Sir Ian McKellen takes on the Pope.

[TheBigotBasher]

[sakabatou]

1. That's bitchin'

:D

[proteus_lives]

2. He is very awesome.

:thumbsup:

[Solly Mack]

3. I love him

[Canuckistanian]

4. Awesome

Gandalf could TOTALLY beat the Pope in a magic duel. The Pope can't even do a decent "wingardium leviosa"

[marmar]

5. Sir McKellen is too cool for school.

:thumbsup:

[sarge43]

6. A gentle and perfect knight. n/t

[BrklynLiberal]

7. +1000

:thumbsup:

Did you ever see the bit he did on SNL imitating Maggie Smith?

Still pics here, along with others of his guest host appearance.
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2002/03/17/26682-tv-watch-ian-mckellen-on-snl-3/

[sarge43]

10. Don't have cable, but I image he was terrific

Recommend the following films

Gods and Monsters (A labor of love about the last days of director James Whale)
Cold Comfort Farm (Small role, but worth it. The man can do funny)
Richard III (Makes Dickie both terrifying and pitiful)
Acting Shakespeare (Done in 1982, a one man performance of just that, how to bring Old Bill to life. Riveting)

[glinda]

13. I saw him in Richard III. Amazing! He rocks.

[sarge43]

21. Indeed. Much underrated film. n/t

[glinda]

23. I saw him in the play. Live. before the movie.

[sarge43]

25. Oh, lucky you. Did he use the modern setting and the Art Deco look? n/t

[glinda]

54. Yes, stark, deco and Hitler/Stalanesque.

[lolly]

27. Me too--at UCLA's Royce Hall

Back in the early 80s.

[PatrynXX]

37. Quite good in Gods and Monsters

although it'll be difficult to watch it again. Much like Apt Pupil.

[sarge43]

50. I don't know if I can ever watch Apt Pupil.

I read King's short story and it was unsettling to say the least.

[BrklynLiberal]

16. Thanks for the recommendations.

[radhika]

28. Saw him on stage in Richard III - unbelievably great! n/t

[sarge43]

34. I envy you all having seen him in person.

He can burn up a screen; he must be breathtaking in a live performance.

[lunatica]

8. Don't mess with Sir Ian.

He's got too many fans!

[SalmonChantedEvening]

9. K&R

Bravo Sir Ian! :yourock:

[DCKit]

11. SuperFag... and, geez, at his age. Oh, Daddy!!! n/t

[Richard Steele]

12. That's the single greatest T-shirt I've ever fucking seen.

I wish he really -WAS- Gandalf and Magneto.

[The Doctor.]

29. And he's the only one who can truly wear it.

That's badass.

[derby378]

14. Nicely done!

:applause:

[Kolesar]

15. What does it mean? eom

[Withywindle]

17. "Get Over It" is an anti-homophobia campaign in the UK

McKellen is an actor who's portrayed both very powerful, iconic characters and is also very openly gay.

So essentially he's saying, "I'm a cosmic badass, and I'm gay. Get over it."

[sarge43]

22. I think he's also saying

I've made some significant contributions; what's your score?

[Kolesar]

39. Gandalf is a Tolkien character, IIRC, I don't know Mageneto

Get over it is a good slogan.

[sarge43]

52. X-Men films n/t

[Kolesar]

53. thanks...eom

[girl gone mad]

18. ..

[Eyerish]

19. That's Brilliant!

K&R

[ruggerson]

20. you've just been outclassed, Ratzo

n/t

[SemperEadem]

24. love that t shirt!!! rofl!

[Joe Bacon]

26. That ought to scramble Pope Eggs Benedict

:-)

[Irishonly]

30. Too Cool For Words

I adore him.

[Odin2005]

31. That is COOL.

I didn't even know he was gay!

[Green_Lantern]

32. as a Catholic I think gays should be allowed to get married

But I'm not sure how the protests against the Pope really help the cause or does it just rile people up to vote against it.

England has a pretty big history of anti-Catholicism...first from state Protestantism and now a vastly secular society so this is kind of a dog bites man story.

[Arugula Latte]

36. Well, the Catholic Church wasn't an innocent victim, that's for sure.

[Green_Lantern]

38. true but by anti-Catholicism I meant against Catholics...not just the

Church leaders.

All we need to do is look Catholics in Northern Ireland but that's just there. It was also pretty bad for them in England,which probably stems from how new Protestants were treated when Catholics were in power.

But when talking about the Rwanda genocide I doubt you'd say "the Tutsis weren't innocent that's for sure".

And no I'm not saying there was a genocide of Catholics in England.

[defendandprotect]

59. Most of the anti-Catholic arguments are vs the leadership... not Catholic members ....

though I'm amazed that Catholics haven't demanded the resignation of this Pope

for covering up pedophile scandals?

[Green_Lantern]

62. don't be amazed...many people didn't demand Bush resign either...

I doubt the Pope would ever resign.

[sarge43]

55. During the European religious wars of the 16th and 17th centuries, neither side had clean hands.

Only the world wars were more bloody and vicious. At the end of the 30 Years War, central Europe, especially Germany, was a waste land.

One of the principal reasons the Founding Fathers insisted on a religion neutral government. The wars weren't ancient history to those men; they were near living memory.

[pennylane100]

45. I grew up as a catholic in england

and I never remember any anti catholic tensions. There was even a government run catholic school in our town.

[Green_Lantern]

56. I guess it depends on when you grew up in England and in which town..

Was it a town with many Catholics?

[defendandprotect]

49. Pope should resign .... the RCC is not symbolic of morality... it is anti-morality ....

Why protests against the Pope? Because the RCC still teaches the "inferiority" of

homosexuals -- still preaches intolerance and hatred for homosexuals from its pulpits!

[Green_Lantern]

57. don't bet on the Pope resigning..

The hard line stance on social issues has nothing to do with the Pope's personal opinions(although I'm betting this one is ultra-conservative) but the terrible doctrine of infallibility. Most non-Catholics misunderstand infallibility and think it just means the Pope can't be wrong.

Actually it really means that every Pope is stuck abiding by every moral and faith dogma set by earlier Popes or admit papal infallibility doesn't exist and looking at history they've done black flips to save that doctrine.

The day the infallibility doctrine is tossed out I'll be extremely happy because it'll be beneficial to the Church and others effected by it.

[defendandprotect]

58. This Pope has led the cover-up of sexual abuse of children by priests ....

I'm sure you've seen the reports and documents on that -- let me know if you
need me to repeat them --

And, for that reason alone, Catholics should be demanding his resignation !!


This is not true ....

Actually it really means that every Pope is stuck abiding by every moral and faith dogma set by earlier Popes or admit papal infallibility doesn't exist and looking at history they've done black flips to save that doctrine.

And Pope John XXIII's Vatican II is an example of how untrue those comments are --

Pope John XXII kicked Papal "infallibity" in the ass -- and told Catholics to use their own

personal conscience and free will to decide for themselves re using birth control.

Pope John XXIII also sought with Vatican II to give the church a compassionate and humane

face -- and to bring democracy to the church.


The day the infallibility doctrine is tossed out I'll be extremely happy because it'll be beneficial to the Church and others effected by it.

It was ended by Vatican II, but the right wing of the church quickly organized a coup on

the Pope and Vatican II. At least two other Popes seem to have been assassinated in that

time. AND, since then the church has moved into the hands of right wingers who have buried

Vatican II and ended liberalation theology while gagging most of their liberal Catholic critics.

They also brought Opus Dei back into the church -- previously barred.

And, teachings of the church since the coup have steadily moved to the right -- including this

Pope's plans to move to Evangelical Catholicism!


The notion of Papal Infalliility was created in 1864-65 AFTER both the French and then the

Italians closed down all of the Papal ghettoes which held Jews in isolation from society,

forcing them to wear Yellow Stars and barring them from education and careers.

The Italians moved the Vatican/Pope to the area where the Vatican now exists -- a 1 mile

square "nation" of only males!

After that the Pope went into isolation - when it ended, he had invented the theory of

Papal Infallibility.

[Green_Lantern]

63. Vatican 2 didn't change the Church's position on moral and faith issues

All it did was to give each diocese a bit more autonomy. It definitely didn't say the use of birth control was up to personal conscience.

Opus dei wasn't barred by Vatican 2...if anything Vat 2 strengthened by giving laypeople a greater role in the Church.

[nolabear]

33. That is the new definition of AWESOME. You tell 'im, Ian!!

Go on with your Pope self; I'll see your pointy hat and raise you the ability to control iron-based metals, AND my freaking ring beats your freaking ring!

[Arugula Latte]

35. I love it. Old Popie is probably longing for the good old days when he could have

put people who didn't buy into his crap on the rack or the Catherine wheel or in the iron maiden or something ... Or maybe just burn 'em at the stake.

[DesertDiamond]

40. OMG!! OMG! I wish I had a poster of that! LOL!

[guyton]

41. Guys, it's a photoshop!

http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000758.html



Kudo's to him for protesting, too bad so many were fooled by the pix!

[jonthebru]

44. I figured that by the shirt on the person behind him.

Makes it better actually.

[nolabear]

46. Aww, too bad. But the sentiment is just perfect.

[sarge43]

51. +1000 n/t

[Dappleganger]

42. He's fucking brilliant.

And it's good to see people protesting that SOB.

[blue_roses_lib]

43. k&r!

That shirt is F-ing badass! You go Ian!!

"I am a servant of the secret fire, wielder of the Flame of Anor! The Dark fire will not avail you, Flame of Udûn! Go back to the shadow! YOU… SHALL NOT… PASS!"

:yourock:

[Fearless]

47. Nice! Still perfer the original though... Others included as well..

?w=445&h=661



http://www.edgephiladelphia.com/display/viewimage_story.php?id=109876

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Enjoy.

[AnnieBW]

48. YOU SHALL NOT PASS!

:yourock:

[Jack Rabbit]

60. For the Bardophiles among us

Please click here (Run time 2 hrs, 36 mins).

[Bucky]

61. Can I buy that shirt somewhere?

Or do you have to earn it?