If Gore ran for president and chose Lieberman as his running mate would you vote for him?

[oberliner]

[CTD]

1. But he'd know better this time.

So it's kind of beside the point.

Lieberman is actually the perfect running mate for Hillary. Two peas in a pod.

[dsa]

6. oh give it up already

i've had just about enough of this hillary bashing!

[William769]

13. Get use to it, it's only going to get worse.

But then when she does become our Democratic nominee, come hell or high water it will stop, or this place will become tombstone junction.

BTW Welcome to DU.

[Junkdrawer]

15. Yeah...this is an anti-Gore test marketing thread...

If you want to test anti-Hillary talking points, start your own thread... ;)

[Warren DeMontague]

23. "had just about enough"... You've been here for, what, 2 weeks?

Uh, if you intend to stick around, I'd suggest you get used to it.

[dsa]

25. i'm waiting for the clinton cavalry to come to my rescue

they've shown up once or twice before...

[Warren DeMontague]

26. Once or twice? Or all one or two of 'em?

I'd suggest maybe having a stick of gum or stepping outside for a smoke while you wait. :smoke:

[la la]

28. hey, hey, now.

I'll ride to the rescue!

[dsa]

30. now now, i think there were at least three

they even waved at me. :hi:

very refreshing compared to the "jane you ignorant slut" type comments i've gotten from the supporters of other candidates.

[Warren DeMontague]

31. Hell, they'll take you on a weekend retreat, love bomb you and feed you nothing but milk duds.

They're in serious need of new recruits.

[dsa]

33. what's a "love bomb"?

sounds like something a prostitute would charge extra for.

[Warren DeMontague]

40. Ah, I was referencing those mid-70s cult scare made-for-tv movies.

You know, the hare krishnas were gonna take your kids, isolate them from reality, make them believe a bunch of completely ridiculous, impossible, whacked out stuff, and send them back into the world as glassy-eyed, brainwashed messengers of "the word".

Then I'd imagine someone pointed out that there was really no difference between that and what the religious right is up to, and they toned down the PR machine.

[dsa]

44. no wonder i've never heard of it

i wasn't born for another decade.

[Warren DeMontague]

46. Well.... since you're a youngster (or I'm just intolerably old) let me put it this way:

(*bones creak*, gets out cane and whittlin' stick) In October of '92, while you were probably still in grade school, I was at the Daley Center in Chicago among a very large, enthusiastic crowd, where I saw Bill, Hillary, Al and Tipper for the very first time. So right off the bat, I *like* Hillary. I've always liked Hillary. But I like the 1993 version, or the 1972 version, a helluva lot more than I like the 2007 version. The problem is, from where she sits right now she is incapable (not to mention unwilling) of articulating a coherent and morally cogent answer on the subject of the Iraq War. And barring any major changes, that WILL be the primary issue of the '08 election. She thinks she can win by futzing around the edges and splitting the difference; she's trying to play Bill's old triangulation game, which was fine for the 90s-- but isn't going to work this time around. And Bill Clinton is a Michael Jordan when it comes to politics- I've never seen Hillary pull off his level of style or articulation.

She has real problems, even if -particularly if- she makes it to the nomination. I don't "hate" her, but I really don't want her as the nominee. There's a long list of people I think would be a better choice.

[dsa]

61. thanks for trying to save my soul from the dark side

but i don't share your bleak assessment. hillary isn't my ideal candidate (since the one i like best isn't going to run), but she's probably my #2. and i don't see how any other democrat can possibly beat her, except maybe gore if he decided to run. so you may as well jump on the bandwagon now and enjoy the ride!

and to make you feel even older, no, i wasn't even in grade school yet in 1992! :)

[Warren DeMontague]

62. She's not the dark side, not by any means.

But her nomination is not inevitable, either. No matter what they may want you to believe, she's hardly a shoo-in.

Trust me on this.

[DFW]

70. As a Gore "I wish-er," and if not undecided

I'm convinced at this point that no one is a shoo-in for our
nomination, and thank goodness for two big reasons.

First, I'd get REALLY bored between now and the 2008 election, and
second, what a stupid move it would be to give Rove and the "religious"
right a year and a half to plan their campaign!!

[William769]

37. Actually we have met our quota.

Now we are just waiting on the other candiates to catch up, just like in the polls. :rofl:

[Warren DeMontague]

41. As "inevitable" as it all is, I guess we'll see, won't we?

I mean, one of us is gonna be wrong, that's for sure.

[me b zola]

57. lame

[Carolina]

69. LOL

never thought about that combo, but they are a good fit.

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[la la]

3. how does

'fuck,no' sound?

[bigwillq]

4. Not this time

:mad:

Hell no...he would not get my vote.

[MadMaddie]

5. Not only NO but Hell NO

Any Democratic candidate or representative openly admitting to dealing with Lieberman does not get my support...

[Iris]

55. bingo!

That's just what I was gonna say.

[Emit]

7. Where's the "Hell No" option? n/t

[Mojambo]

8. Well, since this is fantasy land, sure.

I'll have my wife Jessica Alba drive me to the polling place.

[dsa]

11. my husband toby maguire and i will meet you there

aren't fantasies fun? :)

[Lost-in-FL]

9. Like this is going to happen

:sarcasm:


Please...

[stevedeshazer]

10. He already did, and I voted against him that time, too.

The choice of Lieberman cost him the election.

[skipos]

12. GREAT QUESTION

Who would have thought that the 2000 ticket would pair one of DU's faves with one of DU's most hated.

[peacetalksforall]

14. Absolutely not. Very clever question, though. nt

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

16. No, I'm not registered to vote on Bizarro Earth

and I don't feel like changing my voting status

[WillyT]

17. But He Won't, So I Will

:shrug:

[Gman]

18. It's the Democratic ticket, of course I'd vote for both of them

What? Vote for Nader instead? Yeah that worked real well in 2000. Look where we're at now.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

19. Nope. My nose will take only so much punishment.

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[Warren DeMontague]

21. It wouldn't happen.

Silly question.

Al Gore would have to be in a completely different place to pick Lieberman this time around. If he was anywhere near that place, he wouldn't be so ideally suited to be the candidate.

People need to remember, as onerous as Lieberman is, the calculations involved in picking him in 2000 were very different, and the reasons had more to do with Bill Clinton's dick than anything else. Not that it was a good calculation- but Gore made several bad calculations that campaign, and he has more than admitted as much in the time since.

Gore served Lieberman plenty of notice in 2004 when he endorsed Howard Dean. He more than kicked that guy to the curb. I see no reason to continually hang old Joe around Gore's neck like an albatross.

[AlCzervik]

22. 1st no way that would happen but if it did than no because he would have obviously

lost his damn mind.

[Awsi Dooger]

24. You've gotta be nuts to say no

LOL. It looks like everyone is intent on making a point. Even if it's the same point we've properly made thousands of times; we hate Joe Lieberman.

But in this case he's harmlessly tied to hero Al Gore. The presidency is at stake. The VP slot is all but irrelevant unless you're a clueless shrub and need to lean.

Obviously another Gore/Lieberman ticket would be the Democratic ticket. No one identifies the VP choice until the nomination is secure. Voting No here means you prefer the GOP slate, or won't vote at all. Congratulations. I hope that feels good.

[Warren DeMontague]

27. Hate to quibble, but he's NOT A DEMOCRAT anymore.

He forefeit that when he refused to accept the results of his DEMOCRATIC PARTY primary.

[oberliner]

64. Does he still call himself an "Independent Democrat"

Or has he given up that moniker?

[Fleshdancer]

29. I doubt this would happen, but if it did, I would still vote for Gore

While I loathe Lieberman, I'll tolerate him as VP (assuming Gore has competent security). Besides, we would also get Lieberman out of Congress and that would be a good thing. Besides, what would be my option? Vote republican?

[gravity]

32. It's a helluva lot better than voting for the republicans

[TahitiNut]

34. Well, I sure as hell wouldn't underwrite a life insurance policy for Gore, either.

Why not just put a bulls-eye on the back of all his suit coats? :eyes:

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

35. No.

nt.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

36. If Every Time You Peed Another George Bush Flew Out Of Your Urethra, Would You Continue To Go?

Never gonna happen hypotheticals are fun right? Not good for much else though.

[Warren DeMontague]

43. Ouch.

Good grief, man. I'm all for imagination, but... really.

[IDemo]

51. That would be a kidney stoner, wouldn't it?

[Clark2008]

81. Sure because we could flush those down the toilet.

:evilgrin:

[Hubert Flottz]

38. No, because I'd know that Al had been hitting the crack pipe with

Bush.

[Cha]

39. I've seen some weird

hypothetical questions around here but this one is beyond not worthy..why waste the bandwith?

lieman is a tragic, warmongering idiot and Gore has evolved into the man who is capable of leading the USA out of the abyss where the bushits have dumped it.

[Warren DeMontague]

42. "why waste the bandwidth?"

If I had to guess, it's because some folks can't think of anything worse to throw at the guy that will stick beyond his choice of a running mate seven years ago.

[Cha]

47. Yeah, I'm not even convinced

Gore "chose" lieman? Wasn't the dlc running things for him then?

Gore has evolved so much and lieman devolved into a degenerate, sub-human classification .

[Warren DeMontague]

49. And the world of 2000 was a universe away from where we are now.

People's primary objection to Lieberman -the Iraq War- wasn't a consideration.

[Cha]

53. There was that pesky

issue about lieman not wanting to have the Military votes disqualified even though they were legally late and going for the opposition.

And his tepid suck up debate to cheney..I wanted to fucking heave. But, yeah, ol' lieman was just warming UP.

[Warren DeMontague]

60. Oh, I wasn't thrilled with him. I had never heard of the guy until he got press for

criticizing Clinton's "immorality" in the Senate.

Picking him was one of many mistakes Gore made; the thing that is clear to me, at least, is that Gore really learned from those mistakes; and whatever he decides to do from here on out, he's going to listen to himself -and not "conventional wisdom" waterheads- first.

[Time for change]

45. Yes of course

I don't see any preferable alternatives.

[Perky]

48. Call me crazy, but I actually would not mind seeing Lieberman on the ticket

The caveat is that we have to be pretty damn sure that we could offset the loss of the Connecticut seat in the Senate.

A. We get Lieberman out of the Senate.
B. It takes out the repuke meme that we are all soft on defense.
C. He can be controlled as VP.

Not saying that he would be anywhere close to first choice....and I would hate to reward him for anything he has done, I just detest the fact that if he jumps ship it gives us a black eyes and put control of the senate back in the hands of the GOP


So if it looks like we are headed for a landslide and are going to solidify the senate thee are upsides which might be considered.

[Truth2Tell]

71. ?? "the loss of the Connecticut seat in the Senate"

already happened. The Dems lost the seat.

As for "the repuke meme that we are all soft on defense" - that needs to be addressed HEAD ON and AGGRESIVELY - not by appeasement or co-option of the repukes fear mongering agenda.

The twisted idea that Dems should in some way try to triangulate on issues of "toughness" is what killed Gore the last time around, IMHO.

[Raine]

50. YES I sure would

I vote for the top of the ticket and who sits in that spot. Gore's my man!

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

52. 1,000 times...

NO! Lieberman messed it up for Gore last time /period/

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[MODemocrat]

56. I would NOT vote for a Gore/Lieberman ticket

Can't believe Al would make that mistake again. I held my nose and voted for the ticket before, but sure
wouldn't do it the second time. I have absolutely no use for Joe Liebarman. He's not even a Democrat.:puke:

[Alexander]

58. Considering that Gore endorsed Dean over Lieberman in 2003...

I'd probably have other problems, like an impending heart attack, if he picked Joe again.

This thread is nonsense. It'll never happen.

[Madspirit]

59. I love Gore BUT

I would not vote for Lieberpig for all the money on the planet...
Lee

[Mutineer]

63. The answer is

hell fucking no.

[Skip Intro]

65. didn't even think about it, the answer is NO. But I don't think there's a chance in hell

Gore would want the bush enabler to be his rm again. I sometimes wonder if lieberman didn't help facilitate the theft of 2000. Either way, lieberman has now shown himself to be a warmongering fraud who neither respects the rule of law, our democracy, or our party, and I believe Gore, if he is planning on running, and has thought about potential rms, has ruled out entireley having lieberman on the ticket again.

[Greyhound]

66. No, if that happened and Al won, his life expectancy could be measured with a stopwatch. n/t

[BlooInBloo]

67. Nice! A fox-style wedge poll! Just as stupid as anything on foxnews. Genius!

[oberliner]

79. Give me a break

This isn't a "fox-style wedge poll".

It's an interesting question to ponder.

I haven't read anything other than genial responses to the question. Some emphatic, some humorous, some dismissive.

No divisiveness that I can see.

[Carolina]

68. HELL

no! Didn't even like the selection of Liebermann in 2000. Smarmly, Elmer Fudd sounding bastard.

I neither knew or cared who Liebermann was until his grandstanding on the Senate floor, condemning Clinton about the Lewinsky matter. Hated him for that as he struck me as a holier-than-thou hypocrite. And when, shortly after Gore selected him in 2000, I saw Timmy Rushbot gushing about the choice, I knew it was a bad move.

[Bryan]

72. Of course I would

I think enough other people wouldn't that it's a losing proposition, but as a hypothetical, sure.

I hate Lieberman's guts too, but the Vice Presidency would be the perfect place for him: it would crush the tiny fiefdom he's established in CT and clear the seat for someone else (hell, even the CT Republicans might put up someone who's to the left of Joe on cultural issues and national security), and it would condemn him to four to eight years of flying to state funerals and trooping up to the Hill to break ties, after which he'd be too old to be an heir apparent. If we could keep Al's cholesterol down, we'd have it all sorted out.

[StarryNite]

73. Yes I would if for no other reason

than it would be interesting to have a Democrat as President and a rethuglican VP.

[MrSlayer]

74. No. Because it would mean Gore has lost his mind.

We already have an insane President.

[DFW]

75. True enough

But don't worry about Al Gore's sanity.

There is about as much chance of Al Gore picking Lieberman again
as there is of Barack Obama or John Edwards picking Pat Robertson.

Not even worth speculating about.

[MrSlayer]

77. Oh, I agree.

I'm really hoping Gore will jump in. Gore/Clark is a landslide winner. I know he'd never pick Lieberman, I'm just playing along with the ridiculous scenario.

[Wiregrass Willie]

76. If he even had a dream about choosing Holy Joe, I wouldn't vote for him n/t

[chknltl]

78. I take it few of us here care for Senator Palpatine.

Oh Come on, you know you've noticed the resemblence... and they look kinda like each other too!

[Pachamama]

80. Yes - and I did already once....

:hi:

would do it again, however I believe that the world and certainly Al Gore know so much more about ole Joe, that choosing him as a running mate would never ever ever happen again...