Are you with Jon Stewart or Glenn Greenwald on whether Bush is a war criminal?

[Mefistofeles]

Jon Stewart slammed those on the left who consider Bush a war criminal. Greenwald differs.

New York Times: "He (Stewart) tarred both parties with that charge, mentioning both the attacks on the right against President Obama for being everything from a socialist to un-American and on the left against former President Bush for being a war criminal.". http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/16/jon-stewart-plans-to-rally-against-extremism/

In the video embedded in the article above, a protester is heard calling Bush "war criminal." (exactly at 3 minutes 39 seconds). This protester was one of the "extremists" that Jon Stewart used as an example of people who are wrong, including many conservatives who call Obama Muslim, Hitler, etc. and other liberals who called Bush Hitler.

Meanwhile, Glenn Greenwald says that Jon Stewart is one of the most "effective commentators in the country," but that the example in question is off-base. Greenwald cites the following quote from McClatchy in 2008:

"The Army general who led the investigation into prisoner abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison accused the Bush administration Wednesday of committing "war crimes" and called for those responsible to be held to account." Read more here: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/09/19/stewart/index.html

[rurallib]

1. without a leader leading us into illegal wars and sanctioning

torture among other things I doubt much of this would have happened.
He did so with purpose, knowing exactly what he was doing.
He is THE main war criminal. He could have stopped it all.

[gateley]

I think the REAL pressure came from Cheney and Rumsfeld, but

Bush jumped in with both feet. They're ALL war criminals. And as the saying goes, "and others too numerous to mention".

[rurallib]

5. Bush was still THE final say

whether he wanted to be or not, constitution says it was him. Goes with the job.

[gateley]

19. Oh, totally agree, but I think he couldn't have done it by himself

without those two (and more) conniving greedy mofos. Bush has total responsibility.

[blogslut]

2. Wow

This is a real question?

[gkhouston]

20. Yeah, we're picking teams for kickball. Whose side are you on?

There are always only two, and you must choose one. :eyes:

[EFerrari]

3. Of course Bush is a war criminal and we have the torture photos to prove it, Jon. n/t

[Vincardog]

11. Of course Bush is a war criminal and we have the torture photos to prove it, Jon. He even

bragged about it on TV

[mmonk]

4. Whether someone is a war criminal or not is not a left or right issue

and as a factual matter, that means Jon is wrong.

[Greyhound]

12. Well said.

:applause:

Jon, or rather his writers and paymasters, is simply wrong on this.

[rug]

6. Why don't we put him on trial and let a jury decide?

[katandmoon]

10. Obama's DOJ won't do that.

[frogmarch]

7. I like Jon Stewart, but

Bush IS a war criminal. Comparing those of us who recognize this fact to those who call Obama a Muslim or Hitler is like comparing apples to turds.

[malaise]

8. Bush is a war criminal

Cheney too and Rumsfeld, Condi Powell and the rest of the goons.

[katandmoon]

9. Of course Bush is a war criminal. So what does that make Obama for ignoring and continuing it?

[obxhead]

13. Good question.

I'm sure we're supposed to blame it on not having 60 votes in Senate and Obama not being in office long enough yet.

[Karmadillo]

14. Shhhhhhh! There's a midterm election coming up. Once that's past, I'm sure we'll

get back to upholding the Constitution by ending war crimes and prosecuting war criminals. Please donate and vote so that these worthy goals can be achieved.

[sad sally]

15. Watch "The Most Dangerous Man in America:

Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers" (2009). It certainly raises the probablity that those who know about lies and deciet within the government and rationalize that it's better to say and/or do nothing, also bear guilt.
The idea that the United States President took the Country to war against another Country under false and untrue reasons, ordered the military to commit acts of brutality and cruelty, set up a puppet government and continue to occupy it - that the current Congress and President (MY party) simply hope the American people continue to move on and hold no one accountable, is sad...

[LWolf]

16. Neither. I'm with myself.

I didn't listen to either, and I didn't click on your links.

I can make up my own mind. Nobody in the media, including left-leaning media, tells me what to think or where to stand.

[bullimiami]

17. yeah jon lost me on that one too. apparently asking for justice is extreme now.

[EFerrari]

18. Jon is just trying out some Fauxy fairness

but the problem with the left is not that a handful of us called Bush out. It's that the rest didn't and his crime spree continued for 8 years.