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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 01:00 PM
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Karma. Is this an example?
Man badly burned when girlfriend's house set fire

http://www.oregonlive.com/clark-county/index.ssf/2010/09/man_badly_burned_when_girlfriends_house_set_fire.html

VANCOUVER, Wash. -- Clark County sheriff's deputies say a Vancouver man was badly burned when a house with his girlfriend and three others inside was set on fire.

The sheriff's office says deputies responding to a domestic disturbance Friday night were told the boyfriend had doused the 23-year-old woman with gasoline, poured gas around the house and fled. A fire broke out, but the woman, her 5-year-old son, her sister and mother were able to escape.

Deputies say a man was found nearby with severe burns to his hands, arms and legs. He was taken to Legacy Emmanuel Hospital in Portland for treatment. The sheriff's office identified him as 23-year-old David Michael Miller, of Vancouver. No charges have been filed in the case.

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Chaos or random order?
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 01:03 PM
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1. Or stupid.
Sometimes the universe doesn't need to help out.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 01:12 PM
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4. Absolutely, most of what people call karma is simply the result
of a stupid and vengeful person managing immediate blowback for his actions.

Let's hope his balls got roasted to the point he's out of the gene pool. Karma doesn't need help, but Darwin often does.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 01:21 PM
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6. No claim here on the term 'karma'
I'm quite sure most Americans, myself included, don't fully understand the concept.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 01:03 PM
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2. ... every intention you send out to the universe ...
... comes back to you threefold.


:hippie:
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 01:17 PM
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5. That is why there are so many starving children. They're all evil deep down inside. nt
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 02:19 PM
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10. typical GD response
:eyes:
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 02:23 PM
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11. Typical woo blow off when faced with logic. nt
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 02:45 PM
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14. LIghten up. This post is not worth being mean about.
Get your panties in a wad over health care reform or O'Donnell coverage.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 02:57 PM
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15. Pointing out flawed logic on a debate board is mean?
I don't think I am the one who needs to lighten up.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 01:10 PM
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3. Well, there's no such thing as karma.
But yeah, that'd be karma if it actually existed.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 01:23 PM
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7. It's an example of someone who is ate up with the dumbass
I'm not sure how much karma comes into play.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 01:46 PM
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8. "ate up with the dumbass"
I will have to remember that.

Is it sort of like, "Teh stupid...it burns!" ???
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 02:14 PM
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9. It works really well down South
The proper way to say it is...

"That boy is just ate up with the dumbass."
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 03:27 PM
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16. Or "That boy is plumb ate up with dumbass."
:P
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 02:33 PM
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12. Maybe, but THIS definitely is:
LOS ANGELES (AP) — A man trying to kill his girlfriend by stopping a car in front of an approaching train was himself killed Monday when the train hit the vehicle and launched it into him as he tried to flee, police said.

The girlfriend survived.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-05-21-train-attempted-murder_N.htm
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 02:34 PM
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13. Nope - Karma is not linear
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/thanissaro/karma.html


Karma is one of those words we don't translate. Its basic meaning is simple enough — action — but because of the weight the Buddha's teachings give to the role of action, the Sanskrit word karma packs in so many implications that the English word action can't carry all its luggage. This is why we've simply airlifted the original word into our vocabulary.

But when we try unpacking the connotations the word carries now that it has arrived in everyday usage, we find that most of its luggage has gotten mixed up in transit. In the eyes of most Americans, karma functions like fate — bad fate, at that: an inexplicable, unchangeable force coming out of our past, for which we are somehow vaguely responsible and powerless to fight. "I guess it's just my karma," I've heard people sigh when bad fortune strikes with such force that they see no alternative to resigned acceptance. The fatalism implicit in this statement is one reason why so many of us are repelled by the concept of karma, for it sounds like the kind of callous myth-making that can justify almost any kind of suffering or injustice in the status quo: "If he's poor, it's because of his karma." "If she's been raped, it's because of her karma." From this it seems a short step to saying that he or she deserves to suffer, and so doesn't deserve our help.

This misperception comes from the fact that the Buddhist concept of karma came to the West at the same time as non-Buddhist concepts, and so ended up with some of their luggage. Although many Asian concepts of karma are fatalistic, the early Buddhist concept was not fatalistic at all. In fact, if we look closely at early Buddhist ideas of karma, we'll find that they give even less importance to myths about the past than most modern Americans do.

For the early Buddhists, karma was non-linear and complex. Other Indian schools believed that karma operated in a simple straight line, with actions from the past influencing the present, and present actions influencing the future. As a result, they saw little room for free will. Buddhists, however, saw that karma acts in multiple feedback loops, with the present moment being shaped both by past and by present actions; present actions shape not only the future but also the present. Furthermore, present actions need not be determined by past actions. In other words, there is free will, although its range is somewhat dictated by the past. The nature of this freedom is symbolized in an image used by the early Buddhists: flowing water. Sometimes the flow from the past is so strong that little can be done except to stand fast, but there are also times when the flow is gentle enough to be diverted in almost any direction.

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