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metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 10:38 AM
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Lieberman predicts Congress will extend Bush tax cuts for 'at least a year or two'
So the story is that we allowed Lieberman to compromise HCR because we needed his support on other important things. Has that strategy worked out in *ANY* respect? Or is the story just bullshit?


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(CNN) - "In a September session, it's hard to separate anything you do from politics."

Independent Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman's explanation for the Senate's decision to wait to vote on extending the Bush tax cuts until after the American people vote in November is indicative of the political gridlock in Washington and the political battles being waged around the country.

"We didn't get much of anything done," Lieberman conceded Sunday to CNN Chief Political Correspondent Candy Crowley on State of the Union.

More interesting quotes where article continues.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/26/lieberman-predicts-congress-will-extend-bush-tax-cuts-for-at-least-a-year-or-two/
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 10:43 AM
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1. Oh Joe, just STFU and go away. Don't go away quietly, just GO.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 10:45 AM
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2. Lieberman was Obama's BFF in the senate if I remember correctly.
I'm pretty sure this is a trial balloon.
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metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 10:46 AM
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4. A trial baloon to see how Democrats will respond? n/t
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 10:52 AM
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6. Well, yeah. I think we already know where the R's stand on it.
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metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 11:26 AM
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11. In that case, it sounds more like a "call-out" than a trial balloon?
Edited on Sun Sep-26-10 11:28 AM by metapunditedgy
On edit: that is, Lieberman is forcing the Democrats' hand on an issue they'd rather let slide for a couple of months.

You know, didn't that same strategy work so well for him during HCR? He'd just keep pushing and pushing from the right, and in the end, he'd get his way.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 11:55 AM
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12. If the president wanted to extend them, but didn't want to come out publicly in support,
Edited on Sun Sep-26-10 11:56 AM by Edweird
the easiest way is for him to have 'not had any choice'. Get his buddy Lieberman to start making noise and he's suddenly 'powerless' and has to do whatever he wants. See HCR and the catfood commission for other examples.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 11:00 AM
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8. Exactly - we know there's going to be some sort of extension
because if there weren't they wouldn't be doing all this talking about it in the press. The rich will continue to get their tax breaks because Obama is not going to piss off his major campaign contributors (which are largely wall street bankers and law firms)
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 10:57 AM
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7. Where do you get this? Lieberman was Bush and then McCain's BBF in the Senate.
He was Bush's most reliable vote for all things Iraq War. He supported McCain in the Presidential and even spoke at the Repubican Convention -- he couldn't have been too close to Obama. I remember the video when Obama confronted Lieberman on the Senate floor about the things he was saying.

No, I don't think any Democrats were too close to Joe Lieberman after Bush planted that big kiss on his face after the SOTU.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 11:14 AM
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10. Lieberman was also the Democratic vice presidential candidate in 2000..
And yet it was all Nader's fault that Gore did not become POTUS.


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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 12:39 PM
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18. FYI
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 10:45 AM
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3. What would we do without Lieberman on our side?
Pretty much the same things we can do having him on our side.

Lieberman is a zero on the left; you see him but he adds no value.
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metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 10:48 AM
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5. Speaking practically, he's like a game piece that lets you exchange votes for corporate $$. n/t
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Rochester Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 11:10 AM
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9. It would be a bad idea
because then the issue would come up again with the 2012 elections looming.
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RelativelyJones Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 11:59 AM
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13. I'm convinced all Obama's Senate problem go back to not punishing
Lieberman after the 2008 election. He should have been crushed after supporting McCain. Instead he got away with it. And then we had Baucus, and then Nelson, and then the ridiculous dance with Snowe and Collins. And in the end we have a disgusted electorate and a pissed off base. Had Joe been cut off at the knees, like he deserved, Obama could have moved much more effectively.
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metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 12:28 PM
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17. That conflicts with the narrative I was told, that we needed to keep Joe happy
so that he would support us on HCR and Finance Reform. (And then the narrative sort of falls apart when you start asking specific questions....)

Given that "appeasing Joe" seems to leave about 70% of the electorate unhappy (per the polls), you have to wonder what exactly Joe brings to the table.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 12:05 PM
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14. I was changing channels and heard him but why is he even
being allowed to speak???
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 12:06 PM
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15. madinmaryland predicts Joe Lieberman is full of crap.
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metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 12:26 PM
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16. He has been full of crap for years, but it seems to be very powerful crap.
Here's to hoping he's wrong.
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