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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 09:41 AM
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Forbes bloggers rip apart D'Souza's mentally disturbed rant against Obama's 'Kenyan' mind
Dinesh D'Souza's original spew is here, and his juvenile answer to critics (other than the Forbes bloggers) is here.

A reply from the right, from Shikha Dalmia, a senior editor at the libertarian Reason Foundation:

http://blogs.forbes.com/shikhadalmia/2010/09/17/dsouza-to-obama-with-malice/

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Writers these days are supposed to cultivate a niche, and D’Souza seems to have homesteaded the intellectual goofiness spot all for himself. His post-9/11 tract, The Enemy at Home, which blamed American sexual decadence for inspiring the Twin Tower attacks, was so far out of left – or, was it, right? – field that even his team members abandoned him. And so far D’Souza’s Forbes piece has inspired the same reception — a collective “huh?” – from allies and opponents alike. The one exception is Newt Gingrich who has dubbed this the “most profound insight anyone has had about Barack Obama in six years.” But it would be possible to take the former Republican House speaker seriously only if he didn’t do the intellectual equivalent of howling at the moon with disturbing regularity these days. He has been making one over-the-top suggestion after another to prevent poor Imam Rauf from building his version of the YMCA near Ground Zero, even advocating the deployment of the government’s eminent domain powers to stop the project — a complete “refudiation” of his own cherished views about the sanctity of property rights.

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D’Souza’s thesis is so obviously flawed that one has to wonder what caused him to propose it. Accusing Obama of Keynesiasm or socialism or crony-capitalism — as the rest of us Obama critics are doing — is damning enough. Why does D’Souza need to go further?

Part of the reason no doubt is that D’Souza suffers from the pundit’s curse – the need to say something original, something different, regardless of how unsustainable. But the bigger reason is this: Socialism – no matter how unworkable – is still a fully elaborated socio-economic vision that has to be confronted on its own terms with arguments and evidence. One can accuse its advocates of being misguided or utopian or wrong. But one can’t accuse them of bad faith. Anti-colonialism, on the other hand, means not that Obama has the wrong ideas, but that he is on the wrong side. He is the “other.” And no argument is needed to deal with the “other.” Ad hominem attacks do just fine.

And there is not an ad hominem lead that D’Souza misses. D’Souza even declares open season on Obama’s family. In a parody of investigative journalism, he castigates the media for failing to explore Obama’s intellectual ties to his dad. He digs up a decades-old article by Obama Sr. making the case for Africans reasserting control over their own resources in order to damn Obama with guilt by association. “This philandering, inebriated African socialist, who raged against the world for denying him the realization of his anti-colonial ambitions, is now setting the nation’s agenda through the reincarnation of his dreams in his son,” D’Souza rants.

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And from the left, author of Forbes' Culture Mulcher blog, Craig Silver:

http://blogs.forbes.com/craigsilver/2010/09/22/fallacious-malicious-and-unpatriotic/


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Many staffers were dismayed to learn our pages were going to be turned over to a propagandist hack from the far-right fringe for what turned out to be a stupefyingly inane, quasi-racist bomb-toss at our president. Perhaps because the article was so utterly devoid of intellectual probity and indeed was for the most part absurd–imputing that the president, embroiled in an exceedingly difficult war abroad, is in effect on the other side–we thought and hoped this ugly unpatriotic rant wouldn’t be taken seriously or barely be noticed. Alas, it proved hard to ignore, having appeared, like bad breath and rotten teeth, in places like dentist offices across the land, as the White House noted.

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Note that I used the word “unpatriotic” above. I think many on the right need to have their feet held to the fire on this question, especially since they are so quick to charge everyone else with it when it suits their purpose.

I consider myself a political progressive. And I believe Forbes’ content on the whole is, surprise, surprise, basically middle-of-the-road or apolitical, otherwise I could hardly justify working here. I also consider myself a patriot. I think people of my particular political stripe are far more patriotic—more familiar with the principles on which the country is based–than those you often see wrapping themselves in the flag. We can quote more than just the Second Amendment. It means you do criticize the president for routinely breaking laws, for violating the Constitution and of course for working against the interests of the country. Interestingly, the article never claims the first two of these offenses. And for all its fevered, pretzel-logic stridulations, it fails to make any case for the latter.

I hope that the powers that be at Forbes will see that promoting such offal can’t help but damage the brand, keeping serious journalists from wanting to appear in our pages and maybe even advertisers. From what I can see by the feedback, even hard-core readers (not to mention serious-minded conservatives everywhere) were aghast.

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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 09:45 AM
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1. K & R
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 09:50 AM
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2. This is mildly reassuring.
At least the exceedingly extreme viewss are still in the arena of the extreme. The frightening thing, to me is how mainstream some of them are becoming.
And this:
...Newt Gingrich who has dubbed this the “most profound insight anyone has had about Barack Obama in six years.” But it would be possible to take the former Republican House speaker seriously only if he didn’t do the intellectual equivalent of howling at the moon with disturbing regularity these days.
Priceless!
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 09:55 AM
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3. Worse than zombies
D'Souza is a regular RW lawn jockey "intellectual" who is devoid of coherent thought that should have faded into obsurity a long time ago. Why won't they just stay gone? :banghead:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 07:12 PM
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7. Cold--but funny. You described his usefulness to the RW to a T. nt
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 10:09 AM
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4. Colbert took him to the woodshed on that whole 9/11 can be blamed on America's sexual practices
Which by that he meant acceptance of homosexuality. Colbert turned it around on him and asked what other things that the terrorists want should we be doing, and he completely missed the joke/sarcasm.

TlalocW
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 10:17 AM
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5. Watch for D'Souza to pop up on all the talk shows
Because producers are lazy, D'Souza is relentlessly available, and he's "controversial" or whatever adjective it is that drives the booking of talk show guests. D'Souza will be financially rewarded for this tripe with more money than you or I together see in two years.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 07:20 PM
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8. And don't foget that he's, what's the word I'm looking for?
Conveniently un-pasty-faced.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 08:39 AM
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10. 'whatever adjective:' INDIAN!!!
:sarcasm:
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 06:54 PM
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6. Kick
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 08:18 AM
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9. K & R
:thumbsup:
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 09:56 AM
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11. D'Souza's A Moron, Even By Conservative "Intellectual" Standards.

The fact that his brain-dead ruminations can still get printed violates the lowest possible standards of professional journalism---Peggy Noonan looks competent, by comparison.....
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nightgaunt Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 06:10 PM
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12. D’Souza was one of their dark skinned bright boys but now
He seems to have tasted from that dark well of phantasmagoria of whatever they think they want to see in someone becomes real despite the realities. The ultimate in dark magical thinking. Where proof or at least supporting circumstances are irrelevant to their ideology. Indeed their ideology does rule them. Forbes has really hit a new low, I am interested to see just what they will do now.

D’Souza's point isn't that President Obama is doing anything Constitutionally wrong, he is just interesting in righting wrongs to other nations including the USA toward other weaker, poorer countries. Not the worst thing to accuse a president of. But not true at all. If anything he has been so much like his reactionary predecessors that it is horrifying to those who supported him for other reasons that have since shown President Obama is lacking. As a Liberal or a Progressive he fails. But the Reich wing detractors only fault him for being like Bush and lying about it while conversely accusing him of being a Leftist and Socialist! They are rank opportunists who would sell out their previous ideas to make a political buck with their other constituents (the voters) like the TARP money. They are against it till they are for it.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 06:19 PM
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13. Distort D'Newsa! Now there's a blast from the past!
:puke:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 06:27 PM
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14. Good!!
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