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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 10:48 PM
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Log Cabin Republicans Outraged at Obama Administration Filing Objection to DADT
Source: Log Cabin Republicans
(press release)

Washington, DC (September 24, 2010)– Log Cabin Republicans are angered by the United States Department of Justice decision to file an Objection to the United States District Court’s ruling to delay the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.”

“We are deeply disappointed with this Administration’s decision” says Log Cabin Republicans Executive Director R. Clarke Cooper. “Yet again, the Obama Administration has failed to live up to its campaign promise to repeal this unconstitutional law for the servicemembers of this country.”

... "The Justice Department's objections fail to recognize the implications of the government's defeat at the trial. It is as if the South announced that it won the Civil War," said Dan Woods, White & Case attorney who is representing the Log Cabin Republicans. "The objections also fail to mention that the court has previously denied the government's requests for a stay on three prior occasions and nothing has changed to suggest that a stay is now appropriate; if anything, the Senate vote this week shows that the court was correct in denying the prior requests for a stay. But what is most troubling is that the government's request for a stay ignores the harm that Don't Ask, Don't Tell causes to current and potential members of our Armed Forces. That is the saddest, most disappointing, and, in light of the President's position, most hypocritical part of the objections."

Read more: http://online.logcabin.org/news_views/reading-room-back-up/dont-ask-don-t-tell-legal-action/log-cabin-republicans-5.html
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 10:53 PM
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1. Log Cabin Republicans
Idiots! :wtf: :rofl:
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 10:56 PM
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2. this is definitely one time the "Where was your outrage when...?" card can be played! n/t
Edited on Fri Sep-24-10 10:56 PM by pepperbear
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 11:11 PM
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5. Not really .... The Log Cabin repugs are repugs and they have
sold their soul...
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 09:54 AM
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24. Which is why they only sued for themselves, not all gay people. n/t
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 11:01 PM
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3. Sorry but this just cracks me up.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 11:07 PM
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4. Those hypocritical pigs can go fuck themselves
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 11:12 PM
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6. They are Republicans. They support the Senators who voted against repeal of DADT.
How completely unprincipled. If the Congress did their job, these complaints would be null and void.
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LonePirate Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 11:15 PM
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7. Interesting. They are doing more to end DADT than Obama and they are being scorned for it.
We can disagree with almost all of their politics; but their intentions are certainly in the correct place by wanting to end this bigoted, hurtful and unconstitutional policy.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 11:20 PM
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 11:21 PM
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9. +1000 +++ n/t
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 11:28 PM
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10. It's really quite incredible. I would never have believed someone who predicted any of this.
I can only believe, or hope, that the scorn registered above is due to people misreading the 1st sentence of the article, which is somewhat ambiguously worded. The LCR have scored a terrific victory in court over DADT and its unconstitutionality, but the Obama Administration is defending this vile policy and dragging ass in every way. The LCR didn't force candidate Obama to pledge to overturn DADT. They also aren't responsible for the betrayal of Lgbt Democrats by the Obama Administration. They are forging ahead on their own with civil rights, and unfortunately finding they have to fight the man who pledged to be a "fierce advocate" for gay civil rights, every step of the way. Then to compound the improbability of all these developments, people who claim to be Democrats come to heap scorn on a group that has ACTUALLY struck blows for civil rights. Is it jealousy? Is it shame? Is it rank cult-of-personality partisanship? I don't know, and I don't know this place anymore.
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LonePirate Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 11:44 PM
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13. Well said! It's as if the progressive goal is secondary to the person(s) trying to achieve it.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 08:15 AM
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16. It certainly is when those persons are oh-so nobly working from narrow self-interest
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 09:54 AM
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25. LCR only sued on behalf of themselves, not others. That is not a progressive goal. n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:48 AM
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31. Yes!
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Plantaganet Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 12:12 AM
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15. Credit Where It's Due...
"I can only believe, or hope, that the scorn registered above is due to people misreading the 1st sentence of the article, which is somewhat ambiguously worded. The LCR have scored a terrific victory in court over DADT and its unconstitutionality, but the Obama Administration is defending this vile policy and dragging ass in every way. The LCR didn't force candidate Obama to pledge to overturn DADT. They also aren't responsible for the betrayal of Lgbt Democrats by the Obama Administration. They are forging ahead on their own with civil rights, and unfortunately finding they have to fight the man who pledged to be a "fierce advocate" for gay civil rights, every step of the way. Then to compound the improbability of all these developments, people who claim to be Democrats come to heap scorn on a group that has ACTUALLY struck blows for civil rights. Is it jealousy? Is it shame? Is it rank cult-of-personality partisanship? I don't know, and I don't know this place anymore."

Agreed. Like it or not, the LCR are actually in the vanguard on this issue.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 09:46 AM
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21. The LCR only filed on behalf of itself---Obama seeks repeal for all.
They are consistent with republican selfishness, though, aren;t they....
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 08:21 PM
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38. Seeks repeal for all......how?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 08:17 AM
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17. I stand by what I said
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 08:18 AM
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18. Its their intentions that are in doubt.
If you want to defend republicans, do it someplace else. No harbor for bullshit here.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 09:43 AM
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19. Really? So how many Republican votes did they get for its repeal the other day?
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 09:45 AM
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20. They only sued on behalf of their own membership---Obama seeks repeal for all. n/t
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 08:20 PM
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37. Gay Republicans
Get it? It's so pathetic, it's amusing.
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BlueCheese Donating Member (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 11:39 PM
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11. They may be Republicans...
... but they're right on this issue. And gay Republicans deserve equal rights as much as gay Democrats.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 09:47 AM
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22. They only sued for themselves--how is that right?
Edited on Sat Sep-25-10 09:49 AM by msanthrope
Let's not forget that they only sued on behalf of themselves....their own membership.

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BlueCheese Donating Member (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 04:30 PM
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36. I'm not a lawyer.
Are they allowed to see on behalf of other people? Did Brown's family sue the Topeka school board for everyone, or just their daughter, or just the folks in Topeka?

Demanding your own civil rights isn't a bad thing. Frankly, they're right. And they're not the only gay rights group objecting to the administration's action.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 11:43 PM
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12. Gay GOP group gives Cornyn award after 'no' vote to move on DADT repeal
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:26 AM
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28. How could anyone think the log cabin repubs were for anyone but themselves?
They're repukes, that should be their first clue and from then on discount everything they do.

Jeez, how many times do people fall for this crap!
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 11:54 PM
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14. HYPOCRISY! Did a single Republican support them on DADT vote in the Senate?
Democrats tried to repeal it, but were blocked by 100 percent opposition from Republicans.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:15 AM
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27. kind of what I was thinking
they wouldn't need the courts at all and this law would be history if a single person in the Senate in the party they say represents them voted for it or even more funny Obama had removed AGs and cleaned up the Justice Department that Bush stocked full of Regents University know nothings Republicans. You can get all cheesed about Obama not being liberal enough if you yourself voted for liberal candidates, but if you yourself vote for conservative ideologues then why would you expect the federal government to be suddenly transformed into a liberal leaning entity?
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 02:29 PM
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34. Of course, the Log Cabin Republicans Give Their Party A Free Pass
...and blame the Democrats.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 09:53 AM
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23. Only non-lawyers are gonna fall for Dan Woods' cynical bullshit----

***The LCR made a decision to only sue on behalf of their own membership....

***That kept their litigation costs and efforts down.

***Now, they want a judgment that encompasses non-parties--which they KNOW they cannot get.

***So, for short-changing on the front-end of litigation, they are now going to bitch when the court smacks down their associational standing claim....

All the while never admitting that they didn't have the courage to take on a single actual servicemember's case.



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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:02 AM
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26. Did they happen to notice how the vote broke down in the Senate? Fuck 'em.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:38 AM
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29. Who DADT?
Don't ask.
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snort Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:41 AM
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30. Umm
Washington, DC (September 24, 2010)– Log Cabin Republicans are angered by the United States Department of Justice decision to file an Objection to the United States District Court’s ruling to delay the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.”

Hmm. That seems to say that the Administration is objecting to a delay in the repeal of DADT.

What are they mad about?
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:58 AM
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33. It's poorly worded: the Obama Admin has filed to delay repeal of DADT
Edited on Sat Sep-25-10 11:16 AM by kenny blankenship
Here are the headlines to the quoted paragraph:

"Log Cabin Republicans Outraged at Obama Administration Filing Objection"

"DOJ Files Objection to delay “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” Repeal"

-=-=-=-=-
To delay, as in in order to delay the repeal of DADT. Not that the Obama DOJ object to delaying the repeal of DADT. Delaying the repeal is exactly what they are trying to accomplish now.

The Obama DOJ has filed an objection; the purpose of the objection is to delay repeal of DADT. A Federal court has found DADT unconstitutional (DUH!) and the Obama Administration, which argued that it was constitutional and lost, is now attempting to block this legal finding from going into effect by filing an objection. It has attempted three times already to get a stay from this federal Judge, and now it is objecting to the fact that they keep losing the legal argument.


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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:48 AM
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32. I want to hear why and and How
Anyone can defend .........Gays that have enough money
and power that they can say these things?

Blue Dogs......I'm reminded of the CAMPS.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 03:33 PM
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35. Here is the
Roll Call on the DADT vote.

All the LCR have to do is pressure two Republicans to vote for the bill. President Obama will sign the repeal into law. DADT will be history.


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