Reuters is fucking with us.

[MilesColtrane]

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUS166901+15-Sep-2010+PRN20100915?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a49:g43:r1:c0.410228:b37485518:z0

Why else would they distribute Art Bell stuff like this?

Slow news day...?

U.S. Nuclear Weapons Have Been Compromised by Unidentified Aerial Objects
PR Newswire

WASHINGTON, Sept. 15

Ex-military men say unknown intruders have monitored and even tampered with American nuclear missiles

Group to call on U.S. Government to reveal the facts

WASHINGTON, Sept. 15 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Witness testimony from more than 120 former or retired military personnel points to an ongoing and alarming intervention by unidentified aerial objects at nuclear weapons sites, as recently as 2003. In some cases, several nuclear missiles simultaneously and inexplicably malfunctioned while a disc-shaped object silently hovered nearby. Six former U.S. Air Force officers and one former enlisted man will break their silence about these events at the National Press Club and urge the government to publicly confirm their reality.

One of them, ICBM launch officer Captain Robert Salas, was on duty during one missile disruption incident at Malmstrom Air Force Base and was ordered to never discuss it. Another participant, retired Col. Charles Halt, observed a disc-shaped object directing beams of light down into the RAF Bentwaters airbase in England and heard on the radio that they landed in the nuclear weapons storage area. Both men will provide stunning details about these events, and reveal how the U.S. military responded.

[Duer 157099]

1. Or... because it really happens?

Lots of people, military people, claim this happens. How do you know it's not so?

[Ian David]

4. Lots of people also claim Jesus speaks to them through their Cheerios. n/t

[TexasObserver]

26. Lots of people claim God speaks to them through the Bible.

Half the world believes tall tales from the Bible. UFO believers at least have a large amount of modern facts on their side.

We all choose what we will believe. I can't fathom that people actually believe religious tales as if they were fact, but they do. I'll take the sources for UFOs over the sources for religions any day.

Jesus is as likely to talk to someone today through their breakfast cereal as God was to talk to Moses through a burning bush 3300 years ago - a story that half the world apparently believes.

[Warren DeMontague]

41. No, I don't believe in unicorns, leprechauns, or Jesus. I do belive some people have seen or

encountered things they interpret as all of the above, but I also tend to think those were manifestations -in some form or another- of that person's own brain and or consciousness.

I absolutely believe in "UFOs" because I'm sure there are flying objects that have not been identified. I see shit in the sky all the time, I'm not sure what it is, if only because my vision isn't what it used to be.

But using "half the world believes" as any kind of a rational argument to ascertain objective truth and reality (if you accept that such a thing exists) is fucking ludicrous. Half the world could believe that a giant space chicken lives on the moon, it wouldn't make it any less ridiculous.

[MilesColtrane]

6. I don't know that it didn't happen.

But, it certainly seems to be extremely unlikely.

This article cites 8 former military and a guy selling a book.

Let's just say that I am skeptical.

[littlewolf]

13. so am I

[BlancheSplanchnik]

49. wait a minute... the article says clearly, "120 witnesses"

"Witness testimony from more than 120 former or retired military personnel points to an ongoing and alarming intervention by unidentified aerial objects at nuclear weapons sites, as recently as 2003."

That doesn't seem consistent with "This article cites 8 former military and a guy selling a book".

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

2. UAO's.

I suspected as much.

[Ian David]

3. PRNewswire lets anyone broadcast any press release they want. n/t

[MilesColtrane]

7. All the more puzzling as to why Reuters chose to run it.

Certainly the lecture/sales push of the book is a real event, but...?

Maybe I can send them a press release about my next garage sale and they'll distribute it internationally!

[Ian David]

12. Tell them Little Green Men will be holding a mysterious yard sale. n/t

[LiberalAndProud]

25. 'cuz it's fun.

[Ian David]

5. Military Contractors Blame UFOs and Aliens for Their Shitty Hardware Failures. n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

8. "Noted Researcher Robert Hastings"

Yes, he's been featured prominently in "soultravel" magazine, among other places.



Sorry, I'm calling bullshit.

[TexasObserver]

9. It happens. If you can't stand to read about it, then don't.

The evidence that things we can't explain monitor advanced weapons activities on earth is overwhelming. There's no question they exist. The only real question is "who or what are they?"

Many of those who have experienced such things are either military or former military who hold or held top clearances, all of which required extensive background checks and appropriate psychological profiles.

[Warren DeMontague]

11. I'm gonna need a little more than this blurb to convince me that the evidence is "overwhelming".

As it stands, I am less than overwhelmed by the so-called evidence.

[TexasObserver]

16. Good idea. Start with Project Blue Book and work your way forward.

This report is hardly the overwhelming evidence.

Instead of covering your ears and eyes, open them to the truth. It's out there.

Any rational observer of such phenomenon the past 50 years will tell you that there have repeatedly been such incidents reported in military operations. The witnesses include many, many pilots, police, and military. You act as if you've never heard this before.

[Warren DeMontague]

18. Perhaps I'm part of the conspiracy.

Nanoo Nanoo.

[TexasObserver]

19. If that's how you process information, enjoy living in that mindset.

[Warren DeMontague]

27. Like I said. I'm gonna need a little more "evidence" pertaining to THIS SPECIFIC STORY.

See, merely tossing shit at the wall and saying "weird shit has happened, somewhere, at some point" and using that as an excuse to argue that ALL claims of weird shit must be unassailably valid- DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

[EstimatedProphet]

39. I want links

You say the evidence is there? Fine. Show me. Let me decide.

[TexasObserver]

40. You'll need to use a search engine, if you want links.

You seem to think I care whether you believe or not. I've never been one to run get links for those who demand them, and I'm not starting now. Try that little window on the upper right hand of this page.

[EstimatedProphet]

44. Are you kidding me? Seriously?

"I'm not going to give you links because I don't care" is your answer? And you wonder why you're not being taken seriously?

Instead of covering your ears and eyes, open them to the truth. It's out there. Those are your words. You tell us all to open our eyes to the truth, and then go out of your way to keep it hidden. You claim that you have proof, and then tell us all to go fuck ourselves when we ask you for it.

Telling people to google it and everything will become clear is the absolute best way to sow confusion and spread falsehoods on an internet filled with pornsite-redirects for every potential search term in the english language. Your actions are those of a con-man. It's a good thing that you don't care whether people believe you or not, because you just destroyed your credibility.

[TexasObserver]

45. google it

[EstimatedProphet]

46. I did

What gets returned is the Reuters article and a bunch of conspiracy sites. Exactly what my point was.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

47. "Instead of covering your ears and eyes, open them to the truth. It's out there."

Pssst. The X-Files was fiction.

[EFerrari]

10. Reuters pulls cr@p like this on stories from Latin America all the time.

[ThoughtCriminal]

14. Key item: "PR Newswire"

anybody can post a PR release and it gets picked up.

Next:

Obama Declares Martian Law!

[MilesColtrane]

15. Obama is too DLC.

I'm voting for BatBoy in the next election. He's a real progressive.

[LiberalAndProud]

23. Yea, uh-huh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PR_Newswire

[librechik]

17. 120 trained observers willing to come forward? Art Bell can only wish he had sources like that

Used to be that folks were worried about aircraft they can't identify being observer-close to our military installations. I mean, maybe it's harmless or nonexiistent, but doesn't it deserve an investigation? I guess not, because you might stir up something nobody wants to deal with. I guess it's just too rewarding to mock those folks rather than give them a fair listen.

These are the folks who guard our skies. Screw them, right? Don't want anyone to think we're weird. Even if it endangers our soldiers. Tell them to shut up and move along. They're embarrassing.

[Odin2005]

20. Art Bell = BS.

[Octafish]

21. FADED GIANT

From NICAP (a civilian group):

UFO sightings at ICBM sites and nuclear Weapons Storage Areas.

Scary and disconcerting stuff.

[Warren DeMontague]

28. From "Robert L. Hastings", presumably the same "Robert Hastings" referenced in the story.

Is there any source on this that doesn't come from that one dude?

[Octafish]

38. He must deserve all the attention.

Hastings has certainly kept the story going. From what I see, he's gotten former officers and non-commissioned officers to go on record. For that I thank him.

FWIW: I was very good friends with a USAF missile officer. This is one subject we could not discuss. Other USAF personnel I've known have been quite open on the subject, including those who had first-hand reports many people would dismiss out of hand.

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. There is a movement world wide to open records

not just in the US...

[JuniperLea]

29. Yep... and these aren't UFO's... jeez...

What the hell is up with this Art Bell shit? GAWD I need a break from DU...

[nadinbrzezinski]

30. Technically they are

Unidentified Flying Object... that don't mean it came from Gliese 12...

People immediately think... UFO= Alien... hell I am sure you have seen a few in your lifetime... I know I have.

That don't mean they came from somewhere else.

That said, we have had a few incidents that are truly strange... and that one referred in that base in the UK... is one of them.

[JuniperLea]

31. Exactly...

If it flies and you don't know what it is, it's an unidentified flying object. Yep, seen many... especially when the Navy was still in Long Beach... between the Long Beach Naval Shipyard and the Seal Beach Naval Weapons Depot just down the road, I'm betting someone could identify the things I've seen. I think little green men were made up to cast doubt so no questions were asked.

[nadinbrzezinski]

32. That is why 99%

of all UFO incidents can be explained, and are explained. It is that one percent that deserves more study... Bentwers in the UK is one... the ones over the military parade in Mexico City a few years back is another... but generally speaking... most are for sure not from gliese 12.

Of course here is the question, if we find out that not only we are not the only life in this universe, but we are the children... and more advanced civilizations are indeed visiting... the consequences are indeed incredible. I have no doubt in my mind that most people who advance this realize just how incredible it is... 1492 comes to mind. I mean if you can cross the distances involved... no way we punny humans can do a damn thing to stop them.

[JuniperLea]

35. The problem I see...

Is that the whole idea is pooh-poohed based on what WE know and what OUR technology is able to do.

I think it's possible that our government or the government of another country has made vehicles like this. But I'm not ruling out ETI! Missing link anyone? How about all those different looking people popping up all over the Earth?

We really don't know much at all about much at all. The most intelligent people in the world will tell you we don't know squat.

I had recurring abduction dreams when I was a kid in the 60's... I didn't recognize them as such until the 90's. So, either I've had close encounters, or some part of my human brain was acting out in a way that happens with many humans. The jury is still out:) But my mind is way open.

[nadinbrzezinski]

36. Oh my mind is fully open as well

and of course our interpretation is military, since our cultures for the last 10K years, if not more... have been fighting for resources. Chimps do it too, as well as dolphins. What if ET has evolved well beyond war?

Or as I like to quip... IT IS the Alien Graduate Research Class from Gliesse 12, coming for their spring break. For the record, I ain't too curious about THAT spring break. I got enough of those during Earth Based Spring Breaks!

Incidentally I have had one experience that is truly out there... and it could have been a chopper, or something else. Oh and trust me the Mexican AF did not have the tech at the time to fly something that strange.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

24. Because it gets hits for the website?

Same reason Huffpost puts up all that crazy shit?

[AsahinaKimi]

33. There it is ..

Proof of Time Travels! ... :spray:

[MilesColtrane]

37. Indeed, they are future humans trying to stop present day humans from...

annihilating themselves. Because if we nuked ourselves then the future humans wouldn't exist to be able go back in time and stop us from destroying the entire species.

But, if future humans exist to go back in time at all that must mean that present day humans didn't snuff themselves out, so the future humans don't NEED to go back in time.

So, some OTHER future humans from a different timeline actually took the preventative measures, then went back again to plant this fake UFO story on Reuters to cover their tracks!

:yoiks:

I think we've just discovered the plot to the J. J. Abrams "Star Trek" sequel.

[AsahinaKimi]

34. dupe

[Warren DeMontague]

42. Maybe it sounds like "Art Bell stuff"

because it IS Art Bell stuff.

http://www.cufon.org/cufon/malmstrom/malm1.htm

Robert Salas appeared on the Art Bell radio Show Dreamland on November 24, 1996, and on the syndicated Art Bell Show on November 25, 1996.

[tandem5]

43. UAO? Well it's about time the aliens retooled their image!

Aerial is a much better word - Aliens don't fly okay... they hover and zip around in orthogonal directions!

[liberalmuse]

48. It's true...

I transcribed an interview from a very reputable source who used to be in the Air Force at Malmstrom when I worked at an org that studied sightings.