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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 06:08 AM
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Warren PR Push Intensifies as Evidence Against Her Succeeding Mounts
In other words, the die is already cast. The Obama Administration, again and again, has taken the side of the financial services industry, with the occasional sops to unhappy taxpayers and some infrequent scolding of the industry to improve the optics.

Friday brought the bizarre combination of a full bore PR push in conjunction with more evidence that Warren’s role was certain to be limited. It isn’t clear whether there was a change in plan or merely a later release of full details, but it emerged Friday that Warren had never planned to take a five year term as head of the agency (!). So the ambiguous nature of her role wasn’t simply, as reported earlier in the week, to avoid a confirmation battle the Administration might lose, but also because she did not want to serve a full term. Accordingly, the Administration announced, Warren would help select the person who would be nominated permanent head of the agency.

Now I have to tell you, this is mighty peculiar. It is now official that Warren is at best a placeholder; she cannot have much impact. She can’t make much in the way of policy or personnel choices; that would encroach on the authority of an incoming director. And even her ability to influence the choice of a nominee is questionable. Her taking the advisory role now assures that the nomination of the permanent director will come after the midterm Congressional elections. Given the virtual certainty of Democratic losses, the odds are high that Team Obama will settle on a “conservative” meaning “won’t ruffle the banking industry” choice, and argue its hands were tied.

So the Obama camp has played this extremely well. They get to avail themselves of the Warren brand, give her a Potemkin role, and use it to push the timetable for nomination of the permanent director out, which give them cover for installing a more compliant choice.

Now contrast this reality with the theater on Friday to broadcast the party line that the Warren appointment is a giant leap forward for consumers. It wasn’t just the full court press by the Administration to get the message out (including a blogger conference call with Warren that I learned of too late) but also aggressive moves with organizations that could carry the message. And “aggressive” is no overstatement; I was given a long form, first hand account of an high handed effort by people aligned with Warren to say a particular group saw her appointment as a big pro consumer step when that group had no intent of making that statement.

The politically connected people I spoke to read this situation the same way I do (and further commented that their views are widely shared). Amusingly, Ron Paul is also providing cover by harrumphing about Warren being an “enormously powerful regulator” (really?). But the noise he and other bank industry boosters make illustrate a key point: her role as advisor is not a position of strength, her perch is not secure. And note further: the consumer protection agency cannot draft legislation or regulate until it is transferred to the Fed in July of next year.

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/09/warren-pr-push-intensifies-as-evidence-against-her-succeeding-mounts.html

Yves Smith is a leading economic blogger (one of the many who saw the financial crisis coming) and author of the book Econned.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 06:12 AM
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1. Wow. Can this article be more negative? And it's all
Edited on Sun Sep-19-10 06:16 AM by babylonsister
total supposition backed up by 'accounts' from unnamed people. Yawn.


Maybe this person is part of the problem...


http://www.politico.com/arena/bio/yves_smith.html
Yves Smith

Yves Smith has written the popular and trenchant financial blog "Naked Capitalism" since 2006

Yves has spent more than 25 years in the financial services industry and currently heads Aurora Advisors, a New York-based management consulting firm specializing in corporate finance advisory and financial services. Prior experience includes Goldman Sachs (in corporate finance), McKinsey & Co., and Sumitomo Bank (as head of mergers and acquisitions). Yves has written for publications in the United States and Australia, including The New York Times, The Christian Science Monitor, Slate, The Conference Board Review, Institutional Investor, The Daily Deal and the Australian Financial Review.[Yves is a graduate of Harvard College and Harvard Business School.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 08:37 AM
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11. If the author of a pro-Obama piece had that resume,
they would be denounced as just another a "Wall Street corporatist."

But write a hit piece and it just adds to their credibility.

:shrug:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 03:55 PM
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 09:35 PM
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48. Wow. That guy is a gen-you-wine corporatist shill. Wonder why he hates Elizabeth Warren?
:eyes:


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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 01:46 PM
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51. So She Worked For The DEVIL GOLDMAN SACHS!!!!!!!!
And now she's gospel on Warren? :rofl:

The hypocrisy knows know bounds. I mean, Geithner is evil incarnate for supposedly working for Goldman, but this person is the greatest thing since Elizabeth Warren. It doesn't matter that she worked for Goldman, all that matters is she's slamminng Obama for appointing Warren. My mind is a pretzel.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 06:15 AM
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2. And you posted this here because.....????
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 06:20 AM
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3. ???
Why wouldn't I? :shrug:
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 06:43 AM
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4. I asked first.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 04:53 PM
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42. But you apparently have no opinion whatsoever on the piece or Ms. Warren's appointment.
Edited on Sun Sep-19-10 04:53 PM by blondeatlast
Kind of like Clarence Thomas regarding abortion vs. every other person of age in the US at the time.

Rrrrright.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 01:18 PM
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 06:45 AM
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5. This minuscule Consumer Protection Agency is not
going to change anything. One tiny little agency controlled by the banker's friend the Fed is going to have practically no impact on the scams and cons run by the banksters.

Look at all the fraud, cons and ponzi schemes the bankster are coninueing to play on cunsomers and tax payers. One little agency will barely make a dent in the scam considered business as usual.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 12:53 PM
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25. You're missing your tail, Eeyore.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 03:04 PM
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33. LOL!
:thumbsup:

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 04:08 PM
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36. then why were the Reactionary Screamers so worked up about Warren getting the appointment?
Edited on Sun Sep-19-10 04:08 PM by KittyWampus
First they scream she won't be appointed.

Then when she does, they say it doesn't mean anything.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 06:51 AM
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6. The sky is falling, the sky is falling! Another Chicken Little.
So she doesn't want a 5 year appointment. Is that Obama's fault? But she WILL stay long enough to set up the agency and choose her successor. We're lucky to have her.
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lillypaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 07:28 AM
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7. Incredible
proud to unrec - so tired of seeing this kind of stuff when NOTHING has even happened yet!!
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 07:46 AM
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8. What "evidence"?

What a bunch of BS.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 05:18 PM
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44. My thought too. nt
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 07:04 PM
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45. Rodney's a cutie! n/t
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 08:01 AM
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9. Warren will, in fact, have an uphill battle.....
and it it true that the most likely outcome is that she will simply give legitimacy to what was clearly designed to be an ineffective, window dressing agency.

But she's a remarkable woman and has beat the odds before. Here's hoping she pulls this off....
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 08:31 AM
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10. Nice hit piece you posted there without comment.
Edited on Sun Sep-19-10 08:32 AM by MineralMan
How do you feel about the content of the piece? Unrecommended.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 08:41 AM
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12. I'll wait and see what happens before throwing my hands up in the air in defeat
Jesus!
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 08:44 AM
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13. Unreccing this "I only see negatives" piece of garbage
:thumbsdown:
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 08:47 AM
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14. Unrec...
no comment? no added opinion from the poster?

Sid
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 09:10 AM
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15. In contrast, here is a post on this appointment with facts in it...
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 11:11 AM
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16. "WHY WON'T OBAMA APPOINT THIS STUPID AND NAIVE WOMAN!!!!"
So which is it? Is Warren a genius or a fool? I hear people say she should be appointed bacause she works for the people and is brilliant. Then these same people imply that she's so stupid, self serving and shallow that she is either too stupid to know she's being used or too shallow to care.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 04:30 PM
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37. Bang on...
great comment.

Sid
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 04:37 PM
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41. Yup. I think many here were positive teh appointment wouldn't happen
and are scrambling for a way to respin.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 09:41 PM
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49. It's one of life's mysteries, all right. Could it be that Obama threw her under the bus...
... by actually GIVING her the job? So that's why all these people are STILL MAD at Obama? It's... it's... :wow:

Ow! I've got brain cramp!

Hekate
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 11:43 AM
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17. Wow, so now Ms. Warren is thrown under the 'bus' as being easily ...
manipulated, unable to determine for herself whether the position she accepted for an agency that was HER vision gives her the tools to do the work needed. Wow, this piece of pure garbage is breathtaking in it's insults and deliberately misleading opining.

Unrec'd with enthusiasm

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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 11:44 AM
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18. I noticed many Con pundits on Bloomberg yesterday were saying the same thing. They all say Warren
will not have any real power. Now if that was true, why would RepubliCONS be pushing it. Because they hope to drive yet another wedge between the Dems and Obama. That's why. Since the writer of this article is in fact another finance guy who probably will not benefit from real reform, isn't it possible that this is just another example of the CON strategy?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 11:56 AM
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19. "a leading economic blogger" very funny


And only about 400 economists said that Ninja mortgage loans had overheated the economy, extended Q1 to the point of the breaking point and that a massive structural realignment was imminent.

Of course patronizing slandering of the President has become a hackneyed habitual ritual at DU as it is becoming the preeminent distribution of Anti Obama propoganda on the internet, now we must wade through attacks on Ms. Warren.

You are obviously aware that the conrtivance your very famous person that no one has heard of is also an attack on Ms. Warrens integrity and intelligence. If DU is not up to defending the President against such slurs perhaps we could stand together and stop such pitiful assaults against a great citizen who represents the best of the Progressive wing of the Demcratic Party.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 12:11 PM
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20. You have such little faith in Warren that you think she'd accept a "Potemkin role"?
You guys hate Obama so much you can't even keep your story straight.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 12:38 PM
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22. no shit. it was "WARREN 2012!!1!!" until she got appointed. now she's a sellout.
by now, i have learned to take great joy in thier misery. it warms my heart.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 12:36 PM
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21. double facepalm.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 12:42 PM
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23. ROFLMAO: leading economic blogger. OMG. *snort*
I'm a leading expert blogger on string theory.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 12:45 PM
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24. CRISIS!!11!!! what's next, calling jane hamster a leading political expert?
:rofl:
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 12:56 PM
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26. ZOMG!!1111`
Surely nobody would actually make that statement. Would they?!!!??? :rofl:
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 01:02 PM
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27. how's it going? it's almost time for fall cleanup on the estate. you wouldn't
believe how grumpy wadsworth gets helping me clean up all the acorns that fall this time of year...

:hi:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 01:21 PM
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 01:22 PM
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30. No....Ya Think? n/t
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 02:15 PM
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32. More likely that the post just didn't get many recs.
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 01:32 PM
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31. Fighting to Protect Consumers
Elizabeth Warren
Assistant to the President and Special Advisor to the Secretary of the Treasury on the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
Posted: September 17, 2010 06:00 AM

Fighting to Protect Consumers

"Over the past several weeks, the president and I have had extensive conversations about the vital importance of consumer financial protection.

The president asked me, and I enthusiastically agreed, to serve as an Assistant to the President and Special Advisor to the Secretary of the Treasury on the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. He has also asked me to take on the job to get the new CFPB started -- right now. The president and I are committed to the same vision on CFPB, and I am confident that I will have the tools I need to get the job done.

President Obama understands the importance of leveling the playing field again for families and creating protections that work not just for the wealthy or connected, but for every American. The new consumer bureau is based on a pretty simple idea: People ought to be able to read their credit card and mortgage contracts and know the deal. They shouldn't learn about an unfair rule or practice only when it bites them -- way too late for them to do anything about it. The new law creates a chance to put a tough cop on the beat and provide real accountability and oversight of the consumer credit market. The time for hiding tricks and traps in the fine print is over. This new bureau is based on the simple idea that if the playing field is level and families can see what's going on, they will have better tools to make better choices.

If the CFPB can succeed at leveling the playing field, we can go a long way toward repairing a gaping hole in the budgets of millions of families. But nobody has ever thought or argued that the consumer bureau can fix everything. Lost jobs, stagnant incomes, rising costs for college, dwindling retirement savings -- there's a lot of work to be done.
When she was 16, my grandmother, Hannie Reed, drove a wagon in the Oklahoma land rush. Her mother had died, so she was up front with her little brothers and sisters bouncing around in the back. When I was growing up, she talked about life on the prairie, about marrying my grandfather and making a living building one-room schoolhouses, about getting wiped out in the Great Depression. She was hit with hard challenges throughout her life, but the moral of her stories was always the same: she would solve her problems one at a time by pulling up her socks and getting to work.

It's time for all of us to pull up our socks and get to work.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elizabeth-warren/fighting-to-protect-consumers_b_720410.html


She posts at a real journalists' website, along with Dr. Jill Biden, Arianna Huffington, Dr. Andrew Weil, Noriel Roubini, Steven Chu, Dr. Deam Ornish, etc., etc., etc. Imagine that?



Just my dos centavos


robdogbucky


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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 03:58 PM
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35. So I guess no one want to address the points in the OP....
Very telling.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 04:30 PM
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38. What points?
The left bitched endlessly for Warren to be appointed and now that she has been, they bitch that she took a position that won't give her any power despite the fact that she's going to be completely in charge of setting up the commission and all of its regulations.

What the fuck point is there except a bunch of goddamn whiners who have finally gone so far overboard that they've exposed their chronic disconnect for all to see.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 04:35 PM
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40. Including the OP. nt
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 08:05 PM
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46. What points? The article is an impotent bitchfest.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 09:29 PM
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47. The OP didn't appear to ...
Very telling.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 04:34 PM
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39. Posted without comment equals disruption, IMHO. nt
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 05:14 PM
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43. "Evidence Against Her Succeeding Mounts"? BEFORE THE FACT?
How in the hell is that possible?
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 11:50 AM
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50. Now we've moved from Obama Derangement Syndrome to Warren Derangement Syndrome.
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