A little dose of reality.

[metapunditedgy]

Americans, when polled, strongly support the repeal of DADT and gays serving openly in the military.
http://www.google.com/search?q=+poll+repeal+don't+ask+don't+tell

Robust public option was wildly popular:
http://www.google.com/search?q=poll+support+public+option

Americans strongly believe BP should face criminal charges.
http://www.google.com/search?q=poll+bp+criminal

Americans strongly support real Wall Street reform, but doubt claims the current legislation will prevent another crisis.
http://www.google.com/search?q=poll+wall+street+reform


I'm pretty disgusted by the theater over this latest attempt to pass something liberal that the country wants, and the hand-wringing that ensues. How can the Senate miss yet another chance to deliver change that we can believe in?

[PBS Poll-435]

1. I agree with you, and disagree with you too.

We know the friggin' rules of this board game.


60 was the number. 56 < 60.





The Senate, seems to be lately, where good ideas go to die.

(But those are the rules)

[metapunditedgy]

3. Yeah, but there's no accountability. What price has the GOP paid for

forcing these ideas to die? "Backbone" is just a metaphor. If you're serious about pushing these ideas through, then put some f***ing pressure on the Republicans.

[RandomThoughts]

4. It is not a board game.

Thinking things are a game is much of the problem. That is a delusion.

[metapunditedgy]

6. Thinking (in itself) is an illusion, though not a delusion (cf. Des Cartes).

Thinking things are therefore illusory, but not delusory.

[RandomThoughts]

12. I have heard that thought.

It says that thought is not an impetus to action but a after effect of action.

People do not think then do something, they have a feeling to do something then a thought tries to explain why they did it.

An example is actually many post I make, I post things without knowing the reason, then create a reason in best thought as to what the post means.

The thought of a post is after the feeling to post some idea.


However thought can sync with feeling when many of the defense mechanisms and ego of thought are removed and just the feeling that motivates thought is felt on, then you sorta think as you feel.


Or something like that.

[Jim Sagle]

8. Those are the BULLSHIT rules - easily changed at the beginning of a Congressional session.

So "those are the rules" is BULLSHIT. As you already damn well knew.

[metapunditedgy]

13. Even if you don't want a rule change, filibustering should at least have CONSEQUENCES.

I face more opposition walking to the bus stop every morning than the GOP/Blanche/Joe do for filibustering.

[mwb970]

9. Then why didn't Democrats get everything they want when they were in the minority?

It seems as though the republicans get their way regardless of how many votes they have or how few Americans they represent. Clearly, the entire system is fundamentally tipped in favor of rich, powerful people, i.e. republicans. With their legions of know-nothing moron Foxified footsoldiers ready to work tirelessly against their own interests, how can they lose?

[laughingliberal]

2. It's getting more common for the will of the electorate to be ignored.

This is another example. Some others are the Public Option and the deep audit of the Fed. Some democracy, huh?

[metapunditedgy]

5. It appears that the American populace is to the left of our entire government.

(In general.)

Go figure.

In some cases, it appears likely that even a significant fraction of *Republicans* are to the left of the Senate.

[laughingliberal]

7. It does look that way

The M$M is doing their best to hide that by pushing all the teabagger crap 24/7 but it's getting harder to hide.

[metapunditedgy]

14. It was interesting to see that some of those polls got buried.

Whatever happened to that cnn poll on DADT, for example?

[ThomCat]

15. That has been the case for a long, long time.

The purpose of the mass media has been to isolate our government from what people really think

and to convince people that what our politicians and their rich supporters think is what people really want, not vice versa.

[seabeyond]

10. dont forget... leave ss alone. nt

[TexasObserver]

11. The voters wanted more progressive measures, not fewer, not less.

The public wanted the things we ran on in 2008.

I feel like we were dealt a full house, but we folded for fear the GOP might have four of a kind.

[ThomCat]

16. We didn't fold. Obama folded. Our party then did exacty the same.

Obama was dealt four aces, and didn't know enough about poker to realize that this beat a pair of eights, so he "negotiated" with republicans and corporate lobbyists to give them every major profitable goal they wanted.

Our party has no history of having any courage or unity, and immediately followed his example. Especially because our party has recruited blue-dogs to be republicanLites in our own party, conservaDems, to undermine every traditional democratic effort we might ever try to achieve. They are there specifically to make sure we serve corporate interests above all else. They make us look good to corporate donors, and kill any efforts to ever be effective to our base, and deliberately so because that is what corporate donors want.

[Javaman]

17. In other words: washington is out of touch with the people.

so what else is new?

[metapunditedgy]

18. Every day I see a new claim that the people should not be out of touch with Washington.

It's new every day.

[Jim Sagle]

19. That's what they TELL us every day.

That's what Obama meant the other night at the $30,000 a plate dinner.

That's what Gibbs meant when he said we needed drug tests.

It's what Rahm meant when he called us fucking retards and when he said fuck the UAW.

It's what the cheerleaders on DU mean when they tell us how good we have it, how much the O Dems have done for us, and how scary it would get for us if let them go now.

They're the good cops telling us how the bad cops will abolish Social Security if we don't let the good cops trim it.

It's got to stop.

[metapunditedgy]

20. Try to pin the good cops down, ask them what would be a deal-breaker.

What would be off the table? Are cuts to SS unacceptable? Where do you draw the line.

You will hear nothing... crickets... every time.

Americans overwhelmingly support change, such as the issues in the OP. Obama ran on change and issues like those.

Now you can't even find someone who will draw a line in the sand, much less actually campaign on the record of reform over the last two years.

Every day, new details, same story.

[Jim Sagle]

22. My bottom signature line is my red line - Social Security.

A party that tampers with Social Security has no right call itself Democratic.

We shall see what happens.

[Blue_Tires]

21. ttt

[Individualist]

23. K&R