SUV driver thought she hit deer, actually hit Green Party's Senate candidate

[BurtWorm]

:wtf:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/21/natasha-pettigrew-green-p_n_733533.html

UPPER MARLBORO, Md. — A Green Party candidate running for U.S. Senate in Maryland has died after being hit by an SUV while riding her bike.

Maryland State Police say 30-year-old Natasha Pettigrew died early Tuesday. She was hit by an SUV in Prince George's County early Sunday.

Police say the woman driving the Cadillac Escalade that hit Pettigrew kept driving nearly four miles to her home, even though the bicycle was still lodged underneath the vehicle.

Police say the woman thought she hit a deer or a dog and didn't want to stop in the early morning hours. When she and her husband found the bicycle under the SUV, they called police.

[JerseygirlCT]

1. No words

She thought she hit a dog, but didn't want to stop...

Found the bike under the SUV...

How the hell?

[raccoon]

2. I wonder if it was a hit and run, and then her husband convinced her they had to tell the police.

Or else she was DUI and didn't want to get caught for felony DUI.

[hlthe2b]

3. driving a Cadillac Escalade....

that tells me all I need to know. :mad: (Sorry, but a good bit of the stereotype re: Escalade owners is true)

[Radical Activist]

6. No one with any common sense or basic decency would buy that vehicle.

[Blue Owl]

8. They were probably shoving a KFC Double-Down in their fucking gullet

I'll say it again -- hitting a bicyclist with a motor vehicle is a legal way to murder someone.

Let's see what "charges" are filed against this "driver."

[Dreamer Tatum]

22. while altering a voting machine and remotely causing an oil spill, I'd bet.

It just HAS to be that way, right?

[thereismore]

10. I am fucking sick of these guzzlers and their drivers that get them to "feel safe". Fuck. nt

[Dreamer Tatum]

19. Hey, totally. When I get smacked by a Prius, I just get up, dust off, and shake hands.

I daydream of getting clobbered by an alternative-fuel vehicle while riding my bike. It would be like getting kissed by Gaia. An SUV, though? That's juat plain MURDER.

:eyes:

[thereismore]

66. Or manslaughter, if you want to get technical. nt

[BrklynLiberal]

12. I tend to agree with your conclusion..the same for those who drive hummers..

[hughee99]

16. Yes, people like Jesse Jackson

http://detnews.com/article/20100903/MIVIEW/100903001/Payne--The-irony-of-Jesse-Jackson-s-stripped-SUV

[laughingliberal]

46. Nice Source. Blames EPA & union workers for the woes of American car companies.

Actually, time long ago passed Detroit by because Jesse’ favored government mpg mandates and UAW wages stripped the Big Three’s ability to compete against non-union transplants. These jobs were real – unlike the artificial, government subsidized green jobs he shakes down the feds for today.
Real jobs produced big, profitable SUVs like the one Jesse prefers to ride in. His SUV has been stripped by thugs – a fitting metaphor for what Jesse and his pals have done to the auto industry for the last 35 years.


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[hughee99]

47. It was the first one that came up when I went looking. So are you suggesting that Jesse

did not, in fact, have an Escalade?

If that source bothers you, how about one of these...
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2010/09/jesse-jacksons-cadillac-escalade-jacked-in-detroit.html
http://www.examiner.com/cadillac-escalade-in-fort-wayne
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9075418
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/2671614,jesse-jackson-car-stolen-090310.article

[laughingliberal]

48. I'm suggesting I don't like my news from Fox-like sources. nt

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[Marengo]

77. She deserves to be raped in prison?

"I hope they put her in federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison."


:wow:

[Autumn]

81. Disgusting isn't it

wonder how he would like it.

[GreenPartyVoter]

5. Unbelievable!

:cry:

[napi21]

7. Pisses me off that she wouldn't have stopped if it wads "just a dog ot

a deer"! I realize whe was driving a damn tank, but that's no excuse for not stopping. MAYBe the dog or the deer could have been helped, at least the dog! I know I'd be really pissed if some AH hit one of my dogs & didn't care enough to stop!

[BrklynLiberal]

14. +1000

Escalades, Hummers, etc..come with a sense of entitlement.

[DailyGrind51]

9. There are two kinds of people who buy SUVs like the Escalade,

Inadequate men who are afraid to drive in the snow and women who need to ride higher to feel equal.

[Dreamer Tatum]

20. Actually, anytime a congressperson goes anywhere, it's usually in a motorcade of SUVs.

You might want to use a narrower brush, there, sport.

[hlthe2b]

24. The person driving was not a congress person...

the person hit was running for Senate (and riding a bike)... Sport.

[Dreamer Tatum]

26. Oh, I see. SUVs are only for congresspeople. Right.

:eyes:

[hlthe2b]

27. Not what I said at all...

Just correcting your version of what happened.

[Dreamer Tatum]

28. You generalized about SUV drivers. I pointed out that congresspeople use them all the time.

So favor me...what are Pelosi and Reid, among others, compensating for?

[hlthe2b]

29. Try directing your question at the right poster...

You can do it.. I know you can...:eyes:

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[6000eliot]

38. Scumbags and scumbags.

[jobycom]

11. You people need help.

My mother wants an Escalade. She grew up in an era when Cadillacs had a certain mystique, so she's always wanted one, even a much older one. Instead she drives an Altima. She's 74, my father is largely disabled from a stroke, and it's easier for him to get into a vehicle with a high seat. He has various bits of equipment he carries around when he goes anywhere so he can walk, breath... luxuries like that, you know. Fucking fascist parents of mine deserve to die, I guess. Obama voters or not.

My best friend when I was 10 was killed by his mother's cousin. He was walking down a country highway and the man hit him, and drove on, thinking it was a deer. That's not very unusual--I think denial and shock set in, and you try to convince yourself it was a deer. For some reason I don't recall he turned around and went back a short while later, and found the body. Not a happy time for any of us. It happens. Fucking grow up.

[BrklynLiberal]

15. I would think that a Minivan of some sort would be easier than an Escalade for a disabled person to

get in and out of. One needs a stepladder to climb into an Escalade..

[jobycom]

17. It's another option, but my point still stands.

Only a bigot judges a person by external appearances and factors without knowing a damn thing about that person.

[Dappleganger]

75. So you think that everyone here are bigots?

You throw around some awfully strong words for claiming to know better.

[hlthe2b]

21. People want what they want...

and we tend to defend the choices of family members. I think we can all relate to that.

Having grown up in rural areas where deer were common (as well as time in Wyoming where deer, elk, and moose were a road threat), I can say that it was ALWAYS instilled in me to stop after hitting something. For multiple reasons, including the possibility that a lodged animal might render the car too damaged to drive if you continue. But, frankly, more so because it is the law in most states to do so. But, especially, for me, because I needed to see if whatever I hit could be helped. So, no, I don't think it just "happens" that one hits something and drives on, later to find that it was a dying human being.

Sorry, jobycom. We can disagree on the pros and cons of gas-guzzling, ostentatious SUVs, and I can empathize with your wanting to defend the choices of family members who clearly have earned the right to buy whatever they please. But, NOT stopping to check on what your car hit is not only illegal, it is immoral IMHO. That said, I also realize that some people panic and are not capable of doing the right thing at that moment. In those cases, we can only hope that the justice system will show compassion.

[jobycom]

32. Where I grew up we were told not to stop.

In rural Mississippi in the 70s, you never stopped if you hit an animal. That's what I was raised being told, and I'm still startled when I hear of people who think you are supposed to. Is it really a law in some states? Which ones, in case it happens to me.

[hlthe2b]

33. I know it was in Missouri growing up...

I lived in lots of states growing up, including many where I was too young to drive, but was always told it to be the case.

[Sweet Charming Dem]

49. If I hit a domestic animal, I'd stop (and feel absolutely horrible)

I hit a deer once. I didn't stop. It ran off into a corn field. Probably to die, but nothing I could do about it.

[northernlights]

71. actually there is one thing you could do

which is call the police and advise where it happened. They would dispatch someone to track and euthanize it.

At least in my state. One of the better things about Maine. I believe it is a law that you must report hitting deer. If you hit a moose, even an escalade will be seriously damaged.

Someone hit a deer in front of my house once. He called the police. I found him and animal control officer parked out front. Officer and I searched for and found her dead in my raspberry bushes.

The officer told me he knew of a family that could use the meat, so I gave permission for them to come and collect her body. She was gone within half an hour or so, so I was grateful that she didn't go to waste and I didn't have to deal with the disposal of her body.

So yes, there is still something you can do, and at least in some states are supposed to do.

[petronius]

55. Why were you taught not to stop?

I was taught not to swerve or try and stop to avoid hitting an animal, but what's the reason not to stop afterward at a safe spot and check it out?

[Ron Green]

56. You were taught not to stop when you hit an animal? How about a human animal?

Shit, in rural East Texas in the '50s, we were taught all kinds of wrong things.

[muriel_volestrangler]

65. It's the law in the UK

and so I think it'd be quite reasonable to be the law in some US states too.

If your car hits a dog or a farm animal, such as a sheep or cow, you are required by law to report the incident to the police. If you hit a cat or wild animal, there is no obligation to report it, but you must ensure that the animal is not injured and suffering.

http://www.greenflag.com/help/drivingguide_whattodo.html

[NoGOPZone]

67. Or what they're convinced to want. nt

[GreenPartyVoter]

25. Oh, how awful for that family. :^( I know someone who hit and killed someone, though, but she

stopped when it happened. As you say, different people handle the crisis differently. I would imagine I would be rather in shock myself if it happened to me.

[jobycom]

36. It was even worse than that.

The father had just finished training to be an undertaker, and had just spent all his savings on a funeral home. A week before he had been working on his roof and fell off and broke both of his legs. I'll never forget him sitting there, at the doorway into the viewing room (a room I never went in), with a full leg cast on both legs, with his son as his first client. I never saw him go in, but I hid a lot of the time. I just sat in a corner and created a fantasy that this was like Tom Sawyer, and Sidney--who was always playing pranks anyway--would pop out of a rough vent and yell "Surprise!" That's the real reason I didn't look at the body--so I could keep that fantasy.

His father... I can't even imagine. I looked him up decades later (not long ago) on the Internet, and all I could find out was he stayed in the funeral industry and became pretty important in a small town in nearby Louisiana. Couldn't tell if he was still alive, or much of anything. The one thing that was interesting to me was his address--the road he lived on was named after him, which meant it was also named after his son.

Meh. Nice mood I've worked myself into. :)

[GreenPartyVoter]

44. Oh, that is beyond devastating!

[Tesha]

41. Try a minivan.

They hold more cargo, their lower seat location makes it easier
for *EVERYONE* to get in and out, and they get much better
mileage than an Escalade. They probably cost a lot less as well.

Tesha

[northernlights]

70. sorry for your loss

However, there is a difference between confusing a deer attached to the undercarriage of your car with a bicycle.

I suspect that, in your situation, had a bicycle been attached to the cousin's car, dragging along underneath, he would have figured out a lot quicker that he'd hit something other than a deer.

[Dappleganger]

73. I've transported a number of elderly

in our Chrysler T&C LTD, which has all the "works". They get in and out of that more easily than they ever could with a SUV because you have to step up into those. The T&C is just a straight slide across the leather seats and easy as pie to get in and out. I've had numerous surgeries and we always have to use that car for transportation.

An Escalade is a very heavy vehicle and could be a dangerous weapon if not properly controlled, so I would never recommend it for an older person.

[alittlelark]

13. WHEN did they 'find' the bicycle under her tank?

When she got home?
The next morning?

How can a sober person drive 4 miles w/ a bike scraping under her car and not notice?

Totally F'ed up story.

[jobycom]

18. Maybe she thought it was damage to the car.

Like a fender dragging.

Or maybe she tried to drive away knowing she'd hit a person. We don't know, because the story had very few details.

[grace0418]

23. Yeah, but wouldn't you check to make sure it wasn't something dangerous to your own

well-being? Even if you're stupid and selfish enough not to care about hitting a dog or a deer, I would think that the scraping sound would lead any rational person to make sure they aren't leaking gasoline and showering sparks with whatever is dragging on the ground. Especially with 3 or 4 miles to travel.

Details or not, that story smells fishy to me.

[jobycom]

30. Depends. I'm good with cars, so of course I would. I know people who wouldn't.

I've seen people drive on complete flats and ruin rims because they didn't know how to change a flat.

I don't know the details, but just to show you how they can matter: let's say this is a 70 year old woman with no idea how to fix a car if she finds something wrong driving a narrow road with no shoulder in the middle of the night. She's afraid to stop because she could get hit, there's no place to pull off the road, and she wouldn't know what to do anyway, so she keeps driving until she gets home a few miles away to let her husband, who she usually lets solve these matters, look at the car.

I work for a tire company. We see stuff like that all the time. Not just elderly women, either. I've seen younger women who don't know what to do. I've seen men who don't, either, but the story did at least say it was a female driver.

Again, none of that may be the case and it may be a hit-and-run with a wife with a history of DUIs returning home to let the alcohol leave her bloodstream, or it could have been a teenage driver who fled, and the mother is taking the rap for it. Who knows? The story says nothing.

[grace0418]

39. I guess I've read a couple of different articles on this story so I already knew that she

was 41 so not exactly elderly. You don't have to know how to fix a car to make sure you're not in danger. If you're afraid to get out of the car, you call AAA, the police, a tow truck...or your husband. He was 3 or 4 miles away (depending on which story) and was awake enough to come out and help her "discover" the bicycle clinging to her SUV in the driveway.

I'm a female driver just one year younger than this person. I don't know a damn thing about fixing cars. But I would stop and check to see what happened if I hit anything. And if I didn't feel safe enough to exit the vehicle, I would call the police or AAA. I just don't buy her story.

[Pithlet]

31. I agree. Finding the bike under the car is extremely suspicious.

I think they know exactly what happened and are guilty of hit and run.

[MountainLaurel]

35. Depending on where she was in PG County

She may not wanted to get out of her car by herself late at night.

[grace0418]

37. It was 5 am. And she was 3 or 4 miles from home. According to one of the articles

I read she drove home, she and her husband "discovered" the bicycle, and then she called the police. While not exactly late at night, if she were worried about exiting her vehicle, she could have easily called her husband to come meet her. I'm guessing if she drives an Escalade there is more than one vehicle in the family. Or she could call the police, a tow truck, AAA...any number of alternatives to getting out of the vehicle if she was worried about that.

[TorchTheWitch]

61. So call someone

What, someone that owns a Cadillac Escalade doesn't have a cellphone???

No way someone hits a person on a bike and keeps driving 3 to 4 miles home somehow not knowing that the bike was stuck under the car. The excuse making here is ridiculous. This was a hit and run.

[alittlelark]

34. If your fender is dragging you stop the car

or risk SERIOUS damage if if comes loose.

This story reeks.

It would reek if she were driving ANY type of car.


I hope the local DA is looking into those 'very few details'.

[Junkdrawer]

40. More details here:

Natasha Pettigrew, a 30-year-old Green Party candidate for U.S. Senate in Maryland, died late Monday night, one day after she was hit by a car while riding her bicycle.

Maryland State Police said they learned Pettigrew had died at a Prince George's County hospital at 10:30 p.m. on Monday.

She had been critically injured at about 5:30 a.m. on Sunday while training for a triathlon on Route 202 in the Largo area.

Pettigrew was hit by an SUV traveling south on Route 202 near the intersection with Campus Way. State police said the driver apparently thought she had hit a deer or another animal and realized what had happened when she found Pettigrew's bicycle trapped under her car upon arriving home at a Cheverly area address. Pettigrew was not dragged by the vehicle but suffered severe injuries, police said.

The driver, who police identified as Christy R. Littleford, 41, called Prince George's County police sometime before 6:30 a.m. on Sunday to report the crash. County police then relayed the information to state police, who were on the scene.

...

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/crime-scene/josh-white/md-candidate-dies-from-crash-i.html

So an hour between the accident and the call to police....

[Junkdrawer]

43. Video here:

http://www.thewashcycle.com/2010/09/maryland-senate-candidate-in-critical-condition-after-being-hit-by-an-suv.html

Massive damage to the car including a flat right front tire. And, listening to the police, it's pretty clear the drive will not be charged.

[Hepburn]

52. Thanks for the video of the SUV...

...IMO, there is NO way anyone could have driven that car home and NOT known that there was something terribly wrong. How the hell did she even turn the front wheels to get into the driveway????

[TexasObserver]

42. At 5:30 am, visibility would be an issue. Did the biker have lights?

I realize some automatically blame the car driver any time a bike rider is hit, but that's simply not true. Sometimes bike riders make tragic errors, one of which is riding in the dark without lights.

Maybe the driver was guilty of something, but she may not have been. There's insufficient evidence reported to conclude which one was at fault, or if both were at fault.

[RamboLiberal]

45. I made that point as well in LBN story

As a driver too often I've come up on bikers and walkers/runners during dark hours and only saw them at the last seconds. Puts my heart in my throat.

The TV story did mention Pettigrew wasn't wearing reflective clothing. Nothing about if she had lights on her bike.

Still the way that bike was lodged under the SUV I think the driver had to be an idiot not to realize it was more than a deer, dog or piece of her SUV dragging.

But bikers and anyone who walks/runs near a road in dark hours - please invest in good LED blinking lights and/or reflective clothing.

You may think because you can see the headlights the driver sees you, but no we can't on a dark road!

[TexasObserver]

53. Drivers have to look for bikers, and bikers have to be visible to drivers.

I have a problem with the bike being dragged several minutes and miles. That would seem to leave sparks visible in the rear view mirror, and the sound would be fairly obvious. It would alert the driver to the need to stop and see what the problem was, since a deer doesn't make sparks fly.

If I had to guess, I'd guess the bike rider was not very visible, the SUV driver didn't see her until it happened, the SUV driver drove home in a panic, and her husband found the bicycle under the vehicle. He may have had to convince her to call police, which should have been done within 5 minutes of the accident.

If the SUV driver was blood tested, which is common in many states for vehicular accidents in which a death is involved, and those tests come back positive for any controlled substance, she's probably looking at criminal charges. If they come back clean, probably not. She could also be charged with failure to stop and render aid, but given her story of believing it was a deer, that's probably a losing case EXCEPT for the fact she took so long to call police after having had plenty of time to discover the bicycle.

[northernlights]

59. hit and run is criminal in a lot of place

the claim to not notice the bicycle is beyond lame. She hit and ran, leaving the cyclist to die. That's a far cry from hitting and stopping to see what the eff you hit.

[TexasObserver]

62. It's not "hit and run" if she thinks it is a deer, and is otherwise without fault.

You don't know if she was a bad actor or not, but you're ready to sling criminal charges around.

If she's clean, it makes the likelihood of criminal charges much smaller. If she fails the blood test, she will likely be charged.

She may be guilty of something, but the report does not reveal evidence of that, except the lag time to call police. Even that is hazy, however, and indefinite. Simply because someone hits a bicyclist before dawn and kills them doesn't mean the driver has any fault. As with any vehicle and bicycle accident, it's possible for the cyclist to be 100% at fault.

[taterguy]

63. Can we at least agree she shouldn't be driving?

Giving her every benefit of every doubt: She still drove four miles with something metallic under her car.

She obviously lacks a basic situational awareness which should be a requirement for operating complex heavy machinery on public roads.

[TexasObserver]

64. No.

[taterguy]

78. Why not?

[northernlights]

68. with a bicycle attached to her cars undercarriage

it's a little hard to believe she was unaware that she hadn't hit a deer.

As I wrote in another place, a small twig stuck to the undercarriage is pretty hard to ignore.

As other's have written, deer don't generally creat sparks when they're dragged along the road.

And they certainly don't make the kind of noise that a large metal object makes.

Unless she's deaf, she's got a hard time proving she was incognizant of the large metallic object dragged underneath.

And I didn't "sling" criminal charges around, nor has anybody said she's criminal for actually hitting the bicyclist. I simply stated that leaving the scene of an accident is a crime in many states. Hell, I was threatened with arrest because I went to the drugstore and returned after a parking lot ding in my own condo lot, in which I told the brother of the car owner I'd be right back. I was there *before* the cop arrived, nobody was hurt, the damage was well under $100...and I *still* was threatened with arrest. :eyes:

The point is she didn't stop to see what she'd hit. And she apparently couldn't be bothered to stop to see what had to have making a fucking lot of noise under the car for 4 miles. Or what probably was also spewing sparks the entire way.

But keep defending her actions following the accident as acceptable unless she was drunk, by all means...:shrug: At the very least, she is a narcissistic, self-abosrbed *bitch* who thought she'd left "just a deer or dog" to die in agony. Her bad luck it wasn't "just a deer or a dog." Because leaving the scene of an accident is a crime in many states. HOpefully in hers.

[northernlights]

58. I don't see anybody blaming driver for not seeing biker

I think it's the idea that:

1. she claims she left a deer or dog to die horribly, without stopping to assist because that would inconvenience *her*

2. she dragged a bicycle for 4 miles under her car without noticing. (um, I get a tiny branch stuck under my car and the noise is scary loud).

3. she obviously was either drunk or stoned to not notice the bicycle she was towing, or she's lying through her teeth and chose to run after she hit.

In other words, her behavior in the situation was self-absorbed, narcissistic, criminal, no matter *how* you slice it.

[Lance_Boyle]

72. I'll mention here that it can be extremely dangerous to approach a wounded animal

I can see giving the driver the benefit of the doubt on that point alone. You do not want to get out and check on that 6-point buck you just hit - if he's not too badly wounded he can *really* fuck you up. And I agree that a cyclist without appropriate lighting and reflective gear riding during dark hours is taking undue risks herself. Don't know whether that was the case here, but I've seen it enough to know that it happens.

[northernlights]

74. you don't need to get close to realize it's a deer versus a person

and from the safety of your car, if it is a deer, you can call the police. Animal control will track and euthanize in many cases.

Again, nobody has said she was to blame for the accident.

And there is no excuse I can think of for being unaware of a bicycle attached to the undercarriage of her car.

[Lance_Boyle]

76. Depends on whether the bike scraped pavement on the way, or

was lodged in such a manner as to be not noticeable from inside. I'll grant that the latter is a much less likely scenario, but not outside the realm of possibility. Certainly it is not absolutely true beyond any reasonable doubt that a bike stuck in the undercarriage must make sufficient racket for the driver inside to notice. Ground clearance on a suburban assault vehicle makes it even more of a possibility.

I have not seen any confirmation yet as to whether or not the cyclist had appropriate lights and reflective gear.

[northernlights]

79. again nobody is blaming her for accidentally hitting the cyclist

and nobody knows whether the cyclist had appropriate lights or reflective gear.

But it's pretty hard to believe the bicycle was lodged in such a way as to be unnoticeable. Sorry, but I'm just not buying that one.

[TorchTheWitch]

82. apparently the cyclist was not wearing reflective gear

however, bikes themselves have reflectors on them and she may have also had a light. The only information is that she herself was not wearing reflective gear.

But, as you say, that's not the point. It's leaving the scene after knowing you struck something and knowing that the damage to the car was so great it shouldn't have been driven. In the video link upthread, the pictures of the car show not only a flat front tire but the bike wedged under it with most of it dragging the ground. Ain't no way she really thought she hit a deer or dog, and ain't no way she should have driven the car all those miles home in it's extensively damaged condition. Besides all that, it took her an HOUR to call police after the time of the accident. Ain't no way that she called police immediately once arriving home.

[northernlights]

83. actually she may have been wearing reflective gear

although the police say they didn't see obvious evidence of it, according to one article a news station found obvious pieces of reflective gear at the scene. Her mother says she *always* wore reflective gear.

I've also now read that it took the driver an hour to call the police. She didn't call them until 6:30am.

And I read another article tonight that says there was a witness that says she did stop the car and then drove on, and that there was smoke and sparks coming from behind her car.

I'm beginning to smell a coverup.

"According to the police, the crash happened at 5:30 am and that she called the police some time before 6:30 am.

Initially it did not appear that Pettigrew was wearing reflective clothing or lights. But her mother claims that she always rode with reflective gear and a News9 team found "found pieces of reflective plastic just a few feet from the accident scene as well as a reflective sneaker which Pettigrew's mother identified as the victim's."

Police say they needed to extract the bike from underneath the Escalade's frame to retrieve any additional evidence.

The witness claimed she saw sparks and smoke flying from it as it slowly drove away."


http://www.thewashcycle.com/

[taterguy]

80. So how exactly is the undercarriage going to carry a bike?

A bike is about 3 feet x 4 feet, nearly six feet with the wheels. It's gonna hit the ground unless something is holding it up. When it hits the ground and gets dragged it's gonna make noise.

Please post a plausible theory about how the bike could stay suspended between the undercarriage and the pavement for four miles.

Your doubt ain't so reasonable.

[PVnRT]

50. nm

[Hepburn]

51. Gee, wonder if the delay gave her enough time to sober up?

No one, IMO, can drag a bike for miles and not realize it is under the fucking car!!!!!!

:wow:

[live love laugh]

54. Exactly. Deer don't make metallic scraping noises on the pavement as that bike must have. nt

[City of Mills]

60. I'll give the driver the benefit of the doubt

This:


Looks nearly identical to this:



...to nearly all but the sharpest of eyes... have you ever seen how fast those bikes dart out of the woods? There you are minding your own business, painting your nails or updating your Facebook status on your Blackberry when all of a sudden these inconsiderate bastards throw themselves in front of your vehicle.

[northernlights]

69. and the racket they make when attached to the undercarriage of your car

is nearly the same too.

Seriously, how could she have possibly known?