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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 06:13 PM
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Fascinating comparison of wealth in US vs Japan
Edited on Mon Sep-20-10 06:29 PM by SlipperySlope
I thought this was a fascinating graph. It compares the distribution of wealth by income quintile in the United States vs Japan.

As of 2004:

  • The richest 20% of US incomes controlled 63% of the wealth.
  • The poorest 20% of US incomes controlled 1% of the wealth.
  • The richest 20% of Japanese incomes controlled 34% of the wealth.
  • The poorest 20% of Japanese incomes controlled 13% of the wealth.

The graph appeared on the site zerohedge.com as part of a comparison between the US and Japanese economies. The point being made was how much better Japanese households were able to withstand a deflationary recession, because even the poorest 20% of Japanese households have significant savings to rely on.

The thing I found most interesting about this graph was that it is a nice visual representation of what a "fairer" distribution of wealth could look like, coming from a wealthy industrialized country.



*Note: This isn't an comparison of net worth by total wealth, it is a comparison of net worth by income. That is why it differs so much from other ways of measuring distribution of wealth.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 06:19 PM
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1. I think a comparison with Germany would be very similar.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-10 06:29 PM
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2. And With These Tax Rates, Sir
Note that the Yen is presently eighty-five to the Dollar.

http://www.worldwide-tax.com/japan/japan_tax.asp


Taxation of an individual's income in Japan is progressive.
In other words, the higher the income, the higher the rate of tax payable.
The tax rate for an individual in 2009 is between 5% - 40% There are reduced rates of tax for certain income earners.
Japan corporate tax in 2009 is currently fixed at 30% and, again, there is a reduced rate of tax for certain corporations it is important to point out that the effective tax, for individuals and corporations, is higher as a result of the other local taxes that exist in Japan.

Japan Individual Income Tax
An individual pays tax on his income as a wage-earner or as a self-employed person. Tax for an individual who meets the criteria of a "permanent resident" in Japan will be calculated on his income in Japan and abroad. A foreign resident who is employed in Japan pays tax only on income earned in Japan.
Generally speaking there are three classes of tax payers:

Permanent resident.
Non-permanent resident (those who have been living in Japan for less than five years).
Non-resident.


The following table shows Japan individual income tax rates for 2009:

Tax Base (Yen) Tax
1 - 1,950,000 5%
1,950,001-3,300,000 10%
3,300,001 - 6,950,000 20% of base exceeding 3,300,000
6,950,001-9,000,000 23% of base exceeding 6,950,000
9,000,001 - 18,000,000 33% of base exceeding 9,000,000
18,000,001 and over 40% of base exceeding 18,000,000


Notes:
1. The rates above are before 6% Japan municipal tax. And 4% prefectural tax, 10% in total.
2. Japan's individual income tax rates including local taxes are among the highest tax rates in the world. The effective top marginal tax rate is around 50%.
3. Non residents pay for salary income in Japan 20%.




Capital Gains
Capital gains for companies in Japan are added to regular income. The rate of tax imposed on capital gains is identical to the tax on regular income. Nevertheless, it important to point out the rate of tax on capital gains in the following instances:

Japan Capital gains from the sale of real estate
For individuals , gains from sale of real estate are taxed at 39% for short term gains and at 20% for long term gains .

Japan Capital gains from the sale of shares
The tax rate for shares traded by a company in Japan is 10% (7%-income tax, 3%-local tax).The tax rate for sale of other shares is generally 20%.

Japan Reporting Dates
The tax year in Japan is the calendar year ending on December 31st.

An Individual
An employee - as the individual's tax is deducted by his employer, there is no obligation to file an annual return for an income of less than 20 million yen per annum.
When an employee earns income from two sources, or additional income as a self-employed person in excess of 200,000 yen, he is obliged to file an annual return.
A self-employed person - is obliged to report and pay tax on income for the current year no later than March 15.
When the results for the previous year show a net tax obligation (as against tax deducted at source) of at least 150,000 yen, two advance payments must be made in the following year on July 31st and November 30th, each advance payment being 1/3 of the total net tax for the previous year.

A Company
A company is bound to report and pay within two months of the end of the tax year (it is usually possible to request an extension of an additional month).


Japan Corporate Tax
In 2009 Japan national corporate tax is 30%.
Corporate tax on income below 8 million yen is 22% on condition that the total equity is less than 100 million yen.
In addition to corporate tax (a national tax) there are two classes of local tax paid by the corporation:
1) Inhabitant Tax.
2) Enterprise Tax.
These two classes of local tax significantly increase the rate of Japan corporate tax, so that it may, in actual fact, reach 41%. 42% in Tokyo.
While Inhabitant Tax is not recognized as a deductible expense, "Enterprise Tax" may be deducted as an expense.
Income from a dividend - is not classed as regular income. A dividend received by one company from another Japanese company, when the holding in the payer's equity is 25% or more, only 50% of the dividend income will be added to the regular tax.






Japan Deduction of Tax at Source


Japan Taxation of Employees
Japan Income Tax
The employer is obligated to deduct tax at source from a salaried worker in accordance with the tax tables. The employer is obligated to pay the income tax to the authorities by the 10th of the month after the month of payment. When paying a salary to a foreign resident, 20% should be deducted at source.

Japan Social Security
The social security covers matters such as health insurance, pension insurance, unemployment insurance and more. The rates are as follows:

Employer - 13.255%
Employee - 12.375%

Dividend, Royalties and Interest in Japan
When payments of the following sorts are made to non- residents, deductions must be made at source at the following rates:

%
Dividend 20
Royalties 20
Interest 20


Japan Other Deductions




Benefits to senior employees - mainly bonuses and compensation paid to employees are allowable as an expense. Nevertheless, payments of unreasonable amounts to directors will not be allowed as an expense.
Entertainment expenses - the allowance on these expenses is calculated according to a formula that takes account of the amount of the company equity; the percentage allowed as an expense shall in no case exceed 90% of the expense, or a maximum of 3.6 million yen a year.
Donations - as a general rule, donations to public or government institutions are allowable as an expense.
Research and development - a credit of 20% is given for research and development plus additional credit for the excess of R&D expenses over those of the previous years. In any event, the total combined credit is limited to 30% of the corporation tax.
Transactions between affiliated parties - such transactions are defined as being between 2 parties when the percentage holding, whether direct or indirect, between the companies is 50% or more. Reasonable proof of the price of the transfer between the affiliated parties is demanded from the taxpayer. As a rule, the law specifies 3 methods of calculating the reasonability of the price of the transfer.
Interest expenses - there is a limit to the interest allowable to companies with an overseas obligation to foreign shareholders of 50% or more when the amount of the obligation is more than 3 times the amount of the equity.
Offsetting losses - a company that meets the requirements of the blue form return is eligible to offset the loss forward for the following seven years.


Japan Depreciation of Fixed Assets


In most cases either the straight line method or the declining balance method are allowed.
Depreciation is allowable at the following rates:

Class of Asset No. of years depreciated
Buildings 50
Air conditioners 15
Sailing vessels 12-15
Aircraft 5-10
Computers 4-5
Machinery and equipment 6-22
Patents 3-10
Goodwill 5
Mining rights 5-8


Comments:
An asset that costs less than 200,000 yen shall be depreciated over 3 years.
An asset that costs less than 100,000 yen shall be fully depreciated in the year of purchase.
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 10:27 AM
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3. K&R - I expected a difference but I'm amazed at the SIZE of the difference (n/t)
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 10:44 AM
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4. It has a lot to do with education equality as well.
Hurray for Japan.

Where an average person can get his teeth fixed and not starve, nor face the threat of homelessness if they get ill.



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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 10:47 AM
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5. recommend
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 10:51 AM
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6. I'll bet Japanese invest a lot of their money at home, too.
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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 10:58 AM
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7. That's still A LOT of inequality.
The best distribution is an almost equal distribution between all groups. Would be ideal if it went more like this:

1st 20% - 22% of wealth
2nd 20% - 21% of wealth
3rd 20% - 20% of wealth
4th 20% - 19% of wealth
5th 20% - 18% of wealth
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BolivarianHero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 11:00 AM
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8. THIS IS HUGH!!!
JAPAN HAS NEVER HAD A SOCILIST GOVERNMENT AND LOOK HOW WELL OFF EVERYONE IS.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 11:03 AM
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9. Strange thing is they make such bloody good cameras.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 11:11 AM
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10. Very Interesting, Thanks for Posting
I'm not moving to Japan this year...why?
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 11:27 AM
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11. I remember 20 years ago hearing Japanese saved 20-25% of their income.
When I heard that I started doing the same thing.

It's too bad most schools do not teach even the basics like balancing checkbooks, the value of saving, or any of the skills you need to remain afloat financially. Neither do schools teach students about the predatory companies that will use every tactic in the world to swindle them out of their money. An ounce of prevention is definitely worth a pound of cure, but it seems rare when children are taught that at home or in school. As a consequence we became a credit card country where people became trapped in massive debt.
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