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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 08:18 AM
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Don't forget, Republicans also couldn't do anything without 60 Senate votes!
Edited on Wed Sep-22-10 08:20 AM by MannyGoldstein
So stop the sniveling! Our party's leadership is just as effective as theirs.

:sarcasm:, of course
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 08:24 AM
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1. Their Game Is Different...
It's strictly to obstruct and make this administration look inept. They've done a great job as few GOOPers have broken ranks and with it have made the 60 vote threshold the "standard" for all votes. Reid got rope-a-doped time and time again with promises of "working across the aisle" but when the whip was cracked, the football was pulled from old Charlie Reid.

If they gain control, their game will continue to obstruct and force legislation to make the administration look bad. They'll propose all sorts of tax breaks and budget busters that they know will get the corporate media wagging their tongues and then put the administration in unpopular positions. And if nothing passes, that's fine with them, too...we're already hearing about how many in the House would love to shut down the government and do nothing but investigations.

As has been the case, the GOOP only cares about power...getting it and holding onto it. But they can't govern.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 08:26 AM
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2. That is not true. The Democrats have blue dogs, LIEberman, and others who have no problem voting
Edited on Wed Sep-22-10 08:27 AM by still_one
with repukes if the issue benefits them financially, over whats good for the country








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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 08:33 AM
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3. Zero = Zero
it's true, no argument there
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 08:39 AM
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4. Right.
I remember how the stalwarts in our party blocked Bush's frantic campaign to attack Iraq. And that Patriot Act nonsense. And how we put our foot down when the torture stories started to appear. All a Republican Senate needs is about 47 votes to do whatever it wants.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 08:44 AM
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5. But Jackpine, Bush did push through two wars and the Patriot Act past (little) Dem opposition
silly Radical. The pukes need 45 to pass something and the Dems need 63 in the Senate.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 10:13 AM
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11. Oh, no!
I thought that was all a bad dream!
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 08:44 AM
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6. When Democrats find themselves in the minority again,
I wonder if they'll learn something. I still haven't forgiven their failure to filibuster Alito's confirmation. Maybe this was a necessary lesson. I am not anxious to find out, but I will be paying attention.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:16 PM
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14. I have no doubt the first act of Republican majority in the Senate would be to get rid of the...
filibuster.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:18 PM
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15. You think they'll have 67 votes?
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 12:06 AM
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19. I think they don't need 67 votes and neither do we.
If we do maintain the majority and this isn't the first act of the Democratic Senators, it's idiocy.

THE CONSTITUTIONAL OPTION TO CHANGE
SENATE RULES AND PROCEDURES:
A MAJORITARIAN MEANS TO OVER
COME THE FILIBUSTER*


http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Gold_Gupta_JLPP_article.pdf
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:22 PM
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16. The Grimace Face! Ackety. Judicial staff can be thrown out of Court for grimacing, but Al Grimace
wasn't thrown out of the State of the Union address.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 08:54 AM
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7. Stop whining!
Bill Press browbeat caller after call who brought up that very thing.

Spot-on, MannyGoldstein. If we wanted to, we could.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 09:09 AM
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8. Yeah, like the Dems so stymied every one of junior's major initiatives
that he couldn't get a thing done. ;)
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 09:46 AM
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9. Actually 67 if we indeed have a Democratic President
He could Veto anything they put forth..
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 10:02 AM
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10. No it is not. The Democrats are too weak kneed to fight
any bills or things the republicans would propose IF they were in charge. Look at how they kowtowed to the republicans during Bush's two stolen reigns.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 10:53 PM
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12. Hahahaha...
You-funny!!

they could pass everything they wanted with 50-50 because our quislings are always eager to help them out...in the name of bah-partisanship, of course :)
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:13 PM
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13. Once Again, Another DU Expressing Admiration For Republicans
Edited on Wed Sep-22-10 11:13 PM by TomCADem
I would think that a willingness to jeopardize our economy in the midst of the recession for cheap partisan points, but some people find it admirable, while holding Democrats in contempt.

Are you sure you are on the right board?
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:32 PM
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17. +1...nt
Sid
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 12:11 AM
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20. How does pointing out an obvious fact "express admiration?" for Republicans?
Edited on Thu Sep-23-10 12:12 AM by depakid
This seems to be a common theme around here these days- equating people with Republicans for pointing out how they've achieved goals politically- and what Democrats might learn from it.

Crikey, even the most sports minded of partisans ought to recognize that smart teams steal from opponents playbooks.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 11:40 PM
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18. Wrong. They will only need 51.
Democrats rarely filibuster.

At least we would have the President to veto the bills.
For now.
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