Gingrich: Obama's Hawaiian birth "had nothing to do about anything except his mind." HUH?

[Amerigo Vespucci]

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/transcript/gingrich-tea-party-power-and-039kenyan-anti-colonial039-worldviews?page=2

VAN SUSTEREN: Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich is taking heat for something he said about President Obama. We asked him about it.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

VAN SUSTEREN: "Kenyan anti-colonial worldview" -- now, what in the world does that mean?

(LAUGHTER)

VAN SUSTEREN: And that's where you said that the president -- what did you mean? And is there any sort of -- you know (INAUDIBLE) you know, there's a lot of that sort of Kenyan stuff, people are critical, saying that he wasn't born in the United States, and we've got that whole sort of movement -- he was born in Hawaii, incidentally. Why did you -- why did you say that and what do you mean?

GINGRICH: Well, first of all, he was born in Hawaii.

(CROSSTALK)

VAN SUSTEREN: ... born in Hawaii.

GINGRICH: This had nothing to do about anything except his mind.

VAN SUSTEREN: But what is that, a "Kenyan anti-colonial"...

(CROSSTALK)

GINGRICH: Everybody who is interested in this and everybody who's read some whacked-out left-wing attack on me about this should read either Dinesh D'Souza's fine article in "Forbes" magazine or in 10 days should buy Dinesh D'Souza's new book, "The Roots of Obama's Rage." It's about a 230- page...

VAN SUSTEREN: Rage? R? Rage?

GINGRICH: Rage.

VAN SUSTEREN: OK.

GINGRICH: And -- and -- and D'Souza, who is from India, grew up in India, came to the United States, has a very similar understanding of third world attitudes and anti-colonialism, goes through -- it's a very fine book. And he basically makes the -- and raises the question, Why is no one -- you know, why are none of our elites willing to look at who Barack Obama is?

VAN SUSTEREN: What does that mean, though, "who he is"? I mean, like...

(CROSSTALK)

GINGRICH: He writes a book "Dreams From My Father."

VAN SUSTEREN: Right.

GINGRICH: OK. So why can't we ask the question, what were his dreams from his father? Who was his father? His father was from Kenya. I cited Kenya for a practical reason. It's a fact. His father was from Kenya.

VAN SUSTEREN: I can -- you know -- you know, it's hard for me to get too deep into that. I mean, it's, like, it sounds a little bit like -- I don't know, sophomorish to get into his mind. I'm more concerned as to why he can't get jobs for people, why he can't get the unemployment down...


GINGRICH: But I would argue he can't get jobs for people because the model he has in his mind is fundamentally flawed, doesn't work.

VAN SUSTEREN: Well, that may be something else, but is that a "Kenyan anti-colonial"...

GINGRICH: Well...

VAN SUSTEREN: What is that? First of all, what is that? Explain that to me.

GINGRICH: Dinesh D'Souza's argument, and this is -- the original quote was me talking to somebody from "National Review," saying, You ought to read Dinesh D'Souza's article.

VAN SUSTEREN: OK.

GINGRICH: I found it very insightful. Now, I think you can say three things about who -- about Barack Obama's worldview. Part of him is a Saul Alinsky community radical organizer, and you can read, you know, Alinsky's books and know what that means. Part of him is sort of the classic European socialist transmuted by Columbia and Harvard, and that explains a lot of the big government, big control, big bureaucracy stuff.

(CROSSTALK)

VAN SUSTEREN: ... everybody he hires in his administration are Harvard and Yale and University of Chicago...

GINGRICH: Right.

VAN SUSTEREN: And they all have the same worldview, which is essentially European socialism. And then part of him, I think, has picked up on this -- whether you want to say it's Indonesian and Kenyan or Franz Fanon from Algeria -- I mean, there is a broad anti-colonial model intellectually...

VAN SUSTEREN: But what is that? What -- explain -- maybe I'm not...

GINGRICH: OK...

VAN SUSTEREN: What is "anti-colonial model"?

(CROSSTALK)

VAN SUSTEREN: What does that mean?

GINGRICH: The anti-colonial model -- the anti-colonial model grew up in the 20th century as an intellectual model that basically said the European system is basically bad and the Americans are the inheritor of this basically bad system. And...

VAN SUSTEREN: But I thought he was European? I thought you were saying that (INAUDIBLE)

GINGRICH: No, he's a mix. He's a mix of three.

VAN SUSTEREN: OK.

GINGRICH: And I think somewhere in that three (INAUDIBLE) The only reason I raise it is, of all the presidents that I've watched and worked with in my lifetime, I find him the most complicated to try to understand, the most complicated to try to figure out, Why would you do that? Why would you pick fights that puts you on the opposite side from 70 percent of the American people? Why would you have a series of policies that you know are very unpopular?

VAN SUSTEREN: See, you know how I look at it? I must be very basic because I think (INAUDIBLE) OK, this is what you did, has it worked? You look at the graph. Do we have jobs or we don't have jobs?

GINGRICH: Fine.

VAN SUSTEREN: You know, like...

GINGRICH: Well, I...

VAN SUSTEREN: I guess I don't go that deep. And if we don't have jobs, you picked -- you picked the wrong idea, so we got to regroup.

GINGRICH: But part of the reason you have the tea party movement and part of the reason you're getting this surge of candidates is that there are two things together. There's a performance failure, the point you're making, 9.6 percent unemployment is unacceptable. And there's this deep sense many Americans have, as my younger daughter, who writes a column, Jackie Cushman (ph), wrote one time, We were told we were voting for change you could believe in and we found we were voting for somebody who wanted to change what we believe.

VAN SUSTEREN: Well, I actually think that the tea party movement sprung up because right at the get-go, he said, OK, this is what we're doing with the stimulus bill. Take it -- or you're going to get it, whether you like it or not.

GINGRICH: Right.

[Skittles]

1. Gingrich is skeered of the"angry black man"

yes INDEED

[MrScorpio]

12. Gingrich is speaking in Bullshitese, saying that Obama's the "angry black man"

We all need to whip out our Bullshit to English dictionaries whenever ol' Newton is opening his pie hole these days.

[Skittles]

19. to me what is super ironic

is - what RAGE? I'm waiting for the day Obama really truly DOES get super fucking ANGRY - yes INDEED :D

[Confusious]

15. No, he's not

He knows his pawns are though.

[butterfly77]

31. D'Souza is trying to say...

Obama isn't a real american when he wasn't even born here...WTF!!!!

[spanone]

2. psycho-babble

[gratuitous]

7. Yeah

Gingrich keeps deflecting direct questions, saying "read this" or "read that," but he can't be bothered to articulate just what it is he's talking about. There are plenty of dog whistle tropes (a Saul Alinsky community organizer) and veiled references that make those in his circle know that Gingrich is saying "not like us good Americans," but he just won't put it into words that everyone can understand. He's satisfied with signaling to his tribe rather than speaking plainly.

[dkf]

3. Lol this is so pathetic!

Obama barely saw his father nor Kenya and now they are more important than his mother, his grandparents who raised him for a considerable amount of his childhood and his home state?

[Ken Burch]

4. Is this the place to point out that independent Kenya has always had

one of the LEAST socialist economic systems in all of Africa?

[DCKit]

5. "All Three"? Really Newt? Alan Keyes is going to sue your ass for copyright infringement. n/t

[monmouth]

6. Sophomorish elevates that discussion. Got to give it to her though,

she kept after him. He, of course, had no answers,like Palin, word salad.

[JuniperLea]

8. What's wrong with being anti-colonial?

Isn't that why we're all in the USA to begin with? Isn't that why we fought a revolutionary war and stopped being a colony of Great Britain?

Newt the Kook is really grasping here... his babble is pathetic.

[Radical Activist]

9. It's really a shame that these questions about Obama's worldview are only raised by the right.

The consequence is that it's only discussed as a sort of red-baiting attack. I would be thrilled if Obama were anti-colonialist and I know he was influence by Saul Alinsky. When are we going to stop running away from these things and discuss it openly?

[Erose999]

33. And why do we let the Right use "Saul Alinsky" like an insult? Alinsky was not a villian, he was

a hero.

[Generic Other]

10. So does that mean Newt has a Klansmen CSA worldview?

Once an unreconstructed rebel always one?

How many generations does it take to rid oneself of one's inherited worldview?

Guess the wealthy class need to think about that too. How many revolutions does it take to wipe out the taint of Louis Bourbonism in one's worldview?

[Enthusiast]

26. Damn! PLUS ONE! nt

[Arkana]

11. Was Newt stoned?

Seriously, it's like he's trying to have both sides of the issue--either he thinks Obama is a Kenyan Marxist usurper or not.

[LiberalAndProud]

32. I'm thinking senile.

It happens to the best of us. Not that Newt was ever the best of us, or anything.

[Hieronymus]

13. Any whacko could derive anything from that conversation.

[blogslut]

14. Newt has lost his touch

From the man who changed the language of modern politics to a stumbling red-faced buffoon who slips and falls on his own bullshit.

[Ikonoklast]

16. I read that damn thing twice, and I still can't understand the psychobabble.

Gingrich needs to be drug-tested, he makes as much sense as a meth-head with the googy circular logic.


Van Susteren is just her usual loony Scientologist self, so no surprises there.

[Bitwit1234]

17. I guess because Newtie doesn't really have a mind

we can't compare him to anybody that does make sense.

[yurbud]

18. wow, he's lost it. Or he's hope that a Palin load of incoherence is his ticket back to office

[MadMaddie]

20. There it is Gingrich is hawking his piece of crap book....

I wonder which right wing group will buy tons of the books?

[kiranon]

21. It makes no sense because Newt doesn't understand or never

read the book for content only for quotes. He liked the sound of the quote about Kenyon anti-colonial view but really has no idea what it means. He didn't expect to get called on it. Frankly, he doesn't seem that smart. He knows how to disrupt politics but not how to build on ideas.

[Historic NY]

22. Boy, Newt is full of shit when he's called out,,I don't think he knows what he says.

[Swamp Rat]

23. Greta Van Gingrich

Watch out! You're next lady!



:D

[RandomThoughts]

24. People do not have to change what they believe.

But when they see what they already believe sometimes they do change what they do.



Most people that are really selfish, have to hide what they really believe by excuses. Things like thoughts of superiority can get a person to say someone else can not have freedom to choose something for themselves. Or feelings of fear or revenge can desensitize feelings of hurt for a presumed enemy.


If a person can be made numb, they can do what they would not do if they felt empathy.


Some people get feelings of fear to do that, or ideas of superiority. If those ideas don't work economic social isolation is sometimes used. Despair and hurting can also be used to try and get a person to not care about others, since each of those heightens feelings about taking care of self. That is also why lack of financial security, and lack of things like health security is needed for a security state, because a security state needs many people that do not care about each other to allow injustice.

But if you get a person to think and feel on who they are, they will usually want to help people when they can. Hence why blockers are put in to try and get people numb.

And why people are not trying to get other people to change what they feel and think, but to feel and from that they change how they think from education of what they already really think is best.

Note that there are things that are contently trying to get people to go numb and not feel also. So that is much of the conflict, one side trying to give people excuses to not feel empathy, but instead to hate or fear, for example,

and another side trying to get people to feel and think. Since if people find their heart they find empathy, and share others joy and sorrow, at the expense of some personal luxury or time spent to help people, they can also feel love from other people. While the numb person can hurt people without feeling.

Does that make sense?


Colonism for example was said to be because other groups were inferior and needed to be like the colonizers, in truth a few sociopaths whated to make money off them, and pushed excuses for people to put them in hardship.

Although the Colonist where not the only ones to do that, tribes in Africa also treated each other bad, as did tribes in the America. So the entire topic has nothing to do with colonialism, but more about how empathy circles are different sizes and are formed around someones self defined group that is like themselves.

To defend colonialism is to defend a better stature for a group over another group. That is what he is defending. It is done by the American exceptionalism myth, created by many groups, there is the idea of America as divine land spread in some groups, others use racism, some nationalism, but much of it comes from those thoughts.

And global governance groups want to end one country against another, but replace that with one class against another.

So the issue is not what groups, but how other people treat other groups.


So if a country has a 'there group first mentality' then use protectionism to say what your country buys is dependent on the values of who produces those items. don't use colonial rationals of 'if you can take it it is yours' because your group is superior, make the argument that it is for some ideas that you can explain as better.

So if a country has weak environmental laws, or worker protections, that is the reason, not because you want jobs at home, but because race to the bottom does not help anyone. His views are America is better, but without reason except that it makes America richer to not think about the reasons.

I don't know how he could write an entire book, without thinking on the topic, unless it is just a long string of self rationalizations.



Side note, I am still due beer and travel money and many good experience :)


Simple comment, people if they feel and think will not vote for tax cuts for the rich or exploitation of child labor in other countries. So they are given complex explanations. His arguments probably protect him from thinking on what his views cause. Hence his thoughts are blockers in his mind, since he is a good person that would not agree with his views without those rationals.

[Enthusiast]

25. There is no Obama 'rage'.

More Reich Wing mythology. This is the way the Righties and Fox News operate. They first establish a false notion like "Obama's Rage". Then they pontificate on these false notions to lend them credence.

Their followers watch and think, "Gee, these smart fellers like Mr. Gingrich are using big words I don't understand but I think they mean Obama hates us white Christian people." This is how the mythology is perpetuated.

This formula is so successful that it now would require brain surgery to remove the notion that Obama is a rage-filled Kenyan, America hating, secret Muslin.

[BurtWorm]

27. Just say it, racist Gingrich. You don't get Obama because he's a ... spit it out, racist!

:grr:

[old mark]

28. My SIL really thinks Gingrich is a wonderfup person and would be a great president...

"He's SO SMART!!!" she always says...evidently he attracts groupies, and people who actually believe he really gives a shit about the country, reality and truth.

Newt is a very narcissistic sociopath, and if he hadn't gone into politics he could have been a serial killer.


mark

[Javaman]

29. trying to define his tea bagging sound byte talking point, newty speaks with his ass.

that was nothing more than him trying to justify his half witted jackass remark.

He knows better, but has painted himself into the stupid corner to get the moron vote for his 2012 run.

So in essence, newty has lost his mind.

[BolivarianHero]

30. What a fucking wanker...

You ask him to explain his racism, and he peddles his buddy's book.