If Al Gore doesn't run will you consider him washed up?

[RestoreGore]

Is the obsession here with him running for president (which I am sure is only political) the only worthy thing he can do to elicit support or conversation about him here? I actually recall going to a "Gore support" site a while ago where one of the administrators actually claimed that if he didn't run in 2008 he would be finished, of course, after saying he needs to lose weight. Some support. So, not in poll form but in question form, if he doesn't run for chairman of the military industrial complex in 2008 is he washed up?

I already know the answer to that question, and think I can say with relative surety that he most certainly will not be washed up. This is actually the best phase of his life and I see absolutely great things coming in the next chapters of his life and ours for him doing this work he is doing now for our planet. But of course, this is a political board, so God forbid anyone support him here without waving pom poms and actually believing the words coming out of his mouth lest they be banished to the corner.

As his wonderful wife Tipper stated in the TIME article The Last Temptation of Al Gore, he has access now to business leaders and heads of state globally, great influence, the necessary resources, and can do what he wishes to do regarding this crisis his way for as long as he wishes to without compromising his soul or who he is, so who would give that up? I sure as hell know I wouldn't... Not to be a part of this toxic system. Hell, I just read tonight that people are saying Bloomberg if he should enter is willing to spend 1 BILLION dollars to buy the White House. This country has jumped the shark as far as politics is concerned. It is a farce, a circus, and a side show, and the last thing I would want for Mr. Gore to do is join them... not when he is now so far beyond all of that rhetoric and making progress on a crisis that from what I can see will take a great amount of time to disseminate to the people enmasse without much time left to do it and without the help of a federal government that has FAILED us on this crisis.

[whistle]

1. Al Gore was washed up after the 2000 election politically

...if he attempts to run for president again he'll loose

[RestoreGore]

2. Because Americans are brainwashed and ignorant on the whole

As I have stated many times before, he is too good to run for president in this country as the system stands.

[malaise]

3. As long as he keeps on fighting for important

issues, I'll back his decision.

[bdamomma]

5. yea me too, the man has a love and is concerned about

the environment and I will support him in that endeavour.

[frogcycle]

19. your opinion is tainted by your lack of basic command of the language n/t

[sweetladybug]

29. whistle, Al Gore WON in 2000 and he will WIN again if he runs.

But if election fraud is not taken care of, no Democrat will have the honor of taking the oath of office for President of the United States.

[SammyWinstonJack]

35. I doubt that he would want to "loose" again. BTW, he didn't "loose" in '00, so...

how could he "loose" again? :eyes:

[Warren DeMontague]

57. He might, if his shoelaces came lose, and he was to loose his place in a speech

and then his favorite baseball team was to loose the world series in extra innings, while his bowels were exceptionally lose.

[gatorboy]

85. Loose as a goose!

:rofl:

[Warren DeMontague]

55. Wel, if yoo saay so. Then I gues it muust be troo. nt

[racaulk]

4. No, he will not be washed up.

He is doing (and will continue to do) great things for our planet, regardless of whether or not he ever sits in the White House again. I have much respect for Mr. Gore, and I don't think I could personally ever consider him "washed up."

[RestoreGore]

6. Thank you. I couldn't agree more.

[sheerjoy]

23. Ditto. n/t

[nam78_two]

7. Of course not.nt

[sproutster]

8. Of course not

But I would like to see him a policy maker instead of being ignored by the current sitting monarch.

[bigwillq]

9. Not at all.

He'll still be a valuable asset in other forums.

[Bjornsdotter]

10. Not at all

...in fact I have a feeling that I will like him more and more based on the things he has done/will be doing in the future.....just like Carter. I admire Carter more every year and I see the same thing happening with Gore.

Cheers

[JVS]

11. more retired than washed up

[RestoreGore]

13. only retired from holding political office

I don't think he will ever be retired from influencing events in our world.

[frogcycle]

20. retired!?!

the Time article comments that friends have joked he should take a break from his schedule and run for president

[JitterbugPerfume]

12. Al Gore is an American hero

and I support any decision he makes regarding politics, the environment , and just about anything else.

We should be so lucky as to have him as president.

[DavidDvorkin]

14. I will never speak to him again

Harrumph.

Okay, so I've never spoken to him at all. But it will still be true.

Of course, if he does run for president, odds are I'll never speak to him.

[lonestarnot]

15. He can take a bath or a shower.... soo k by me. And he can be a real President if he wants.

[Xhanatos]

16. Nope.

Even if Gore decides to not run in '08, or even '12, I will not feel he is "washed up". He continues to champion important issues such as Global warming effectively from outside of the WH.

[man4allcats]

17. Washed up? Hardly.

I once posted here that through his efforts to address this global climate crisis, Gore has found a way to be the acting U.S. President without actually residing in the White House. Gore is a leader of this nation at a time when America has far too few that can genuinely be so designated. Bush is a jerk and a bad joke. Gore is as washed up as Jimmy Carter is. Both men are beacons of hope in the blackness of the jungle that the United States has become. Tipper Gore is right. Why would Gore give up what he is doing now in exchange for a grievously sullied title and position? As you note, you wouldn't, and neither would I were I in his place.

[frogcycle]

18. I am not going to bother to address the question

As you already know, I agree with you.

He will decide how best to contribute to the country and the world. I will support his decision.

On a related topic - I just read the Time article and book excerpt. Pretty good article.

In reading the book excerpt, I could not contain myself. Had to stop several times and just shake my head. Not at the actual message, but just the ability to express oneself coherently. The title of the book says it all, of course, but as he described the phenomena of changes in mass media and how that has impacted the dumbing down of the electorate, I kept thinking of the contrast with nearly every person in the public eye - whether politician, business leader, news reporter/*commenter, whatever, and the sound bites and fluff that pass as actual reasoned discourse and it was like entering the Twilight Zone. It was like reading someone not yet pulled in to the alternative universe and thus still able to perceive its lunacy.

That this man's dogged determination to get the word out, to find a way to get through to the masses despite their disdain is pilloried by the likes on Inhofe, Beck, Limbaugh... that he is attacked for his electric bill, air travel, etc. by these mental midgets, and that large parts of the populace - the very people he seeks to save from their own stupidity - lap it up with their Jerry Springer/National Enquirer/American Idol world view is a travesty beyond description.

I suppose I am gushing, but dammit, it is frustrating to watch the world going down the tubes and those who actually both care and have the ability to help have to "take a licking and keep on ticking" in their quest to help.

Al Gore and I are almost identical in age. I have been an admirer of his since he entered the Senate. The world needs him, but, quite simply, the world will go on after both he and I have turned to dust. Oh, there may not be (probably won't be) a United States of America; the human population may crash from the economic devastation from massive loss of habitat and food supply due to climate change, with a pandemic to finish it off. But the planet will go on. Al has a decade or two to do what he wants to to be able to look himself in the mirror and say "you did your best." Those who would judge him can go to hell.

the word "comentator" is one of the manifestations of the dumbing of the language and its users, and I refuse to use it

[RestoreGore]

21. Well said...

And being able to look in that mirror and say you did it without having to compromise your conscinece is something I personally respect. Thanks.

[dweller]

22. if a washed up

ie: beached whale was his running mate, i'd still vote for him.

come to think of it, that might help him get the message across.
dp

[Viva_La_Revolution]

24. absolutely not

His best years are yet to come, whether (please, God!) or not he is elected our true president.

[frogcycle]

25. the one place where we disagree is your last sentence

Yes, the shark has been thoroughly jumped. However, the climate crisis is so intimately entwined in energy policy and economic policy and thus so "political," despite AG's correct assertions that it should be NOT a political issue but a moral issue, I don't believe that the issue can be addressed without correcting the runaway unregulated capitalism that is driving it. And that demands political change. It demands that the whole laissez faire movement started in the Reagan administration needs to be knocked in the head.

The idea that the free, unregulated, multinational corporations will somehow decide that being "green" is better than making obscene profits, paying obscene bonuses, while employing near-slave labor is absurd. History demonstrates that when the power rests in the hands of the few, then teh many get screwed. And those few frankly don't give a damn about the planet. If they achieve their dream of a world-wide feudal society, they know that they and their heirs will be comfy in their castles, and the flooding and famine won't touch them. It does not really matter how well educated "we the people" are, how many low-energy lightbulbs we install, if the necessary major sea changes in the way things work don't happen, it's over. Cheney's secret cabal to develop an "energy policy" is a perfect illustration. The few in power wanted to achieve domination of the mideastern oilfields and they put the wheels in motion to start the process in their first weeks in power.

All the hue and cry from those of us who thought it was bad to invade, was just "a tale
told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

The wheelspinning that is going on now trying to counter this criminal enterprise by playing by the rules is just a continuation of that. They own the media, they own most of congress, they own the SCOTUS, their coup is near complete. They are perfectly content with their 20-something approval ratings, because they don't care what the 80% think, any more than medieval nobility cared what the serfs thought.

Long-winded rant, I know, but my point is that it may be that the only way to actually effect real change is to tackle the cabal, break it up, reverse the deregulation, bring back antitrust regulation, along with public funding of elections. Only with a housecleaning of the cabal that has taken over the country from "we the people" can "we the people" actually work seriously to tackle the environmental/climate crisis.

[RestoreGore]

33. Again, I agree with you

This cabal is simply a representation of the way business has been done in this country for decades. It is so entwined into everything that it is going to take one huge pair of clippers to set us free from it. Actually, what I meant by jumped the shark was that political campaigns in this country have become such a sideshow that they do not really address important issues for any other reason but to gain votes for the person spouting out what they think the best plan is accordng to polls... then once they get in those plans are totally forgotten, and it is back to business aa usual. That is why I now believe that a grassroots effort to enlighten those who have fallen prey to the media propaganda is in order in order to precipitate that breaking up. Legislation of course is a factor in all of this, however that will not come about in a way that is satisfactory to really dealing with this unless there is an unprecedented grassroots movement in this country to sweep them out. I really hope that can be done, because time is of the essence.

[frogcycle]

61. well. the point I never really got around to making

was that in order to accomplish what he wants to, Gore just might have to be president.

[Kurovski]

26. Well, Spanky...

Gore won't be, but if he DOES run you just might be washed up.

You'll have far fewer opportunities to smack DU around.

[kiteinthewind]

41. .

:eyes:

[Kurovski]

47. You're absolutely right, Restore Gore really is pretty transparent.

:thumbsup:

[kiteinthewind]

60. Every damn time a Gore for Prez thread comes up, she is there to tell us all what he REALLY wants.

I wish she would just go find another sandbox to piss in for once. She in NOT the last word on Al's wishes. I think he is just waiting, first because he can-no need to get in this early and be part of the 'trash the other candidate' game and second, he already has a vast base of support, both feet on the ground and money. I know I am just waiting for the word, and I will work non-stop for him and drop whatever cash I can scrape up to help him. I don't think he is being driven by the money, I think he is playing it smart and waiting purposefully. It is a very smart move at this point. My bet is late summer or early fall he will announce.
:toast:

edited to add: Just realized RG started this thread, so I guess she has the right to piss in the Al for Prez sandbox! :eyes:

[Kurovski]

76. I'd say that the goal of the original post as stated commenced

a pissing match, so fire away!

And things were going so well for a while there. But it appears RG has a job to do, and by golly, it's gonna get done!

[kiteinthewind]

81. LOL!

:)

[earth mom]

27. Give it up. You aren't fooling anyone.

:eyes:

[Warren DeMontague]

32. .

:patriot:

[RestoreGore]

34. Thanks for your intelligent and cogent imput.

Make sure you also put that in your next letter to Al Gore telling him he isn't fooling you with his words because he is lying. Tell him you think he will be a "has been" as his supporters on another site called him if he doesn't do what YOU want YOUR way. Tell him his work now is simply not something you can support unless it leads to a political battle to give you something to dish about here. Go ahead, for once tell the truth, because you aren't fooling anyone by constantly coming at me when I am simply supporting his own words. It then speaks volumes about what you really think of him.

[Kurovski]

48. We'll leave the obsessive stalking of Al Gore to you. (language warning)

And how many fucking threads are you going to start, merely to let everyone know how much better you are than them?

If someone is only interested in Gore as a president, what the fuck of it? What goddam business is it of yours?

If you want to imagine yourself better than the world, in the arms of Al--apparently the real object of your often bizarre obsessiveness--why can't people just not give a shit about Al UNLESS he runs for president?

It's not fucking good enough for you that 70% of Americans say they're willing to do anything necessary to reverse environmental damages.

Without someone in the White House 100% committed to taking hold of that 70% and making it all possible, IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.

People will spend the rest of their lives begging for scraps, activism wasted, and will go to their graves with minimal if any changes in the environment.

Just look at how thirty years of environmental progress was reversed by one president in a matter of four years! They started up IMMEDIATELY to dismantle it.

Well, imagine that! Who knew a president could do all that? Whaddaya fucking know? Will wonders ever cease?

I guess you learn something new thing every freaking day, huh?

And Al Gore knows it too. He knows how much he can do in the White House, so the little shit (forgive me Al!)is just shirking his duty. Maybe he just sees the whole Global Warming thing as a chance to make money? Maybe that's why he doesn't want to run, it would end that sweet gravy train of his.

Just being president doesn't pay too well. And Al was raised a rich boy. Maybe that's what's taking precedence in his life. Making the dough.

If Al Gore runs, then I'll believe that he's serious about the Global Warming thing. If he doesn't, I just can't help but doubt the man's sincerity.

[Swamp Rat]

68. If only he had been in the White House for the last 6 years...

:kick:

AL GORE 2008!

[Kurovski]

70. Really. He would not have sat on his ass

and let people die in their own homes.

Neither would Kerry. I think even Caligula might have done SOMETHING.

Al Gore will be our next president. :hi:

[Swamp Rat]

72. He IS my president.

Al Gore SHOULD be president right now and WILL BE president in 2008, if I can help it. :)

Btw, what's up with these weird threads? Is this some sort of psyops, or trick to dissuade Americans from voting for Gore, because he is somehow not a viable candidate? :D



:D

[Kurovski]

73. Shhhh....

shhhhhh....

Shit, I dunno. :shrug:

[Swamp Rat]

75. LOL!

.- .-.. .-.. ... -..- ... - . -- ... --. --- .-.-.- ;)

[Kurovski]

78. Say, I have a question on that "One nation under surveillance" thing...

Did you use rainbow colors to celebrate George's bisexuality, or was that just an artistic coincidence?

[earth mom]

83. President Gore in New Orleans...doing his job!

[edwardsdefender]

28. No, history will consider him "robbed."

[RestoreGore]

40. yes, and consider the people of this nation complicit in what followed n/t

[illinoisprogressive]

30. The obsession is with the deluded. Gore is never going to be washed up.

He is relavant as long as he is doing what he WANTS to do and he is OUT OF LOVE with politics.

[Warren DeMontague]

31. No. And define "only political".

How is that less noble than... what? You do understand that the President of the United States has the capacity to effect great change on this planet, don't you?

Do you really want an answer to your question, or do you just want to grouse and axe-grind at the majority of us who think he clearly would make the best next President of the United States?

[RestoreGore]

36. Seems you already answered it

So what's your problem? Then perhaps you can tell me why Clinton didn't do anything regarding this climate crisis for all of the talk about the power they have and how in a real Democracy that power is more than the power of men. And don't come back at me with that the Congress was Republican BS. Even DEMOCRATS voted Kyoto down, and they tried to talk Al Gore OUT of going to Kyoto. I then want an answer to back up your claim to explain why presidents then have not done ANYTHING on this for the last THIRTY YEARS if they have so much "power."

[Warren DeMontague]

54. What's MY Problem?

That's funny. You are the one projecting a whole line of baloney onto the supporters of an Al Gore run- namely, that we're criticizing him, pestering him, trying to force him into something counter-productive to the Environmental movement... Can you show me ONE example where ANYONE on this board said anything resembling "Al Gore will be washed up if he doesn't run"? Seems to me that everyone here who wants him to run has nothing but the utmost respect for the guy and his work- and most of us have the attitude that if he doesn't run, for whatever reason, it's our collective loss, but it certainly won't diminish the man in our eyes.

Clinton couldn't get Kyoto passed in the late 90s, that's true. But the world has changed. The evidence of global warming is undeniable- with the right, committed leader behind the bully pulpit, yes I believe things could be accomplished. I do NOT believe, somehow, that Al Gore would be able to do LESS from the White House than he can now. That, I feel, is a ridiculous assertion.

And if not Al Gore, just who do you think should be the next President of the United States? Because your gripes aside, I think the last 7 years are ample evidence that a bad President can cause a hell of a lot of havoc just as a good one can move things in a positive direction. (Bill Clinton, for all his faults AND the Republican Congress, DID accomplish many good things) So who do you think should be the next President of the United States? Do you even care? And if not, what are you doing on a message board that focuses primarily on American politics?

[RestoreGore]

64. Sorry, your excuse is not acceptable

Clinton could have allowed Mr. Gore to do what he is doing now then to change the world by enlightening the people. I don't accept that excuse anymore. As for the rest of your response, people are harrassing him, pushing him, kneeling before him as if he is some sort of God begging him, and basically not even listening to his own words and I have every right to make that observation. So sorry it doesn't jive with the usual ankle biters here.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/20/magazine/20wwln-gore-t.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin

Good article here, BTW... I like the ending to this paragraph:

We had moved on to complexity theory, which Gore would really immerse himself in if only he had the time, and then to the concept of nested systems, which of course had been developed by the late psychologist Uri Bronfenbrenner, when a woman in a blazing orange shirt emerged from her flight, did a double take and cried, “Isn’t that AL GORE?!” There was no ignoring this fan. As she came over to thank Gore for trying to save the planet, I saw that my bags were in the way. “I’ll move them,” I said; and Gore, before he could think, said, “No, don't."

[Warren DeMontague]

79. Um, way to run away from my post and clearly avoid answering my question.

I'm not making "excuses". Once Al Gore is President, and not Vice President, then he can be held responsible for what his administration does or doesn't do.

I find it increasingly curious that you won't answer a simple, straightforward question, like: If Al Gore shouldn't be the next President of the United States, who should?

[RestoreGore]

80. I'm not supporting ANYONE and not thinking of that now

I have more important things to do now than obsess over that. My focus is on thisi climate crisis and supporting Mr Gore's current endeavors.

[countingbluecars]

37. Silly question. eom

[RestoreGore]

38. Oh, I agree

But it was asked as an observation based on what some of his own "supporters" on the Internet have stated in their frenzy to push him out there regardless of his words and deeds. As I stated in the OP he will never be washed up or finsihed if he doesn't run, so yes, it most certainly is silly.

[janx]

86. Then why--

Then why did you post it?

[RestoreGore]

88. response

From the OP:

I actually recall going to a "Gore support" site a while ago where one of the administrators actually claimed that if he didn't run in 2008 he would be finished, of course, after saying he needs to lose weight. Some support. So, not in poll form but in question form, if he doesn't run for chairman of the military industrial complex in 2008 is he washed up?
~~~~~~~~~~
To understand better why anyone who supports this man would say he will be a "has been" if he does not run in 2008. I actually saw that on the Gore Support Center a couple of months ago posted by someone working with algore.org, (and it has bothered me since) and was gauging response to that question based on what I see by some as a preoccupation with only discussing 2008 regarding this good man. And since this is a forum where such questions are allowed I exercised my right to do so, and am happy to see that many who actually decided to respond to this as adults do not share that view as I certainly do not share it either. Answer your question? I truly hope so, because I don't believe I need to explain myself with every post I type here simply because there is a contingent here that carries a grudge.

[Kurovski]

44. Restore Gore takes every opportunity to put the smack-down on a Gore run

So she's often full of silliness.

My very favorite disruptor. I think she's the wave of the future, should Al Gore actually run.

The hardcore enviro's who want to keep Gore to themselves, and the Corporate polluters will both be saying the same thing if Gore runs.

[Orsino]

39. It might be that he will do more for us right where he is.

As president, he would wield enormous power--but would the compromises he would have to make to get there effectively neuter him? I dunno. I think he'd still be a great prez now, better than he would have been had he taken office in '01.

[flaminbats]

42. has Gore given up on Tennessee?

if he has, then my answer is yes..Gore is politically washed up. if Gore runs for Governor or the U.S. Senate in his home state and wins, that would be a political comeback which couldn't be ignored.

[ldf]

43. i'll be the one to take your "bait" of a thread

yes. if he does not run, he WILL be a washed up hasbeen.

for eight years i practically worshipped bill and hillary, but there has been enough time and distance from their leadership that i see the damage they have done. and quite frankly, i do not want bill back in the whitehouse. the abomination in the whitehouse now is a direct result of bill clinton.

al was a player in that administration, and did have a more powerful role in the vice presidency, but the ideas and leadership originated with bill. and the baggage.

although bill was a much better leader than what we had previously had, and his intentions were good, overall he failed, both in not being strong enough to BE the CIC, but also in leaving office in such a way as to ensure that al would not get elected. we seem to forget that all that baggage surrounding bill had been tied with multiple knots, around al's neck.

but, at this point, and in my opinion, al is the only hope that i have left.

that is quite a burden to hold, but he put himself there.

he has the hold on public interest BECAUSE of who and what he is, and what he has been through. without that status, all this other work he has done would not have gotten near the attention it has.

so, to imply that he will continue to get all that attention, once he DOES remove himself completely from the political arena, is disingenious, at best. disastrous polictics will always trump the environment. so if we DON'T get a handle on the politics and turn this country around, the environment isn't going to be that important.

when al first chose to be a public servant and devote his life to the people, his journey was set for him. when one makes that decision to serve the public, sacrifices do have to be made. i hope he is still willing to make those sacrifices for we, the people. he may be the only one that has the intelligence to come up with the decisions, has the goodwill of the american people who feel that the wrongs he has suffered need to be addressed (and in the process set our country back on the path towards an even better future), and has the goodwill of politicians around the world who are eager, even desperate, to work to step back from the abyss the current farce-in-chief has brought us.

al won in 2000, but was wronged in such a way that it may never be set right. and if it is not set right, it means that it can, and will, happen again. but al is the only one that can kill the proverbial two birds with one stone.

in his growth over the last seven years, he has become his own man. he will make his own decisions, and has declared himself independent from the tired party "leaders" that just want more of the same, so they "triangulate" as much as needed, so they can continue to be the party powers.

al will have no part of that.

those leaders should have given the support that would have ensured a wide enough margin of victory, so that 2000 should never have occurred. there should never have been an issue of recounts, there should have been a huge enough margin that the election could NOT have been stolen. again, this didn't happen in a vacuum, but with al trying to keep his head above water with a ton of bill's baggage tied securely around his neck.

the 2004 election, for the "leaders" part, WAS more of the same, still unable to rise to the occasion, unwilling to call a lie a lie, and address the liars head on. to busy "saving their powder" (read afraid).

except the netroots were beginning to find their role in the process.

so the polictical animal is changing.

but we are in such a precarious position right now, with our constitution in shatters, our bill of rights under constant attack, with our fabricating complete scenarios for invading other countries, and the ensuing wars, with a pre-emptive policy that allows us to do anything we want without repercussions, allowing the rule and law of this, the alleged finest nation on the planet, to be written by corporations for the benefit of their, and their shareholders', profits, for the triumph of superstition over science that creates a dumbdowned populace that is easlily manipulated by fear and divisiveness, for the planned exploitation of the poor, created by the legislation of the rich,.... sadly i could go on and on and on...

no. to me al is the only one that can face this challenge. if he turns and walks away, i will have realized that there is no reason to care.

i'm rapidly approaching 56. the shit is going to hit the fan, but luckily, maybe even hopefully, i won't be here to care.

one thing i CAN'T and WON'T do is continue to compromise/triangulate/whatever you want to call it.

i have drawn the line in the sand. i will not cross it.

and let me add..

every almost every thread you post is an effort to stop al from running. i find your reasons suspect, and your screen name a joke. we are not fools, here.

[Kurovski]

46. I never thought of it that way.

If, say HRC gets in the White House and it's more of the same-old, same-old, and corporate fascism continues on it's global path, why the hell even bother?

Actually yes, in that case, I think he'll be washed up too. We'll never be able to get anything important done in this country, environmentally speaking, and he'll just be spinning his wheels and indulging himself in much the same manner that Restore Gore does here at DU.

It will be tragic for the movement if the wrong person becomes president, and Gore's work will have been wasted.

[Name removed]

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[StarryNite]

45. Absolutely not!

Al Gore will always be out there working to better not only our country but our earth. How could anybody consider that being washed up?

[RestoreGore]

63. Well, some do

And they call themselves supporters of the man. As some have stated, should he see what he is looking for to feel he has no other choice but to look beyond the disdain he feels for this process to once again serve, I will respect that 100%. However, to say if he doesn't run in 2008 that he will be a has been speaks volumes to me about the lack of support for the man and his wishes, and frankly I find that to be arrogant.

[Kurovski]

49. Kick.(nt)

[SunDrop23]

50. Nope, not at all. I'll thank him for his past service and encourage him to keep going.

[EstimatedProphet]

51. Hardly

He may have a more important role in US society as the Gore-acle, anyway.

[wildhorses]

52. i ain't runnin' and i don't consider myself washed up so why

should i consider gore washed up.

and yes, i answered this thread cos i AM a post whore, dig it:patriot:

[Kurovski]

53. Kick. (nt)

[Mutineer]

56. No, I'll consider him smart.

Who wants to get in a field with a cast of thousands?

[Prophet 451]

58. Not at all

I'll be pleased if he does run but equally, after the character assassination of 2000, I could understand why he wouldn't want to do it again.

[Kurovski]

59. Kick. (nt)

[last_texas_dem]

65. No

If deciding not to take another run for the Presidency would make Gore be considered "washed up", wouldn't he already be seen as washed up for not going for it in '04? The conventional wisdom does seem to be that he would have a better shot at the office this time around, but I really don't know why the conventional wisdom was that he had no shot in '04. I'm a big fan of Al Gore and would like to see him run, but his deciding not to would in no way lower his status in my eyes.

[RestoreGore]

66. I was hoping with all of my heart that 2004 had been it

I was still naive to what this system is all about however, and that unless you are filthy rich, connected, and willing to sell a part of yourself to have it, you don't get it. I would much rather see him with his conscience and soul intact doing what he truly wishes to do and being successful at it, than to have to deal with that again if he truly in his heart did not want it.

[Swamp Rat]

67. HELL NO!!! .......... GEAUX GORE!!!!!!!!!

Al Gore is my president!

:kick:

AL GORE 2008!

[SCDem]

69. No Al Gore I think is doing more than any "losing" Pres Candidat

than I know. He is more relevant today than when he was VP or when he ran for President.

[philosophie_en_rose]

71. No.

Al can do what he wants. I will, however, be livid if he tries to pull a Perot and gets in and out and in. He needs to decide before the primaries and stick with his decision.

[LWolf]

74. Washed up?

:wtf:

Does that mean that any of us who don't have a presidential run in our future are "washed up" as far as accomplishing anything with our lives?

[mentalsolstice]

77. Nope, just a chapter turned!

He was grew up wanting the big brass ring, because he had a dream about the potential of his country, and worked to make sure he was qualified for it. Yet, through thievery, it wasn't his. What he has done post-2000, has marked him as a man and a hero, that the rest of us can look up to.

I would love to see him in the White House...but only on his terms.

[BlooInBloo]

82. Only a fool would consider an Oscar winning Nobel Prize candidate "washed up"....

... no matter what he decides wrt the Presidential race.

[janx]

84. Yes. I will consider him washed up, kaput, finished.

All I care about is his running for president, and if he doesn't do that, he's worthless.

Did I get that right? :)

[upi402]

87. Not at all. He'll always be a great leader for life on earth!

And we can't stand another 4 more years of corporatism in the Executive anyway.