Al Gore's 3-30" Apple Cinema Displays Setup and his office desk

[IChing]

Man, does this guy read a lot?
Yes he does use Apple computers

[BlooInBloo]

1. I hope this thread goes the "neat-o" route, and not the "$400 haircut" route.

[whopis01]

34. I just hope that

one of those pieces of paper has a todo list like this:

(1) Stop global warming
(2) Work on saving a few trees by using less paper


:rofl:

[Lisa]

39. I think there's a recyc bin, almost out of sight on the left-hand side of the photo (n/t)

He probably prints his drafts on the backs of used pages, if he's anything like my co-workers.

[Clark2008]

80. (3) Run for President.

;)

[whopis01]

86. maybe even (1.5) - the trees can wait a bit. n/t

[liberaldemocrat7]

117. I have 3 monitors connected to my computer.

I have a 25" tv, a 21" monitor, and a 19" monitor.

[whopis01]

148. that is all well and good, but I don't see what it has to do with this thread. n/t

[Clark2008]

79. Al doesn't pretend to have been poor & be the Poverty Candidate.

Besides, that get-up is something of worth. It won't just disappear after one month's growth.

:evilgrin:

[Deja Q]

132. No, but he's pretending to be the environmental candidate.

Yes, he's got plenty of worth. By telling us, ironically, how wasting energy has caused greenhouse gasses and the near doom and gloom of the planet. And in that picture he's clearly wasting a lot of energy; at the very least not being conscious about it.

Just like diet food; people can think that eating three times as much diet food as regular food will still be better off. No, it won't. The net usage ends up being the same or even more.

It goes back to the carbon credit analogy - it's like credit cards, and once the interest kicks in the honeymoon ends.

[IChing]

134. whatever..............

[Kokonoe]

135. Excuse me, but how do you waste green energy,

it's everywhere, whether you use it or not. IF YOU DON'T USE IT YOU ARE WASTING IT.

[Divine Discontent]

156. yawn...

someone's never heard of being so into the present, that keeping an eye on many things that you need or want to requires some volts.... he's doing MUCH more good than bad on this planet, 99% can't say that.

www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<-- check it out, top '08 stuff

[Horse with no Name]

157. OR you can look at it like this.

The man is working from home thus not consuming fuel to get to work and back as well as not consuming resources to rent office space and run utilities there.:)

[Divine Discontent]

158. goodness you are so sarcastic & mean spirited

with your 'poverty candidate' line. In every thread where I see a pot shot at Edwards it's coming from YOU. You sure don't sound like a democratic supporter. You are not reflective of the great General at all. I'd work for the Clark campaign again if he runs, and hope I never saw you. Ignored from here on out.

[jollyreaper2112]

172. looks like a working man's office

Sometimes a messy office like that is the sign of serious work in progress, other times it means the guy is hopelessly disorganized. But you can give a messy desk the benefit of the doubt. I never trust a clean desk.

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. Love that frog on the wall!

Also love the guy behind the desk. :loveya:

[SharonRB]

16. Me, too

On both counts!

Run, Al, run!

[snappyturtle]

23. Me too! A little papier mache, paint and clear lacquer???? Yep, I

could do this!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

24. I picked the frog out as a personal favorite also

And the office is a perfect frame for the man. Filled with knowledge and willing to share with anyone who should feel the desire.

[frogcycle]

102. I have probably 20 or so frogs in my office

ceramic, stuffed, plastic - even the ceiling light fixture has frogs

[IChing]

28. The frog is a symbol of the devastation of climate change.

Climate Change Devastating Latin American Frogs

Science Daily — A University of Alberta scientist is part of an international research team proving, for the first time, that global warming is behind an infectious disease epidemic wiping out entire frog populations and forcing many species to extinction.
"There is absolutely a linkage between global warming and this disease - they go hand-in-hand," said Arturo Sanchez-Azofeifa, a professor in the U of A's Department of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences and co-author of a research paper appearing in the current edition of the prestigious journal Nature.
Sanchez-Azofeifa worked with an international research team led by Dr. Alan Pounds from Costa Rica's Monteverde Cloud Forest Preserve and Tropical Science Centre. Accounting for such things as deforestation, the scientists investigated how the Monteverde harlequin frog vanished along with the golden toad 17 years ago from the mountains of Costa Rica. The researcher say about 67 per cent of the 110 species of the harlequin frog, which only existed in the American tropics, have met the same fate due to a pathogenic fungus called Batrachochytrium dendrobatidis.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/01/060115173209.htm

[Mend]

85. and the animal that george bush used to torture...remember this. eom

[Blue State Blues]

90. Me three!

Er, four. Whatever.

[jayctravis]

110. Wow, and that's a sweet office chair too.

Imagine Einstein and Tesla having that technology at their disposal.

[trotsky]

3. THAT is the office of a working man.

(Of course I say that due to its cluttered resemblance of mine. ;-) )

[IChing]

5. Same here when I'm on a project.

[trotsky]

8. But I'll bet that if you asked him for one particular book or paper,

he'd know EXACTLY what stack it's in and how deep it is. I am the same way.

[htuttle]

82. I call it the 'sedimentary file system'

The important stuff keeps getting pulled out and put on top, the less important stuff turns into compost at the bottom.

But I must say, I am duly humbled by the state of his desk!

[Blue State Blues]

89. it's a green filing system

composting and all. ;)

[SharonRB]

13. I was just feeling like I should be cleaning my desk

Now that I've seen this -- not so much. I don't feel badly at all.

[americanstranger]

74. I'll show this to my wife.

She thinks I have The Messiest Office In The Universe.

If it's good enough for Al, it's good enough for me.

- as

[intheflow]

113. I had the same initial reaction.

My disaster zone office looks downright manageable by comparison!

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

75. A mess THAT messy can't be staged.

If you tried, it would look like a garbage can was dumped on your desk.

[Poiuyt]

4. Now THAT'S a setup I could live with

Of course, my desk is messier than his.

[ProgressiveFool]

6. wow, that pic makes me want him for president even more

he's a kindred soul! a nerd with too much stuff! I'll bet he knows exactly where everything is, too.

[StarryNite]

7. Oh my gosh!

I love that guy!

[meegbear]

9. Get a PC!!

[Ezlivin]

10. One 30" monitor is enough for me

Maybe Al hasn't heard of tabbed browsing or using Exposé?

I code in CSS/XHTML/Javascript/PHP all day long and always have several windows open. A single 30" monitor is fantastic for this (and using Final Cut).

Of course I've spent the last several years decreasing my energy consumption (my 30" monitor uses less energy than the 22" CRT it replaced, for example).

Hmmmm.

[jgraz]

19. heh -- once you have two you'll never go back

Just like time, work expands to fill all the monitor space you have.

[SteelPenguin]

44. Absolutely Agree.

I worked off one coding and designing for most of my life, and while I'd seen other people with setups, I made the same excuses. Recently I got a monitor switch and now have my secondary monitor set up to be a dual monitor but I can press a button and be on my server if I need to do anythign to it.

Working with two monitors is something that once you start it becomes very hard to go back. In fact now I want to get some larger ones, and those 30" ones look nice. ;)

[nashville_brook]

52. basically mandatory for video editing

[jgraz]

65. Try debugging video editing software

Final Cut Pro on one screen, Xcode on the other. Two monitors was barely enough.

[Occulus]

108. Or modeling/animation

Maya/3Ds/Lightwave/Blender on one, Photoshop/GIMP on another, Mudbox in a third space....

The entire pipeline, at your fingertips...

I love the idea of triplehead displays. Just the idea.

The geek in me cheers :D

[joefree1]

115. Or entertainment design

Monitor one - reference materials and sketches
Monitor two - central design area
Monitor three - tool sets, calendar, notes, IM window

Actually though I still only got one monitor cause I travel too much. But some day ...

[Deja Q]

125. Apple has tabbed browsing or allows people to use energy efficiently?

No freakin' way! :wow:



Yes, one 30" LCD uses less energy than one 22" CRT. But Al uses THREE of them. At once. The electricity cost adds up. "Three for just over the price of one" is still using the same amount of energy; maybe Al is answering a question nobody has asked yet*... Add in that TV too that he's not even looking at. Even I, a nobody who doesn't write books on saving energy, know how to turn off things I don't use.

* When people find things that use less or are less, do they not buy more to compensate? Eating 3 low fat hot dogs instead of one big one?

Al's just human. Making money the way we all should be.

[IChing]

131. whatever..............

[KittyWampus]

11. 2 Words> Filing. Cabinets.

[BlooInBloo]

14. They're full. :)

[KittyWampus]

17. :-D

:loveya:

[Lisa]

41. my guess is that the photographer is leaning back against a row of them!

The stuff on the desk is "in use" -- he's working on it, or wants it out in view so it will remind him of things he's got to do.

(inferred from how my own filing system works!)

[KittyWampus]

73. LISA! How the heck are you? Haven't seen you posting in a very long time.

[frogcycle]

103. stuff in file cabinets might as well be in a black hole

horizontal surfaces are MEANT to be piled high with stuff.

I just keep a corner of the desk sort of clear so I can put my feet there

[Atman]

12. Freakin' AWESOME.

If I had Al's money, I'd have 'em, too. I'm not going to dis him for this. It's a sweet setup, and anyone who says otherwise is in total denial. Come on...admit it...not a one of you wouldn't take this set up if you could afford it, had the space for it...or knew why it is so useful.

.

[SharonRB]

15. I'm jealous of that monitor setup!

I'm a graphics designer, and I sure could use that screen space sometimes. Of course, I'd never have room for that many screens in my office.

[Elwood P Dowd]

18. Bush needs to visit and show Al how to operate that thing.

He's an expert on those internets.

[SammyWinstonJack]

67. "The Google"

:evilgrin:

[NYCGirl]

69. VP Gore knows about "the Google"; he's a senior advisor to it!

:evilgrin:

[glitch]

20. AS IF I needed another reason to adore Al Gore! Thanks for posting. nt

[IChing]

21. Anyone know what channel he has on TV?

Is that his channel Current TV?

[RandiFan1290]

64. Yep, sure is!

:)

[mainegreen]

22. Makes me miss the old 3 screen setup I had. A developers dream.

One of my screen got 'appropriated' and I'm down to 2 now.
:(

[NJCher]

25. Internet expands to fill the screen/tabs allowed for it

If I thought I had an addiction problem with one monitor, imagine what it would be with three.



Cher

[porphyrian]

26. Pile organization - my style. - n/t

[ms liberty]

27. K&R. I love this photograph...

This is the photo of a 21st Century Renaissance Man. A man who thinks, reads, and takes action.

And he's got 3 screens AND the TV on, fer Gawds sake!!! I don't just love this photo, I love this man!

[jhain]

29. Al has INTERNETS!! n/t

[sueh]

30. Is that Buzzflash on the first screen on our left??

Al, make sure you bring all of that into the Oval Office, okay??

[quiet.american]

56. I noticed that, too! n/t

[Dora]

31. NOW, THAT'S A WORKING MAN!!!

I've never seen Shrub with more than a pencil and a piece of paper. What a brainless piece of twaddle he is.

Now this picture - this shows a MAN who READS, a MAN who THINKS, a MAN of IDEAS and of IDEALS!

Shrub has no idea what hard work is.

The man in this picture, he knows all about it. He's got my vote, if he wants it.

[DS1]

32. And a tv blaring on in the background. Ever hear of an off-switch?

:hide:

[NYCGirl]

33. He owns a cable station. He's allowed to watch!

:evilgrin:

Edited to add smilie

[IndyOp]

35. How do you know it is blaring? Can you hear the picture?

:scared:

[JNelson6563]

96. Must be one of those

turn-it-down-I-can't-see people. ;-)

Juile

[Pirate Smile]

101. I love my mute button, perhaps Al does as well.

[cyberpj]

120. It's his own CURRENT TV Citizen Video network. He's allowed. nt

[mondo joe]

36. Now we need a Bush and Gore "I'm a Mac" "And I'm a PC" commercial.

:hide:

[FVZA_Colonel]

51. Oh, now that's just not fair.

As a PC user, I resent that association.



I will say one thing about them: the fact that they got John "Areas of My Expertise" Hodgeman for them is a true coup for Apple.

[lildreamer316]

87. DUzy worthy post^^^^ n/t

[SoCalDem]

93. PC to Bush would be a phone cord

:)

[Oldtimeralso]

112. No, GWB would wonder why they left the last P off. n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

99. No, Gore is a technologically advanced non brand-specific machine based on scientific fact

And Bush is some kind of fucked up superstitious voodoo curse.

[Deja Q]

123. Don't get me started on the misadvertising in those commercials.

n/t

[IChing]

133. whatever..............

[supernova]

37. I don't feel so bad

about my desk now, looking at Big Al's! :rofl:

People with clean desks have empty minds. ;-)

[Elwood P Dowd]

47. Mine is a mess, but not as big as Al's.

Plus, I only have a little Apple iBook and a old 15" iMac. The last time I cleand it up and organized everything, I couldn't find anything. I was so use to my little piles of books and papers.

[loudsue]

48. LOL! Then my mind is coming out my ears!

I LOVE THAT PICTURE!!! That's the desk of someone who is TOTALLY engaged. What a refreshing view. It's good to know there's still life out there somewhere!!

:kick::kick::kick:

[Lisa]

38. anyone remember the "desk comparison" pics in Biography magazine, fall 2000?

Gore's desk looked just like that -- lots of books, papers, children's artwork, cool gizmos, and interesting rocks, feathers, etc.

Bush's desk was VACANT, except for a couple of slim reports and a baseball!

I've always felt that those pictures were extremely revealing. By the way, my desk looks more like Gore's.

[BlooInBloo]

42. I did a google image search for a good gw-desk pic a few hours ago for this thread....

.... I was gonna post the contrast. Couldn't find a good one though. :(

[Lisa]

45. someone on the internets has got to have a copy of Biography (Sept or Oct 2000?)

I'll check out the library if I have time today.

[BlooInBloo]

55. Coolness.

[Cha]

84. I'm picturing bushit's

desk free and clear..he doesn't do any work. his handlers just gotta make sure he gets down for his nap on time or he gets crankier than usual.

[eppur_se_muova]

71. A clean desk is a sign of a sick mind. nt

[Lisa]

165. and a vacant desk is a sign of a ...

Well, we're taking about Bush here -- it's obvious!

[Rob H.]

40. Hey! He has a piling system just like mine!

Too bad I don't have a desk o' monitors like his, though. :P

[jelly]

138. "Piling system" I love it.

Join the club, and check out this article, which made me feel better about my piling ways. Turns out we're very productive worker. :toast:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/Careers/04/30/cb.mess/

[Rob H.]

145. Thanks for the link!

I may pick up the book mentioned in the article. My mom actually sent me a similar article about six weeks ago that said much the same thing, but since she was a neatnik when I was a kid and I so wasn't, naturally I had to give her a little grief about how she used to get onto me to clean my room all those years ago. :)

[rosesaylavee]

43. Is that DU he's reading?

(just kidding)

Love this man - please run for office Al?!

[piedmont]

170. Drudge Report. nt

[kiteinthewind]

46. That's my President!

:toast:

[tridim]

49. Wouldn't using only one monitor use 2/3 less electricity?

Someone had to say it. :)

[jayctravis]

109. You'd be surprised how efficient Macs are.

I got an iMac, and I swear I've never heard a fan run.

Those are mondo Apple Cinema Displays, but they're flat panel, and OSX is really well designed. You can set the displays to shut down after five minutes of inactivity.

When the screens are that big, you can spread full-size documents out all in a row...similar to the messy desk, only he's not using paper.

[jmowreader]

50. I'd make three changes

First, ditch the damn fax machine. Get a cheap PC--this is a dedicated box, so a PC is fine here--put a fax program, a scanner and a 19" monitor on it, and use that as a fax server. Paperless faxing is Good.

Second, all three of those monitors would be hanging off different Macs if this was my rig.

And third, I'd put the television next to the three Cinema displays.

But other than that, it is a very sweet setup. ('Course, I'd want a few other items--like a 12x18 color laser printer, a PowerFile DVD-ROM jukebox, a 60-inch HP DesignJet 5500 inkjet printer for running seditious posters in small runs, a Nikon slide scanner...)

[Scout1071]

53. The fax is probably a dual printers.

[Elwood P Dowd]

54. You forgot the complete 7.1 home theater rig

with double 24" subwoofers.

[jmowreader]

61. Not on my computer, Elwood

Over in the room with the top-shelf DVD player and the Barco ELM-12 projector, yeah I'd have 7.1 sound. But on my computer? I don't play games, so I can't imagine why I'd WANT my error chimes to come out in full octaphonic sound.

[Dukkha]

62. I tried your way

The multiple keyboards and mice make it too cluttered and multiple CPUs consume energy and make the room louder too. The dedicated scan/fax workstation is a good idea. But I'd ditch the TV altogether. With that setup you just need an HDTV receiver and an A/B switcher for one of the displays. I run two displays like that with a VGA TV tuner attached to one. I spend so many hours on the Mac I like having Stewart & Colbert on the other display keeping me company.

[planetc]

57. By comparison with our manager's office,

this man is a neat freak.

[Dukkha]

58. Steve Jobs probably gave him those monitors too.

as an incentive to run in 2008.
"Like many others, I have tried my best to convince him. So far, no luck."

that is my dream setup. He's probably got a new 3.0GHz 8-core Intel Xeon Mac too.

[NYCGirl]

60. And, if I remember correctly, the first public call made from an iPhone was

to Al Gore (at the iPhone launch).

[gatorboy]

59. Sure, when the camera's on.

When they leave it's Halo time! :P

[CabalPowered]

63. I peg him as a Civ 3 kind of guy

maybe some Age of Empires.

[gatorboy]

66. Maybe Halo's a little extreme for the Gorester.

With that set-up, Microsoft Flight Simulator would look pretty nice though!

[Swamp Rat]

68. He's got more computers, but I have a LOT more books!

... and a messier office. :D

[rndmprsn]

70. wow...i want those!

[Guaranteed]

72. Is it just me, or is he looking thinner in that pic?

Is it recent?

The chin is rising, rising....

[Clark2008]

76. I love geeks.

Wait'll I show my husband THIS desk.

Al makes us look less like the nerds we are!

:loveya:

Smart is sexy.

[blogslut]

77. soo jealous

am I

[alfredo]

78. He just got reelected to the Apple Board.

[LittleClarkie]

81. Holy Guacamole. I didn't even know there was such a thing

And a fellow Apple user! Yea!

[MonkeyFunk]

83. I don't see how anyone

can look at that much porn at once.

[RevCheesehead]

88. Yay! His office is as cluttered as mine!!

I am in good company. :)

[kskiska]

91. Contrast *'s work area

[Dukkha]

142. look closer on his desk. there's something there alright

[Lisa]

166. note the failed effort at a paper airplane in the first pic

George -- you're supposed to FOLD it. (Doesn't know how, or too lazy?)

[Downtown Hound]

92. That looks like Buzzflash on the left

I wonder if he reads DU?

[Poiuyt]

94. Here's Al's old office

Nicer book case. ca 1995

[IChing]

104. Same style different technnology....A working man's desk..thanks n/t

[sellitman]

95. That's waaaaaaaaay cool.

Just like I'd like my President to be.

Run Al, Run.

[earth mom]

97. I betcha DU's on his favorites list!

O8)

[frogcycle]

105. yeah, he's reading this thread

RIGHT NOW and yukking it up over all of our envy and adoration

[Warren DeMontague]

98. To quote the late Bill Hicks "Looks like we got us a READER"

Can't have that. :sarcasm:

[OnionPatch]

116. LOL

Round up the pitchforks! :rofl:

[cyberpj]

124. I miss Bill HIcks so much! But I'm afraid, after how he felt about Daddy Bush,

he might have gone ballistic having to watch Boy George doing the exact same things and the average American Joe not only still taking it but lining up behind him and waving flags this time. (At least, until recently anyway.)

Watch some of his old political stuff, he pegged 41 for the exact same crap (only several degrees worse) 43 got away with.

[progressoid]

100. What?? He's reading the latest on Paris Hilton?

[Qutzupalotl]

106. WANT

[Roxy66]

107. Thats his very own "Current T.V." on in the background....

Anyone watch that channel? I do. It's really a great source of info. People send in their own movies.

[cyberpj]

119. I love CURRENT TV. Citizen Videos. Very Creative and Informative.

I leave it on while working throughout the day - they give you a 4-at-a-time listing of what's coming up so you can be there when something of particular interest comes up but you'd be surprised how good the vids are. I believe they're also available for podcasts if you're into that. There have even been some great political cartoons.

[Deja Q]

129. Which proves that picture is not only a waste of energy, it's an advertisement.

Which, in a word: Petty.

I didn't notice that was *his* channel. I did notice it was on while he was ignoring it, concentrating on one of three monitors.

Why does he keep digging the hole he's his deeper?

[IChing]

136. whatever..............

[trumad]

154. Jesus Chist in a hand bag you're a fucking idiot.

[Norrin Radd]

111. He needs three screens to properly monitor his invention.

;)

[Brundle_Fly]

114. he sits on apples board

So he gets some pretty great perks it would appear

[L. Coyote]

118. Indicates multi-tasking capability and consequent display needed for same

Imagine how the Oval office will change. Instead of three comic books....

[Deja Q]

127. I multitask and sure as heck don't need 3 LCD monitors, the electrical cost of which

outweighs any 19" CRT, by far.

Al is more intelligent. I just have problems with his veracity.

And in light of recent events, he'll be cremated in any debates. He really should NOT run if he cares about the country. He'd lose. Maybe not to John McCain, but he'd lose.

[IChing]

130. Whatever..............

[rug]

121. On the other hand . . . .

[cyberpj]

126. You can't fool me. There's a coloring book out of camera view. Or maybe a comic book. nt

[Norrin Radd]

168. Now, now--no bashing of comic books.

Most contemporary comic books are written by liberals, or have our viewpoint.

[Deja Q]

122. Each one costs $2000 at CompUSA. More fun info about LCD technology,

the cold cathode tube that lights the backlight has an average lifespan of 5 years.

Also, can't he turn off the tv set and have it play the audio only? That's what I do, and I'm not a world-renowned "environmentalist". I do lots of environmentally friendly things.

Sheesh, his office is far more a fire hazard than mine will ever be - and I ain't no neatnick.

Al's rich. Buying a proper eyeglasses prescription would allow him to use normal 19" monitors like the rest of us. :evilgrin:

http://www.badapplebiz - FACTS on Apple's green history, of which Apple joined their boardi n 2003. If he was arguing against Steve Jobs' disregard for THIS long over environmental waste, I'd have quit by now. But then, the initial iPod battery backlash came from consumers. Not Al Gore. The site says it all and I'm more inclined to believe it at this point.

Sorry to rail on the guy and maybe I'm too much in the opposite direction, but blind love of him is equally misplaced.

[IChing]

128. Whatever..............

[Elwood P Dowd]

137. Resident DU Apple haters

Whenever there is a post about Apple, Steve Jobs, or Al Gore's relationship with Apple, they will come on here and make multiple negative Apple posts.

[zalinda]

147. How do you turn off your TV and play audio only?

If you turn off your TV, doesn't that mean that no sound comes through it? That's the way it works on mine. I often "watch" TV while I work, it's more of a listen, but when something comes up that I know I want to see, I stop what I'm doing and watch it.

If you're "watching" CSPAN, don't you want to take a look sometimes and see who the idiot is that is talking? Or stop and pay close attention to someone who is making a valid argument?

When I'm working I have multiple windows open and putting data in one program after another, plus keeping an eye out for an important email coming in. Three monitors would me so nice instead of resizing windows all the time, as you go from one program to another. At any one time I could easily have 6 programs running at the same time and sometimes taking data from one program to put in another, begs to have at least 2 windows open side by side, especially if you have to type in the data. Data workers know exactly what I mean.

zalinda

[Divine Discontent]

162. oh, Sweet Jesus, he's still going on and on about Gore's monitors

ya know, if he WASN'T in the fuggin room, and he took them in there to see his workspace and it was all on, I could understand your throwing a HISSY FIT, but you sound A) Insane B) Like A Jackass C) The Essence of What a Repuke Would Say D) On Ignore List From Here On Out

I love that the on DUer kept putting "whatever....." to each of your ramblings. GO OUTSIDE AND BREATHE AND RELAXXXXX..

[gauguin57]

139. I'll bet GWB has a desk so clean you can park a Harrier jump jet on it!

I don't trust people with clean desks.

But I LOVE me some Al (and Tipper)!!!

[uberllama42]

140. I can't believe you people have such a collective crush on this guy

I liked his movie too, but he is a massive hypocrite. He obviously isn't making any effort to reduce his own consumption of energy or his use of paper. By the way, Apple has one of the worst environmental records of any tech company, and there's no indication that Gore has used his position on their board to push for a greener company. Board decisions are usually unanimous against environmental protection.

I can't abide this kind of hero worship. I respect what he's doing as an advocate, but he simply doesn't walk the walk. He's as big a hypocrite as anybody in the Bush Administration, and he has similar ties to Big Business. I hope you all realize that the FReepers are probably laughing pretty hard at you right now.

I don't envy Al Gore's triple-monitor set-up. If it wasn't a requirement at my school, I probably wouldn't even have this computer. Our lifestyle is killing the planet, and Al Gore clearly isn't doing anything to find an alternative. He uses massive amounts of energy at his home, flies in a private jet, goes through reams of paper in his office. I don't see any reason to worship him and I'm not voting for him if he runs for president.

[IndyOp]

141. It's not about reducing energy use, it is about using clean energy to do

whatever you need to do once you have reduced your energy in ways that still let you have a life. They are putting solar panels on their home, own the most efficient appliances, have a solar water heater, have insulated to the hilt... They drive hybrid cars and he travels on regular airplanes with regular people instead of buying or chartering his own plane to save energy.

We do not need to get rid of our computers - we need to make them out of materials that aren't toxic, build them to last a long, long time, and we need to power them with the sun and wind and water energy.

If the Freepers are laughing pretty hard at us -- then they don't understand what he is advocating either. Do you really want people to buy into Freeper logic: "We either live comfortably and continue to spew out pollutants or we have to give up everything we enjoy now and go back to living in caves?" That is a false dichotomy and it is a huge part of the problem we are having right now having a national/international conversation.

We have EVERYTHING we need right now - in terms of technology - to continue to live comfortably and reduce carbon emissions by 90% by 2030. All we need is the will -- spend money on greening our nation and our planet instead of on the military.

[uberllama42]

149. You make a good point about doing what needs to get done

It's an easy soundbite that Gore uses 20 times as much energy as the average American, but it's more complicated than that. If he has a staff of 15 people on that farm all helping him to work against global warming, then the energy is well spent. If, as I suspect, he is consuming that energy for his personal use, there is no justification being even more wasteful than the average person.

On second thought, I think I have heard that Gore uses commercial airliners. Nancy Pelosi is the one who takes criticism for her private jet. That was a mistake on my part.

I also agree that the "Wasteful 21st Century vs. Green Stone-Age" is a false dichotomy, but I don't think it's possible to have it both ways. In my view, we need to combine lifestyle changes and alternative energy sources to hash out a sort of middle way. The current paradigm of middle-class American life is just not sustainable, even with innovations in solar, wind, and nuclear energy, considering that growing numbers of people in China and India (combined population 8 times that of the U.S.) are trying to achieve the same lifestyle.

[calteacherguy]

146. Gore has been an important advocate, but you do make some valid points.

If he "walked the walk," he'd be an even stronger advocate.

Another thing I disagree with Gore about is his refusual to acknowledge that the only way to address global warming is to use renewables, alternatives, conservation, AND nuclear energy, at least in the near term. It's a blind spot of his, and sadly it diminishes his integrity on his global warming crusade.

[Downtown Hound]

151. I'm curious

Do you expect Al Gore to be an internationally renowned activist and speaker by writing only on a portable chalkboard, riding a bicycle around, and wearing hemp clothing? The man is a prominent figure and needs to be able to get around quickly. He also needs to be taken seriously by the business and mainstream crowds. Do you have any idea what his schedule is probably like? He travels more in a month than most of us do in a lifetime. The man needs a private jet to get around. He is a former vice president for Christ's sake. Do you think he can just hop on a passenger plane like the rest of us can? Sure, after the secret service searches it for bombs and frisks all of the passengers to see if they pose any danger to him. Yeah, I'm sure all the other passengers would love that. Oh excuse me, according to you, he can't fly, I forgot. If he does, he's a hypocrite. Maybe he could just take trains around? Oh well, he'd have to go through all of the same things there, and he wouldn't be able to get to any of his many meetings in time. But hey, I guess as long as he's living up to your standards, that's what's really important, right? Who cares if we lose one of the most prominent figures and spokesmen we have in the fight against global warming because he can't travel anymore or use lots of paper or run three computer screens at once? What's far more important is that Al Gore give up what is ultimately a small carbon footprint in the grand scheme of global warming so that he can wear deerskin and live in a tree because it makes you happy. Yeah, people are sure to take him seriously then.

:eyes:


Al Gore has done more to raise the issue of global warming than anybody else on the planet, hands down. Now, answer me honestly, do you really think he could have done this by giving up all of his computers and his jet and turning himself into some fucking live-off-the-land hippie? Do you really? The answer to global warming isn't going to come from us giving up our cars and our computers and returning to a primitive state. That is not going to happen, so get that idea out of your mind. Humans are not going to go back to the stone age. End of story. The answer is alternative fuels, alternative power, alternative resources, increased recycling, and a serious, global effort to slow down the massive population boom that is straining our resources. And if Al Gore has to run a mother fucking thousand computer screens to get this message out to people all from the comfort of a private jet, then he will have my complete support. And he should have yours too.

[Straight Shooter]

155. Thank you, Downtown Hound.

:thumbsup:

Jesus would be crucified by some people here if he ran as a Democrat, because some way or another they'd point out that he's a hypocrite in whatever aspect of his life.

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Let me take this opportunity to say that I sent this pic to a friend of mine today with the messsage, "I will NEVER apologize for my messy office again!" :D

[Chovexani]

160. Here, here

Thank you for injecting some Earth logic here. I'll be quoting that second paragraph of yours to every lame ass who keeps repeating the repuke talking points. :thumbsup:

[NYCGirl]

153. FYI:

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/ByteOfTheApple/blog/archives/2007/05/how_green_is_th.html

http://www.ecorazzi.com/?p=2407

http://www.apple.com/hotnews/agreenerapple/

[Elwood P Dowd]

164. Thanks for the links. Resident DU Apple haters now trashing Gore

because of his relationship with the company.

[uberllama42]

171. Thanks for the info

But the first two articles contradict each other. The first says that Apple's green efforts were in the pipeline before they became a target of environmental acivists, and the second says that their current and future programs are in response to this criticism. Do you know which one is right?

[calteacherguy]

143. O.K., now I don't feel so bad about my desk.

:-)

[nadinbrzezinski]

144. that looks like my ofce, except for the puter

[democrat2thecore]

150. Stacker/Filer debate: We know Al is a stacker!

I am as well......makes me think of the book "An Organized Mess" (I think that's the title).

[Octafish]

152. Al deserves them.

I love his desk, with all the papers and stuff going on. It shows the guy actually works.

Unlike someone who stole his job in government...

[fooj]

163. LOL!! Looks like a Saturday Night Live skit...

Phony little rat bastard...


Here's a pic of an AUTHENTIC American patriot...

[Horse with no Name]

159. I wonder if he stole part of the Presidential china there on the shelf

;)
Ought to get the freepers talking.:rofl:

[Chovexani]

161. I love that man a little more every day

That looks like my cube, lol. Except the 30" ACDs. SO JEALOUS. Talk about Setup of the Gods.

Geeks are so hot (not that I'm biased!). :loveya:

[SunDrop23]

167. Very cool, thanks for the pic! Yaaaaay Apple! and Al!

[JI7]

169. now THAT is what i consider Presidential

you will never see the ignorant monkey creature in something like this.