hedgehog
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Fri May-18-07 03:22 PM
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How many people have any idea how many people were killed |
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by Katrina and how many were never accounted for? I see numbers from time to time, and they are so high I can't believe that Bush wasn't impeached then and there. The only explanantion I can come up with is that by the time solid numers were developed, Paris Hilton took all the headlines.
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Fri May-18-07 03:26 PM
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I believe the final number was somewhere around 1,800.
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Fri May-18-07 03:28 PM
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3. I see numbers ranging from 1500 to 3000 and wonder why no one is still enraged. |
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I think most people think the death toll was under 50.
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Fri May-18-07 03:34 PM
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7. Well, those people are, obviously, seriously misinformed |
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At the same time, I don't see how you blame the administration for the hurricane. Granted, the response was piss poor, but the vast majority of deaths occured in the initial storm surge and levee collapse.
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Fri May-18-07 04:07 PM
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16. The Hurricane did not destroy New Orleans, the years and years of |
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Edited on Fri May-18-07 04:07 PM by GumboYaYa
graft and corruption by local levee boards, neglect by federal and state government and the failure to remedy the destruction of Louisiana's coastline is what destroyed New Orleans. Katrina was a Category 3 Hurricane when it hit New Orleans. We had been told all my life that the levees were built to withstand a Category 3 storm.
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Fri May-18-07 04:10 PM
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17. The hurricane didn't drown NOLA. The levees breached |
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and the White House didn't issue a warning.
That's murder, as far as I can tell.
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Fri May-18-07 03:27 PM
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2. I haven't read of any final number except from early on. |
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Fri May-18-07 03:29 PM
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5. Obeying who? You can get an up-to-date number from any number of sources. |
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According to wikipedia, the number's 1,836, and they got it via the NY Times.
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Fri May-18-07 03:41 PM
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Edited on Fri May-18-07 04:08 PM by cat_girl25
I'm just saying the news media on tv don't report those numbers. We've heard hundreds of times it was 3000 for Sept. 11 but how many times have we heard the total number from Hurricane Katrina? My guess is the * administration wants to keep a lid on it as much as they can.
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Fri May-18-07 03:55 PM
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14. Oh, I'm sure it's far from the first thing the administration would like to discuss |
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Then again, they don't exactly have a lot going for them, do they? Hell, at this point, they'd probably rather talk about New Orleans than, say, the Justice Department.
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Fri May-18-07 03:28 PM
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4. I don't think they will ever let us know. |
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For Katrina alone, impeach these bastards. :mad:
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SteppingRazor
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Fri May-18-07 03:33 PM
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6. Yes. They would never let us know... like, on a government Web site, for example: |
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http://www.dhh.louisiana.gov/offices/page.asp?ID=192&Detail=5248Sheesh. Guys, this is not some conspiracy. There's plenty of sources to check casualty rates from the hurricane.
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Fri May-18-07 03:36 PM
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8. I was not meaning that this was some conspiracy, only that it isn't |
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in the interest of the WH to total up the dead.
As if they could.
Dead people were being found long after the searches ended by relatives who had to go back to the properties and try to handle them in some way. And that doesn't take into account the people who were simply swept out to sea.
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Fri May-18-07 03:39 PM
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9. Granted, but that's explained by... |
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the decrease in casualties from around 4,000 to the final, much-lower number as people who were missing turned up. The final count (which, my bad, is actually slightly lower than I stated earlier, at 1,723) is probably pretty accurate, as there are very few unidentified bodies left (26, IIRC) and even less reports of missing.
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Fri May-18-07 03:45 PM
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13. I wish I had your confidence in these numbers. But I honestly don't. |
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Poor people and colorful people have a way of being elided.
Imho, it will be a long,long time before we actually know what happened and I don't feel any glee at that prospect, not at all. :(
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Fri May-18-07 04:35 PM
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I am well familiar with the city.
When I went back and witnessed the devastation, I thought that the toll would be many thousands.
And, unfortunately, I understand the physics of death and destruction and a trapped populace.
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Fri May-18-07 05:00 PM
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20. This should be a huge wake up call for all of us. n/t |
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Fri May-18-07 04:32 PM
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18. Yep, if it says .gov it must be correct. |
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They will never admit the true total.
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Fri May-18-07 03:41 PM
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10. By the way, here's a list of Katrina deaths by locality: |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/hurricane_Katrina_death_toll_by_localityIt relies a lot on the work of blogger Robert Lindsay, who kept a commendably close watch on Katrina casualties, as well as the Louisiana state government's reports. I think it's about as close as we'll ever have to an exact count.
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Fri May-18-07 04:01 PM
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15. I will never forget that -- that and the cake. |
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