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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 08:49 AM
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In case anyone should still have doubts about Elizabeth Warren's intentions,
she has already hit the ground running in her new position, stating
that there will be no more "tricks and traps".

I imagine that Geithner and Summers will be opposed to her advice
at least part of the time, and Obama would be the one to make the final
decision. This will show whether he's on the side of the consumers or
of Wall Street.

I wonder if Obama's having chosen Elizabeth Warren could be a sign
of his change in direction where finances are concerned. Would this
lead to Geithner and Summers leaving the Administration in the not-
too-distant future?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 08:56 AM
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1. He's had his chance to replace Geithner and Summers. It's a bit late, now, for anything other than
gestures and symbolic politics.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 09:09 AM
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4. What you say may be true, but is it possible that the November
elections as well as his own elections in 2012 might play
a role in Obama's thinking? He might be influenced by the
thought that he should be on the side where he could get
the most votes.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 09:25 AM
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6. After the November elections, his options will be even less attractive. The chance was missed
Edited on Sun Sep-19-10 09:26 AM by leveymg
in the early months of the Administration to push through fundamental reforms in banking, tax and corporate oversight.

This duck is already limping. Tell me if I'm wrong . . . I wish I were.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 10:28 AM
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7. I have a feeling that Obama's decisions have been greatly
influenced by his preoccupation with the idea of "bipartisanship."
I read his first book where he related that he was trying to bring
people together when he worked in Chicago's poverty areas for three
years between college and going to law school. And he had been
very successful at bringing them together in fighting for more
benefits for their poverty-stricken areas.

By now I hope he sees that a partnership with the Neocons is not only
impossible, it's also positively dangerous! I think he has been lucky
that they turned down his offer time and again. It's far safer to have
them as open enemies.

Just look at the way they betrayed Linda Tripp. When it became known
that she had betrayed Monica Lewinsky, she became an embarrassment to
the Neocons. When she lost her job, it would have been so easy for one
of the corporations to have given her one, but they wouldn't touch her
with a 10-foot pole by then. That's the Neocons' way of saying thanks!
If it weren't for Linda Tripp, they would have never been able to attempt
to impeach Clinton.

Another example: The Neocons joined the Republican Party. It took them
decades, but they worked on the inside, climbed up the ladder, usurped
the power of the Republican leaders, ousted them, and took over the
party. This was all done very quietly. They were smart enough to keep
the Republican name, so that many old-timer Republicans (who are unaware
of the above) continue to think they are "voting Republican."

Obama certainly must know that Neocons can't be trusted. Yet he keeps on
offering them to join him. Maybe he is confident of being able to out-smart
them? But if this idea of "bringing people together" becomes an obsession
with him, then his judgment will have gone out the window. Psychopaths
cannot be changed, especially when there are large numbers of them working
together, reinforcing one another's natural sick personality traits.

He still has two years before his election. I think there is enough time
for him to make a real change -- if he is inclined to do so. I hope he does,
whatever the reasons behind his decisions may be. After all, he is a
politican. He may see that if he wants to win a second term, he'd have to
play on the side where he sees the votes are.

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 08:58 AM
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2. We all knew Elizabeth Warren's intentions were good....
It's the odds stacked against her that worries us....
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 09:14 AM
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5. Yes, and I hope that the odds stacked against her could be
reduced because of the elections. Obama might see that
being on Warren's side would get him more votes come November
2010, and especially November 2012. Obama is a politician.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 09:00 AM
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3. I've never doubted her intentions, its if she's been given the power to bring them to reality.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 10:52 AM
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8. wonder if getting some accounting for all the telcom fees charged
Edited on Sun Sep-19-10 10:53 AM by Gin
would be covered....I would like to see what progress has been made with all that money...by now...everyone on the planet should have access with the fees they charge.

It's like the airlines.....fees for everything.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 04:38 PM
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9. I see what you mean. I also see that playing footsies with
someone as popular as Elizabeh Warren, who is almost looked upon by many as
a deeply needed "savior" at at this very time, would be politically suicidal
for Obama, if he intends to run for a second term in 2012. He has to give
her the authority out of sheer necessity -- even if he shouldn't give a hoot
about doing "what is right."
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