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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 01:31 AM Original message |
Facebook CEO gives $100 million to detroy Newark teachers' unions, charterize -- on Doprah |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. Sooo... you propose they not take it? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 01:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. glad you recognize it for what it is: sale of democracy to the highest bidder. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 02:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Yep. A hike in taxes to adeqately fund education leaves too much control in the unwashed masses... |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 02:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. so, basically you are opposed to philanthropy |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 02:20 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. so, basically you enjoy straw. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 02:26 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Please identify a few philanthropic efforts you don't equate with a conspircy |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 02:34 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. all those that actually are philanthropic, rather than tax-free investment & policy arms of the |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 02:40 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. This is not philanthropy. This is hiring the district to do his bidding. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 02:43 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. +100. jesus christ, bribes in broad daylight & they call it "philanthropy". |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:12 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. who is the founder of Facebook bribing? |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 02:57 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. The founder of Facebook's bidding? n/t |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:09 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. report cards will now be posted to the kids facebook page, |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:24 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. See, NOW you've identified the conspiracy!!! |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:28 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. If the district said, "We will take your $100 miilion, but we will do want we want... |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:43 AM Response to Reply #32 |
42. You've asked an interesting question. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:12 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. If the district said, "We will take your $100 miilion, but we will do want we want... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:28 AM Response to Reply #22 |
31. don't expect an answer from those two spinsters. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:33 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. I'll answer, once I stop laughing.... |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:32 AM Response to Reply #22 |
35. what makes you think the asshole even cares? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:42 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Because there is money to be made in them thar hills. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:50 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Wrong State. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:53 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I posted this as a cautionary tale. This scenario is playing out state after state. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 04:01 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. of course you did--because 12 schools in New York State are the bellwether |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 04:13 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. There are bellweathers for good or bad... |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 04:30 AM Response to Reply #55 |
61. So why didn't you pick a Newark one? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 05:22 AM Response to Reply #61 |
70. Some NJ history: the EMO, Advantage, Inc. and Bret Schundler and Golden Door Charter |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 05:55 AM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Jersey City, 2003, isn't Newark, 2010. And the Trustee in question was removed, wasn't he? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 06:04 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. you must have missed this: "Now Schundler is the Superintndent of education in New Jersey" |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 06:08 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Dude--the Trustee was PAUL SCHAEDER--not Schundler. Sounds like you |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 06:10 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. dude, i'm talking about SCHUNDLER, who arranged the public financing for the fraudsters - |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 06:14 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Then why are you posting an article about Paul Schaeder? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 06:19 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. why don't you review the thread & quit playing games. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 10:26 AM Response to Reply #82 |
88. Do you keep a chalk board in your kitchen by any chance? |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:59 AM Response to Reply #7 |
50. What an utterly irrelevant comparison. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 04:11 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. I seriously doubt he has much of an agenda |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 04:29 AM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Evidence? |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 04:39 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. You are the one claiming an agenda--hell, you're having conversations in your |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 06:16 PM Response to Reply #54 |
93. Then the most generous thing you can say is that he's ignorant. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 02:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Demanding ideological purity while offering no real solutions to actual problems |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 02:14 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. another vote for dictatorship counted. lol "more localized control". what bullshit. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 02:23 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. What the hell is wrong with Cory Booker? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 02:35 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Why no elected school board representing a diversity of opinions to hold meetings... |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 02:46 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Um, dude--there's no elected school board because NJ state is running |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Um, dude. That is my point. I get the MAYOR THINGY. And I undestand that the MAYOR THINGY... |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:21 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Is that the actual scenario? Or just the one in your head? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:30 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. you're funny. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:27 AM Response to Reply #20 |
30. oh for fucks sake, this is a billionaire narcissist looking for attention |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:43 AM Response to Reply #30 |
43. Ahem... Charter Schools’ New Cheerleaders: Financiers |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:52 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Again--this is the wrong state..... |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 04:03 AM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Yes. Because capital limits itself to investing in only one state. Indeed... |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 04:24 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Unlike NYState, NJ doesn't allow out-of-state companies to operate charters. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 04:40 AM Response to Reply #57 |
65. Link. Link. and link. You assert a lot but offer no evidence. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 05:16 AM Response to Reply #65 |
69. I offer you the actual charter law. Note it does not allow for net profits, either. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 05:41 AM Response to Reply #57 |
71. funny that KIPP is in new jersey, then, since their base is san francisco. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 06:04 AM Response to Reply #71 |
76. The schools in question are both run by NJ organizations-- |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 06:07 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. lol. any corporation can set up a state organization. so now we know that in fact, national |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 06:15 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. So now the Facebook conspiracy is international? Whatever. n/t |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 06:25 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. back to the conspiracy crap. cause you got nothing. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:41 AM Response to Reply #20 |
40. You don't want government officials involved in education? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:50 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Is the mayor of Newark the sole representative of all the people in that city? Nope... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:55 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Either there is an elected BOE or there is some elected official in charge who gets to make the |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 04:26 AM Response to Reply #48 |
59. BOE's in most districts hold regular meeting and hearings.... Mayors don't. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 04:33 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. I'm falling down and laughing over this post-----you know NOTHING about Newark. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 04:46 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Actually, what you don't get is that I know that NJ does not have a BOE |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 05:07 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Newark, you mean? |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 04:06 AM Response to Reply #44 |
53. It's fairly apparent you know NOTHING about the City of Newark..... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:19 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. lol. $100 million = zuckerberg control. that's $2500 for every kid in the district, about 17% |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:30 AM Response to Reply #24 |
33. The founder of Facebook wants to control Newark City Public Schools? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:33 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. you're funny. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 02:42 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. he's a school deformer. republican voucher & religious school proponent christie is going to |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 02:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Is Cory Booker part of Montsanto-Detroit conspiracy? The Obama/Oprah |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:21 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. you're not fooling anyone. the monsanto-detroit & international harvester-obama conspiracies |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:40 AM Response to Reply #25 |
39. Look, the threads are there for anyone to read... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:56 AM Response to Reply #39 |
49. yes, it's there for anyone to read. here, i'll post it again: |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 04:35 AM Response to Reply #49 |
63. Thank you for listing the conspiracy in such detail. n/t |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:22 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. tell me more about the international harvester one... |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 06:35 AM Response to Reply #18 |
84. LOL! |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 07:18 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Or maybe they finally instructed their readers "Shiny side out." |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 01:28 AM Response to Reply #9 |
103. No kidding. |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 10:32 AM Response to Reply #4 |
89. I absolutely agree. The naysayers, do nothing crowd is always out in force. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
3. Well, there goes the argument that Friday's show was about giving equal time to parents and teachers |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 02:49 AM Response to Original message |
17. You do realize that article acknowlegdes there ARE problems with the public schools, right? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:25 AM Response to Reply #17 |
29. Educator based reforms. Signifantly smaller classes... 15 or less. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:32 AM Response to Reply #17 |
36. the same program obama's kids get. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 04:14 AM Response to Reply #36 |
56. oh, a religious one? |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 04:25 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. You smart spinster!!! |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 05:48 AM Response to Reply #56 |
72. show me the religion classes. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:39 PM Response to Reply #72 |
91. All Sidwell students attend weekly mass or whatever Quakers call it |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 11:38 PM Response to Reply #91 |
101. uh, we call it "church" (or meeting). & attendance at church isn't required of sidwell students. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 12:53 AM Response to Reply #101 |
102. "Each week a Friends school community gathers for meeting for worship." |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 02:00 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. friends = quakers. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 05:24 AM Response to Reply #104 |
105. So, religion in school is okay as long as they call mass "quite time" |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 07:42 AM Response to Reply #105 |
106. only if you think "mass" and sitting silent without a preacher are the same thing. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. when that gathering is called a "meeting for worship" yes, that is a mass |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 10:11 PM Response to Reply #107 |
112. define "mass" |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #102 |
108. Wow, it's pretty obvious you know NO Quakers. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 07:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
87. The ubiquitous question. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 05:08 AM Response to Original message |
68. I would like to hear from you just once what you believe the |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 05:52 AM Response to Reply #68 |
73. school performance correlates with parents' income better than any other factor. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 07:53 AM Response to Reply #73 |
86. To tend to give the impression that you are a teacher |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. because it's a fact. my sympathies if being against plutocracy gives |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Ceased to be impressed with |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 10:51 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. doubt you ever were; small loss. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. I think you're peachy though. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. thanks, i was feeling sooooo bad when that mean man made fun of me. |
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NJGeek (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
95. uhh this is good, right? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. wrong. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #95 |
113. Yeah, that $100 million is to reform schools like the War on Terra |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
98. K&R |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-23-10 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
100. stop the privatization of our public school system at the expense of our poorest communities. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
109. kick |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
110. Do all these quislings have speech impediments? |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-24-10 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
111. Kick |
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