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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 12:34 PM
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Ben Stein and fellow sub-super-richies are crying about having their temporary tax break taken away
Follow the links to marvel over what a sniveling bunch of wienies the wealthy in America can be:




http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/ben-stein-paying-for-his-sins-by-living.html

Living In Hell In Beverly Hills

by digby


Another wealthy, whining conservative telling everyone how good he has it while complaining that he has to pay taxes. Here's Ben Stein:

I am a fairly upper income taxpayer. Not anything even remotely close to sports stars or movie stars or financial big boys. But I am above the level Mr. Obama says makes me rich. So, in the midst of a severe recession, I am to have my taxes raised dramatically.

I am not quite sure what my sin is.

I worked for almost every dollar I have, except for a small percentage my parents left me by virtue of hard work and Spartan living, and most of that was taken by the federal estate tax. I have a hell of a lot less than I did before the stock market and real estate market crashes. I didn't get a bailout or any part of a stimulus program, except for traffic jams as the roads in Beverly Hills got worked on for the 10th time in the last 10 years (or so it seems).

I pay my income taxes, and after them and the commissions I pay my agent, I am left with about 35 cents for every dollar I earn.

I own some real estate in California and Idaho and the District of Columbia. Naturally, I pay property tax, supposedly mostly to educate local children. Not far from me, the city of Los Angeles just spent about $600 million to build the most lavish school in America for about 4,000 children. That's my money. Naturally, I had no say in it. My wife and I have no children in public schools and only did for about eighteen months long ago. I still pay my school tax ever year.




As far as I'm concerned, his "sin" is being a spoiled, talentless, arrogant cartoon celebrity who adds no value to anything in this misbegotten society and yet thinks he's some kind of Galtian hero. If I have to listen to one more of these petulant scumbags argue about how they're being punished for their "hard work" I'm going to stab my ears with chopsticks. It's class warfare all right --- launched by crude, wealthy American slobs who have no class.

For a far more erudite and scholarly critique than this one, please read Brad DeLong's deft evisceration of that sniveling University of Chicago professor's self-pity party from yesterday about having to pay taxes on half a million dollars a year. Here's just a little taste:


Professor Henderson's problem is that he thinks that he ought to be able to pay off student loans, contribute to retirement savings vehicles, build equity, drive new cars, live in a big expensive house, send his children to private school, and still have plenty of cash at the end of the month for the $200 restaurant meals, the $1000 a night resort hotel rooms, and the $75,000 automobiles. And even half a million dollars a year cannot be you all of that.

But if he values the high-end consumption so much, why doesn't he rearrange his budget? Why not stop the retirement savings contributions, why not rent rather than buy, why not send the kids to public school? Then the disposable cash at the end of the month would flow like water. His problem is that some of these decisions would strike him as imprudent. And all of them would strike him as degradations--doctor-law professor couples ought to send their kids to private schools, and live in big houses, and contribute to their 401(k)s, and also still have lots of cash for splurges. That is the way things should be.




Read on to see why this fellow feels cheated because he can't live like Richard Branson when he clearly deserves to. Me, I'll be sharpening my pitchfork. After all, according to these people I've got nothing to lose.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 12:40 PM
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1. Whiney chickenhawk republicons get a dose of compassionate conservativism
Edited on Mon Sep-20-10 12:41 PM by SpiralHawk
doodley squat.

Grab a kleenex and go count up your dividends, Ben, then cease and disist with the your RepubliWhining. It is so unseemly.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 12:46 PM
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2. Pathetic...just f**kin pathetic...
:nopity:
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 12:53 PM
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3. Toughen up, Stein...
...ya lousy, pampered cream puff.

Take it like a man.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 01:01 PM
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4. whiners, fraudsters, entitlement junkies
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 01:03 PM
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5. Benny: Stick it to the man
Fed'ral gummint wants to take an additional 3 cents of every dollar you "earn" over $250,000? Fuck 'em, buddy. Fuck 'em real good. Just refuse to make anything more than $250,000 next year. In fact, just refuse any remuneration at all. God, won't that send those bitches into a crying jag! No more of Ben Stein's money available to run things and hand money over to welfare queens. Jesus, Mary and Joseph, wouldn't that just serve America right?

Do it, Ben. Do it for America. Come on.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 01:04 PM
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6. "I am not quite sure what my sin is"
Well Mr. Stein.. the poor, jobless, working class, uninsured, underfed, ignored, disabled, and homeless have been asking themselves that question EVERYDAY for the past 30+ years. However you haven't bothered to hear them once.

You on the other hand will still have a career, a paycheck, health care, not one but three homes over your head and lots and lots of luck! Sure - you may not get to travel as often as you would like to or get to save up for that fourth little shack, but somehow, we think you'll survive.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 01:06 PM
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7. bennie does ads for the "credit report" scam -- not only an entitled creep, but one who
Edited on Mon Sep-20-10 01:06 PM by Hannah Bell
doesn't mind scamming the poor to stay entitled.

no sympathy for the fraudster.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 03:37 PM
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18. I couldn't agree more. n/t
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 01:11 PM
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8. As if being famous for calling out "Beuhler" in monotone or hawking whatever it is he and
Shaq sell is SUCH HARD WORK.

Ben, try working multiple jobs to pay the rent, and wondering if you have enough to buy your kids school supplies instead of wondering which one of your multiple homes you won't be able to redecorate or which richy-rich school trip to Europe your kids might have to skip. Get over your fool self.
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ThomThom Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 01:23 PM
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9. Someone should tell him if we give tax breaks at the lower end of the scale
he gets to be apart of it.
Also the tax breaks were suppose to trickle down and boost a sagging economy. We all know that the results were a near depression and a near collapse of the world economy.
Someone should ask him what he did with his tax break. Create any jobs?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 01:26 PM
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10. I saw that poor little rich baby's sob-athon on CBS Sunday Morning
I couldn't quite feel for the poor little fellow.

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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 01:39 PM
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11. I guess it's human nature?
Instead of being grateful for getting to enjoy the breaks he did all the years he did, with the understanding the whole time he was getting them that those breaks would would be set to expire at a specific time, this guy wants to pretend they were always there and will always be his "due".

Unfortunately, I've seen people with the same attitude over smaller scale things in my personal life. You go out of your way to do them a favor one time and then they seem to think it's the natural order of things forever more.
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 02:04 PM
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12. +1 for your definition of his "sin." n/t
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 02:14 PM
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13. Wonderful! That will make it all that much more pleasurable when the tax breaks do go away.
Hey, Ben, nyah nyah nyah!

;-)
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 02:20 PM
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14. I love this sentence from the deuchebag
"I worked for almost every dollar I have, except for a small percentage my parents left me by virtue of hard work and Spartan living, and most of that was taken by the federal estate tax."

1. "I worked for almost every dollar I have".....who hasn't you deuche?

2. "....hard work and Spartan living"......who hasn't lived a spartan life for a while? You, you double deuche.

3. "....was taken by the federal estate tax."....In order to have an estate tax levied against you, the estate has to be worth millions. Annnnnd the rare triple deuche....all in ONE sentence.

:puke: :puke: :puke:
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 02:43 PM
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16. I think it should be quadruple or quintuple
considering this "I worked for almost every dollar I have"

What work? The "work" of making ads should not really be compared to actual work. Hey Ben, come do my job for just one week. If you even could, you puny little pusbag. Wood tables are only 60 pounds each and there are about 50 of them in the gym right now. How about YOU set them up and tear them down and put up 130 folding chair while you are at it. And that is just two hours of your 8 hour day, for which you make a whopping $110 BEFORE taxes.

Now why don't you tell me how hard you worked on those "free triple score dot com" ads? And how much did you make for all that hard work?
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 02:28 PM
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15. And he'll lose none of his properties or things.
Edited on Mon Sep-20-10 02:28 PM by lunatica
But all his whining will make him more enemies. I didn't like him before. Now I actively despise him.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 03:03 PM
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17. I'll make a deal with Ben
He can live on my income and pay my taxes for one year if I can live on his income and pay his taxes for one year.

He might be surprised to learn that my taxes will be going up under the Republican plan. Maybe he can complain about that, too.
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