an engaging turn of phrase that makes more than 600 pages of painstaking analysis both a triumph of historical scholarship and a gripping detective story."
-David Ashton, The Salisbury Review

"Of the hundreds of books on the McCarthy era, Stan Evans has written the best—a nuanced, incredibly detailed work of scholarship."
-William Schulz, The American Spectator

"In this masterful instant classic, M. Stanton Evans sets out to tell the 'Untold Story of Joe McCarthy' and does so definitively."
-Jack Cashill, WorldNetDaily

"This is a master newspaperman at work: digging, interviewing the record, pulling apart and putting together the details of deeds done mostly by the politicians who ran our imperfect national government in the nineteen fifties."
-John Willson, Chronicles

"After combing through masses of declassified documents from Congress, the FBI, the State Department and other federal agencies, Stan Evans has produced a masterpiece of tru th."
-Terry Jeffrey, Human Events

"Evans, a veteran journalist, doesn't shout. He displays, instead, a deadly meticulousness that is, at last, overwhelmingly convincing."
-William Rusher, United Features Syndicate

"the most thorough scholarly examination of career"
-Cliff Kincaid, Accuracy In Media

"brilliantly documented"
-Wes Vernon, RenewAmerica.us

"monumental ... the result of six years of reading primary sources. Evans proves that almost everything about McCarthy in current history books is a lie and wil l have to be revised.... one of Reagan's old radio commentaries referred to Evans as 'a very fine journalist.' He is, indeed, but this book shows that he also is a Sherlock Holmes-type detective who chased every clue to find the truth and to write accurate history in elegant prose..... Everyone who henceforth writes about Joe McCarthy will have to check his facts with Evans' documented discoveries."
-Phyllis Schlafly, Creators Syndicate
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 07:49 PM
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6. The fun began this week when I found out a co-worker believes this crap
I can handle a co-worker that's a repub. I can even handle a co-worker that's a teabagger, so long as they shut up about it at work. But a McCarthyist? Will I have to always watch my back to make sure he's not going to report me to the police out of spite?
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