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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 12:17 PM
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If teabaggers get elected, it will be non-voting Dems who screwed us
Obama was elected president because there are a lot more Democrats and moderates in this country, (sane people), than there are Republicans, (sane and otherwise). If we lose the house and/or senate in the upcoming election, the blame will lie squarely on Dems who decided to stay home and not vote.

The idea of a Sharron Angle, Rand Paul, Christine O’Donnell, Mark Rubio from Florida, or any of these other nut cases getting into the senate is mind boggling. As much as I hate to say it, these people make George W. Bush seem almost border-line intelligent. (Now that’s something I thought I’d never say.)

I’d assume that there are very few on DU who intend to sit out the election. But there aren’t enough of us to make a difference. What can we do? Talk to friends, relatives, coworkers, neighbors and anyone else you can make sit still and listen.

If the Republicans take over the house, Obama will be hounded for the next two years by hearings, investigations, and even impeachment proceedings because some traffic camera caught him jaywalking 10 years ago.

Each of us must do everything possible to prevent the crazies from gaining power. As bad as we think things are right now, imagine a congress in which congress and/or the senate are obeying memos sent to them by Palin, Beck and Limbaugh. Is that the country you’d want to live in?
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 12:23 PM
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1. Agree and some of the blame falls square on the
Democratic leaders for not giving them a reason to vote FOR the Democrats. See,not every person who voted for the Democrats to take power from the republicans are political nuts like people here. They wanted a difference and "change" if you will. And if they don't see much difference between the parties they will vote for something different.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 01:46 PM
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25. +1000
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 09:06 PM
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31. You're talking about accepting responsibility. I don't think elected politicians
are keen on such a concept.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 12:25 PM
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2. If Republicans get elected, it is because those who do not vote prefer Republicans.
Either Democrats or Republicans will be in power. There is no other choice. Actively vote for one side with a ballot, or passively vote for the other side with your ass. No one should pretend that sitting out an election is anything other than lazy approval of who ever wins. The message they send to the side that losers, is that they were not enough like the winners.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 12:43 PM
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11. Or, OTOH, if the Democrats stay in power, it is because those who do not vote prefer Democrats.
????

All things being equal, neither makes any fucking sense. People vote to vote FOR something, not to vote AGAINST something.

The message they send to the side that loses is they couldn't see any fucking difference between them and the winners.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 12:59 PM
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12. That sounds like something Ralph Nader would say
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 01:10 PM
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19. Funny, I thought it was exactly what Ozimanthrax said.
Maybe you should direct your comment to him.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 01:55 PM
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26. One side or the other will be in power....
People need to make a choice and quite pretending that not voting is anything but a vote for the side they want the least.

You are wrong about the message. The message will be that winners are like the ones who won. They will ask what did Repulbicans do,and it will the the ultraright crazy shit that Democrats will think of.

People who choose to vote for Republicans are neither liberals nor progressives. Peole who choose not to vote are neither nor progressives.

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 05:46 PM
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29. And people who vote for RW democrats are neither liberals nor progressives.
They are a republican 5th column.

Fuck em.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 12:26 PM
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3. And the blatant, unchecked election fraud. nt
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 12:30 PM
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5. True. Election fraud is always there. But if enough of us show up to
vote, it can be nullified. Turnout is (almost) always the key to beating election fraud.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 01:24 PM
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20. Election fraud ain't what it used to be now that there's electronic voting. nt
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 12:28 PM
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4. Oh boy, starting the blame game early.
The fact of the matter is that no candidate for office is owed a vote by anyone, Democrat, Independent or Republican. The candidate has to earn those votes. If they fail to get into office, the only fault is their own because they did not earn those votes.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 01:00 PM
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13. Tell me this again a few years from now if the crazies gain absolute power
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 01:05 PM
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16. Bull
When there are two viable candidates only, and one candidate is sane but bland, and the other candidate is hungry to destroy the world so that God will come down and lift them up in the air, the bland candidate earns the vote, period. Saying otherwise is the same thing as letting a crazy nutcase shoot you in the head because you haven't lived your life well enough.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 12:33 PM
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6. Talk to friends, relatives, coworkers, neighbors and anyone else you can make sit still and listen.
And say what? "Well sure they spent trillions of your money to keep the rich from paying for their theft and left you hanging out to dry, but the republiks are worse"?

But just maybe we might let you keep that extra $300 a year, that is, if we can buy a few votes with a few billion more in corporate welfare so that you can look forward to your new part-time, low wage, no benefit career behind the cash register.

If the teabaggers win, the blame falls squarely on the Democratic party and their steadfast refusal to do what we sent them to do.

America has been demanding change and they will get it, period. If the Democrats won't change it for the better, then inevitably the republiks will change it for the worse.


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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 01:02 PM
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14. If you really want to see "change," sit out the election and see what we get
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 01:27 PM
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21. its will be change alright, the GOP wants a do over & thats what they will get if you sit home.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 01:35 PM
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22. Oh, we're going to see change, that is beyond debate. We had the chance to make it
for the better and instead elected to nibble around the edges and leave all the problems in place. Maybe it's the other guys turn again, maybe not, but in either case the Democrats we got failed to even try and don't forget, this is the fourth year that we've had control of the agenda without any substantive improvement. To what purpose was Lieberman left to chair the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, as just one example?

I fully understand the frustration and deeply regret the decisions they've made, but they did make them.


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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 12:33 PM
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7. Why not blame Republicans for not voting Democratic?
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 12:37 PM
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9. "...because some traffic camera caught him jaywalking 10 years ago." Hardly.
The whole Clinton fiasco began as a fishing expedition. They don't need no stinkin' excuse.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 12:37 PM
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10. Yes, it's never too soon to get started on those bitter resentments. Sure beats that GOTV crap.
Your skills at finger pointing are first rate! First rate, I say!
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 01:04 PM
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15. Bitter resentments? Do you really want to see insane people running the country?
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 03:50 PM
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28. Yeah, right. I've been posting on DU for the last 8 years because I'm pro-wingnut
Life is too short to waste time being literal minded. So quit it.

The problem is the knee jerk finger pointing, the circular firing squad blaming over "who lost us the election" two months before election day. It's smacks of perpetual loserdom. I think some time spent on local GOTV efforts would be a lot more helpful than pouting about who you want to castigate inside our tent--particularly before the voting begins. But maybe that's just me.

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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 01:05 PM
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17. Damn straight
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 01:08 PM
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18. And or the very real possibility that voter fraud is real and growing since it has yet
to be fully investigated and or fixed even when the proof is out there that such has happened and can easily and more than likely happen again...

Just who is pulling the lever when we go into the booths..and why not allow such people in office..the idiot ones are so much easier to control for the real power players...

It would make sense since this very small fraction of american citizens have gotten much more attention than in all reality they should have....
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 01:38 PM
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23. And they will have the government they deserve...
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 01:44 PM
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24. So volunteer to help campaign. Going door to door is still good.
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 02:00 PM
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27. B I N G O
that is the reality and all the excuses made won't be good enough to undo the damage.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 09:02 PM
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30. No it won't.
Elections are decided by the 'independent swing voters', not by the regular democratic or republican voters. If we get our asses handed to us in November it will be because the muddled middle has voted for another round of reaganomics. Why they are making that decision is a good question, however the first reason is "the economy sucks". Why this OP is attempting to frame the defeat, if it happens, as the fault of the left is an even more interesting question. What is the point of that?
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