kentuck
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Sun Sep-19-10 08:08 AM
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Forget everything you have been told about the next election... |
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The average Republican is not a "teabagger". They watch TV and read the news just like you do. It is true that they do not like Barack Obama and have no intentions of voting for the Democratic Party. They watch C-SPAN and FOX News for information. But they are not "enthusiastic" about the Republican Party.
They, unlike their Teabagger brethren, watch their Party vote "No" and block everything that is brought to a vote, even bills that they previously voted for. They are just as apathetic, or moreso, than many Democrats. They are not rubbing their hands together gleefully, waiting for Election Day. That is how they have been portrayed in the media.
The pollsters and the political "experts" are wrong. They are more wrong than ever in history. The Democrats will not lose the House or Senate. In fact, the Democrats may break even or win seats in the next election. They are not as apathetic as the average Republican. They are not as "enthused" as the average "teabagger". So, at best, it is a wash for the Republican Party.
But, what about all the polls? They can't be wrong. Yes, they can be wrong. They have been used to manipulate public opinion because of corporate interest and corporate control of our electoral process. Wishing and hoping and propaganda does not make reality. The voters will shock these experts come Election Day.
That does NOT mean that the Democratic Party can be complacent and stay home. It DOES mean that we should not worry ourselves sick about the blitzkrieg that is going to roll over the Democratic Party on November 2nd. It ain't gonna happen.
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Sun Sep-19-10 08:11 AM
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1. I'm still here....and I'm with you... |
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I, too, cannot believe that the propaganda is based on reality.
If Democrats turn out and vote, the Repubs don't have a prayer.
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Sun Sep-19-10 08:13 AM
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Sun Sep-19-10 08:14 AM
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3. Nothing has been done to prevent voting machine trickery |
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for me its still an open issue so all bets are off. Its not who votes but who counts the votes so to speak.
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Sun Sep-19-10 08:26 AM
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With fixed voting machines, anyone can be selected, not elected.
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Sun Sep-19-10 08:52 AM
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Sun Sep-19-10 08:19 AM
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4. I'm voting for Jerry Brown and Barbara Boxer |
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And hopefully they won't need it because they've won handily against two of the most failed businesswomen on the planet.
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Sun Sep-19-10 08:20 AM
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5. & Remember teabaggers didn't vote for Obama in the first place....no matter what they say. |
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Sun Sep-19-10 08:24 AM
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6. It depends on if sane republicans are willing to put up with insane representation that is |
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A guaranteed no vote. Some may be willing to make that deal. It depends how much they want to block Obama.
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Sun Sep-19-10 08:30 AM
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8. GOTV decides elections. A motivated base is essential to GOTV. Point of TEA is motivate the base |
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Edited on Sun Sep-19-10 08:37 AM by leveymg
We have nothing like it - in fact, the Democratic elites have done all they can to alienate and disenfranchize the activist base.
The centrists in both parties will largely sit this one out.
Hope I'm wrong.
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Sun Sep-19-10 09:02 AM
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10. Many here thought Kerry was gong to beat bush |
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Sun Sep-19-10 09:30 AM
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12. Many here believe Kerry did beat Bush and Gore did too. |
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The machines were the problem and still are. In that last election it looked like the thugs would get caught so they backed off. I believe there was still election fraud in some places and Dems would have won by even bigger margins. People have to turn out or the election could be stolen again. We can't let the rebublicons take control, no matter what anyone thinks of Pres. Obama.
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Sun Sep-19-10 09:30 AM
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11. The voting machines are rigged. |
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Mark my words, there will be some serious shit coming down in November.
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Sun Sep-19-10 10:04 AM
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13. Good. Now go win by uncheatble margins. |
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Sun Sep-19-10 10:09 AM
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14. That's really complacent thinking. |
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The average German wasn't a Nazi, and probably a majority thought they were a bunch of kooks in the early 1930's, but they were able to get a critical mass of people elected.
Enough voters dissatisfied with the status quo and seduced by charismatic candidates telling them what they want to hear is a dangerous combination.
Just because the teabag movement is insane doesn't mean they should be dismissed. They need to be fought with intensity to eliminate them as a force in the political process.
The best way to do that is to beat them down hard in elections.
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Sun Sep-19-10 05:19 PM
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"That does NOT mean that the Democratic Party can be complacent and stay home. It DOES mean that we should not worry ourselves sick about the blitzkrieg that is going to roll over the Democratic Party on November 2nd. It ain't gonna happen."
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Sun Sep-19-10 12:14 PM
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16. I don't think a lot of the Teabaggers will even vote....... |
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unless they can vote for one of their own.
Also, many of the Teabaggers look like people who have never voted in their lives, and are really only good for the angry attention-getting marches and shout-fests, and are not long on follow-through. After all, voting is so boring, plus you've got to register, etc......
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Sun Sep-19-10 12:17 PM
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17. Good analysis. I agree with you. |
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I also think it is more likely that Democrats will be voting *against* something (insane RWers) rather than for something.
It didn't have to be that way.
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Sun Sep-19-10 05:53 PM
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19. One thing people need to remember |
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is that this entire doomsday narrative has been created by Rasmussen polling which has flooded the market with more polling than all the other big polling outfits put together. We have a conservative pollster releasing multiple polls on a daily basis with an obvious GOP slant and then the we have the media and most political analysts buying into it and creating the entire democratic Armageddon scenario based off these dozens of polls released by an unabashed republican pollster. Its a joke.
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Sun Sep-19-10 06:06 PM
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20. I don't have all the data, but I don't agree that the average republican is not |
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a teabagger. From what I observe, their party has moved very, very far to the right and the "average" is now more teabagger-like. Obviously there are some republicans who have not moved into the teabagger domain, but there aren't many left now. Delaware shows that to me as well as Alaska, Colorado, Utah, Kentucky, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.
Their party has totally changed and they don't have any leaders except Palin, Beck, Limbaugh and the Fox "news" crowd. McConnell and Boehner are out of the picture. I don't think this is a media apparition. The extreme right is controlling them now. As far as the fear of losing, as you say we shouldn't be; if our candidates run good campaigns and if Democrats just vote we will be OK.
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Sun Sep-19-10 07:35 PM
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21. But this is the meme to explain the vote fraud... |
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They'll need a reason and a rationale for all of the vote stealing that will go down.
This is it. This is the meme.
Doesn't matter if it's true.
Next election, they'll come up with a new one.
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