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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 09:20 PM
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As Usual, Education Reformers Ignore The Community.
http://perdidostreetschool.blogspot.com/2010/09/as-usual-education-reformers-ignore.html





The shit eating grins on Governor Chris Christie, Mayor Cory Booker, Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg and Oprah Winfrey yesterday at Winfrey's show to celebrate Booker's receiving both control of the Newark school system from the state and $100 million education grant from Zuckerberg say it all:

Look at us! Look how wonderful we are! Look what wonderful things we are doing for the kids!

But the Newark Star Ledger points out that many people in Newark are NOT happy about this deal:

"When Newark Mayor Cory Booker walks off the set of the Oprah Winfrey show Friday with a $100 million gift to bolster Newark schools, there will be no raptured audience waiting for him back home.

As news spread through Newark today that Gov. Chris Christie will give Booker oversight of the city’s schools, and that Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg will help set up a $100 million educational foundation to support school reforms, political and community leaders here reacted with a combination of cautious optimism and outrage.

Many in Newark say the arrangement could be the spark that ignites true reform in the chronically failing district. Others cast the announcement as a classic backroom deal that skirts the will of the voters."




Zuckerberg is 26 years old. Here is his grand vision for a city that he is not even from, for parents. You know, older people with children?


http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/24/techcrunch-interview-with-mark-zuckerberg-on-100-million-education-donation/



Mark Zuckerberg: Yeah – national, state, everything. So it ends up being quite difficult to make a difference because any amount of money that anyone has is just a drop in the bucket compared to that. So when you start learning about education, there are all these organizations that are national like KIPP – the chapter schools that are the top performing. There are 99 of them across the country. They’re really high performing schools.

There’s stuff like Teach For America, that places a few hundred teachers in a lot of different cities. And they’re really creating the pipeline for all of the – kind of HR and people who go into… A lot of people who do Teach for America don’t end up staying in teaching. But about two-thirds of them end up in education. So for example, the people who started a lot of the top charter schools are TFA alums. That’s an amazing institution.

<snip>

Mark Zuckerberg: But it’s also a – well, actually a lot of the work will be done in the first year, kind of just like getting the charter schools to come … Working with Teach For America to get more placements for their – for their teachers.

<snip>

Jason Kincaid: What about attracting better teachers to the schools? I’d imagine part of this isn’t just the way teachers are gauged but you know, the actual teaching talent. Is that what TFA should and can help with?

Mark Zuckerberg: Yeah. Also, TFA is – one of the things that’s pretty interesting is around this. So my girlfriend wanted to be a teacher after she graduated from Harvard. And one of the things that I saw that was interesting was socially the response that she got. Where, everyone was kind of, “this is such a nice thing that you’re doing it”. But it was like she’s doing charity. It’s clear that she could have gotten paid more doing some other job. She’s really smart and she was clearly foregoing the real economic value for her to do something that was socially valuable. So the question is, how can you make it so that a lot of the people who would go do other things, teaching is a respected and valued enough job that people actually go into it. Given that it has a lot more impact than what these people are being compensated at today. And I think of that – that is a big problem. One of the things that’s been pretty interesting about TFA is they’ve actually gotten a lot of really good college students to go into teaching but it’s only for a short period of time. 15% of the graduating Harvard class applies to TFA and there are aren’t enough placements today to accept all those people but they would accept a lot more of them if they could. It’s just that it’s really hard —TFA needs to go fund those people and get them placed at specific schools. There is often some politics around that. So that’s one of the big things that they are working on. But the TFA is trying to double over the next five years, right. So but that number surprised me, when I learned that 15%, I mean… Apparently TFA is I think by far the largest employer of students graduating from Ivy League schools.

Michael Arrington: So is it a government organization?

Mark Zuckerberg: No, no. It’s a private charity. Yeah. And now, the woman who founded it is starting – this woman, Wendy Kopp, is starting an international version Teach For All. So it’s cool, but in doing research for this, a lot of the educational issues in the U.S. are pretty different from international. So I’m not sure how much we’re going to be able to learn from this experience to do it internationally but maybe for the next one we’ll think about something like that. A lot of this really just comes down to though — I spend all my time running this company, you know. So for a lot of people who are later in their careers when they start this stuff, they can spend more time on it like running a foundation and I really couldn’t. So for me this is more like a venture capital approach where it’s like you pick the entrepreneur, the leader that you believe in and then you really like try to give them a lot of leverage.

Michael Arrington: Cory Booker in that case.

Mark Zuckerberg: Yes.










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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 09:29 PM
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1. Billionaires have no use for local control of anything.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 09:38 PM
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2. What would the peasants know?
They're too dumb to amass huge wealth. They need their betters to dictate their futures.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 09:40 PM
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3. Community -- is that like, COMMIES?
K&R
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Panaconda Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 09:41 PM
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4. Heh
K&R
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 09:56 PM
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6. Why are we so mean to the nice billionaires?
:cry:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 09:54 PM
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5. Does the PTA exist any more?
What are people saying about this at the neighborhood level?
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:04 PM
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8. Here is a reaction from a community organizer
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/09/gov_christie_to_give_mayor_boo.html

Booker, who has been fighting since July to regain his footing in Newark politics, will have to sell the plan to residents and marshal support for the city’s next superintendent. If recent battles over city water, layoffs, and police practices are any indication, it will be a tough slog.

"The outrage seems to be not about the $100 million deal, but about this backroom deal," said Wilhemina Holder, a longtime education activist, grandmother, and mother of current and former Newark schoolchildren. She said her phone began ringing Wednesday evening when news of the deal first broke on NJ.com and it hasn’t stopped since. "People are just outraged that the governor has ignored the Newark voters. Over and over again every phone call I got was about this."


Another quote from this story:


Those familiar with the deal have said that Zuckerberg insisted that Booker run the schools in exchange for the gift, which comes in the form of a foundation funded by Facebook stock. Assembly Speaker Sheila Oliver (D-Essex) said she was concerned about other conditions that may apply to the grant.

"I’m happy about the philanthropy of course," Oliver said but added, "It’s dangerous water to tread on when a donor or philanthropist ties the hands of a community."

South Ward Councilman Ras Baraka, principal of Newark’s Central High School, said the deal threatened to overrule the will of residents. "What I’m more concerned about than anything is the democratic process"

"This is almost a coup. It circumvented the whole process," he said.


Hopefully there will be some blog posts in a day or two. This is just a first look from the neighborhood reactions.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:38 PM
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13. I'm just astounded at this
A famous billionaire KID directs $100 million "to schools" on condition that it be doled out according to the wishes of an exremist idealogue who wants to kill the traditional concept of a public school.

And teachers, citizens and other elected officials have no say.

And on top of it all, the great OPRAH is praising this deal as some "second coming", a "great era" for education.

What a nightmare for those who REALLY understand what's going on.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:53 PM
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14. Well stated Canuckistanian.
It *is* a nightmare. Fortunately most teachers have a rather morbid sense of irony. We'll keep educating with facts until they shuffle us offstage.

Cory Booker is a charter member (hah!) of Democrats for Education Reform, and these plans have been in place since the victory of his ed deform slate in 2007. http://www.nysun.com/new-york/school-reform-group-hails-jersey-victories/56031/

The recruiting of airhead extraordinaire Zuckerberg was just their latest coup.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 09:59 PM
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7. The nail in the coffin for PUBLIC schools
and this is starting to sound like "bigger government" to me with all the takeover talk. I thought Repukes were against that kind of thing. :shrug:
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:17 PM
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9. Well, it's a bit complicated.
These are mostly Democrats, following a right wing path to privatization of the public schools. I think Christie is the only R in the mix here, though his happiness levels over this should give all D's pause for reflection.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 07:09 AM
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29. Not when they're privatizing a public service.
The bigger the PRIVATE control, the better.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:18 PM
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10. I am working on a fitting caption for that picture.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:30 PM
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11. I hope you will share.
I enjoy captioning pictures. :D
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-10 10:36 PM
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12. I will do so.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 06:26 AM
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26. those are the phoniest smiles i've seen in some time.
Edited on Mon Sep-27-10 06:26 AM by Hannah Bell



sharks, all of them.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 06:36 AM
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27. "TFA is I think by far the largest employer of students graduating from Ivy League schools."
Think about that, & the fact that districts ultimately pay a premium out of local tax monies for these untrained twits - too many trust funds kids & not enough jobs for them.

Wonder if school deform is also a jobs program for the trustafarian set -- pushing the plebes out of those jobs & setting up a tiered system where their brats would get high pay to be lead teachers & such over lower-paid, insecure contract teachers from the rabble.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 12:37 AM
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15. They're grinning because they stand to make a fortune as middlemen
While school for poor children becomes a brutal game of "Survivor" and teachers are vilified and bullied into accepting Wal Mart wages. Smile you fuckers. Your evil shows that way.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 08:42 AM
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16. Neither the left or right cares about the kids in communities in general
The left cares about unions the right cares about bypassing unions - there are those on the ground some in public schools and some in independent schools who are actually working to help the kids and give them opportunity
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 08:55 AM
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18. most teachers dedicate themselves to kids...
but it is the first job of the unions to protect the teachers jobs, that job being the kids' education...get the difference?
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Pholus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 09:52 PM
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23. Yes. I often tell my students "Well Billy I'd like to help but it's union meeting night."
laughable. Simply laughable, stray cat.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 08:53 AM
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17. Thanks, K&R...
I would say more, but I'm too nauseous (only half kidding...)
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 10:03 AM
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20. Stats on the Oprah Infomercials
Edited on Sun Sep-26-10 10:03 AM by Starry Messenger
http://www.accountabletalk.com/2010/09/stats-on-oprah-informercials.html


If you watched the two Oprah infomercials for Waiting for Superman this week, you might have noticed the following stats. If not, I'll lay them out for you.

* Total number of teachers on the panel: 0
* Total number of public school parents on the panel: 0
* Total number of billionaires on the panel: 3
* Total number of billions of the panelists: 60
* Total years of teaching experience of all the "experts": 2
* Total minutes devoted to defending unions: 1
* Total minutes devoted to humping charter schools: 119

I think that says it all.

From the comments:


Anonymous said...

Total number of public school teachers gagging at the bullshit that was spewed in her show:
millions

September 24, 2010 8:05 PM



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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 09:17 PM
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22. teachers gagging at the bullshit that was spewed in her show: millions
Priceless!
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 08:55 AM
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19. k&r n/t
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 10:07 AM
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21. K & R nt
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 10:07 PM
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24. Do DEMOCRATS still believe in PUBLIC education? I don't know.
Edited on Sun Sep-26-10 10:13 PM by Tatiana
If charter schools are so great, why aren't the wealthy people saving themselves tuition by sending their children there?

Would President Obama send his girls to a KIPP charter school? I seriously doubt it. I certainly wouldn't send my kids to one.

Education used to be in the hands of professionals with expertise. If you needed surgery, would you want someone operating on you who had gone through medical school and residency or would you allow a reporter from Discovery Health to perform the procedure?

We've got the same principle going on here. I'm not a big fan of mayoral control over schools. I've seen how Mayor Daley has used the power here in Chicago. It has not been to improve education, but rather to stop white flight and re-gentrify various neighborhoods (while conveniently kicking minority and public housing residents to the suburbs). Townhomes in "revitalized" areas are conveniently priced at $400,000 and up (some mixed-income community, eh?) so lo and behold only certain types of folk can afford to move into those areas. Thanks to mayoral control over the school system, there will be lovely new, state-of-the-art public schools waiting for those folk who move back to the city from the burbs (e.g. Walter Payton High in Chicago).

I suspect Newark is about to get further gentrified...
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 10:11 PM
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25. I suspect that too, Tatiana.
This is another story I've been following, Newark "Teacher Villages": http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/05/newark_developers_teachers_vil.html

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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 07:06 AM
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28. President Obama's children go to Sidwell Friends -
one of the best private schools in Washington DC.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 07:13 AM
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31. Those in power don't.
Watching Obama appoint a privatizer, union-buster, and corporate stooge like Duncan, and then rapidly advance that very right-wing agenda, with help from the media, and the privatizers, ought to answer that question once and for all.
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Panaconda Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 07:09 AM
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30. Gotta say
that picture looks like some Saturday morning cartoon show. And to think these cartoon characters have power. Harrowing.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 09:05 AM
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32. kick

What a disgusting celebration of arrogance and hubris.
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