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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 01:47 PM
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One Month Update - Giving Up Smoking With The Help Of E-Cigarettes
A month ago and a day ago I posted on DU about having a 40+year cigarette addiction, 3 packs a day, and no matter what I tried, even giving them up once for 3 years, I was still addicted. I then tried e-cigarettes. When I posted the thread I was asked by several smoking DUers for an update, to see if it would work.

I have now been successfully tobacco free for a full month! It has been for the most part very easy, but costly in mistakes that I made finding the right e-cig combination for me, but I don't miss smoking real cigarettes at all. Due to my heavy smoking I needed a unit that provided the vapor strength and battery life I needed. I am still experimenting with cartridges and cartomizers that can hold the maximum amount of e-juice.

I started with a system that was inappropriate for my smoking habits but knew that if done right, this could work. Once I bought and received better equipment, I completely stopped smoking cigarettes on the third day. The following day I removed my ashtrays. About a week or so into it, I was still a little edgy and annoyed at constantly having to recharge batteries and I purchased and committed to the e-cig that I have now. It gets a battery life of about 5 1/2 hours. It doesn't look like a cigarette, but more like an elegant stogie.

Granted there are few times when my brain tells me, like right after a meal, to light up, but then of course I remember I no longer do that and I vape. That's what it's called, vaping, as you are creating vapor with the e-cigarettes and that simulates smoke. The liquid used is a combination of nicotine, food grade vegetable glycerin and food grade propylene glycol and flavoring. The nicotine is delivered by the vapor as are the flavorings. At first I thought I should be vaping a tobacco flavored e-juice and although tolerated in the beginning, hate it now. No e-juice could simulate burning tobacco successfully and at this stage, who wants it? I compare the thought of it to licking a dirty ashtray. Finding the right e-juices too have been a series of trials and errors. I still buy but have been also creating my own.

So that's my update! I really do encourage anyone who smokes and has tried many ways to give them up unsuccessfully, and wants to stop, to at least try e-cigarettes. I know that it isn't like going cold turkey and giving up nicotine immediately or completely (you can wean down on ecigs by reducing the nicotine percent in the e-juice), but some of us just don't have the willpower.

Of course I have switched my method of getting my addiction but I am no longer spreading smoke with 1000s of harmful chemicals into my body and into the world. I will not soapbox the evils of smoking and will never tell another person that they shouldn't. It's not for me to judge them. What they do is their own thing, as what I am now doing is mine.

My lung capacity is better and so is my skin. My sons are proud of me and have told me so. The topper was when one of my older son's friends told me how proud my son was about this. Big smiley sigh here.

Just one thing I would like to add. There has been a big push by the FDA and state governments to ban the use of e-cigarettes. If everyone who smoked cigarettes switched, a lot of big business (drug companies, tobacco companies) and government revenues from cigarette taxes would be devestated. That's how successful these things are. One only has to log onto an e-cigarette forum, like I have to see how many success stories there are out there. The e-cigarette forum I belong to is
e-cigarette-forum.com

Peace to you all,
Ommmmmmmmmmm :)

Posted below is my original thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9013383

I have been smoking since I was about 15 years old and I am coming up quickly on my 59th birthday. I have been known to go through 3 packs a day. I didn't smoke them all, as many burn out while I'm working, but they have been my forever addiction and prop. Add to that I live in NY and cigarettes have been escalating in price. Almost 2 years ago a friend of mine introduced to me to cigarette injection machines and tubes. I have for the most part been making my own till now. I would occasionally treat myself to a "real" pack but at $9.50, they have become unaffordable.

I have quit 3 times in the past. The first time I quit for three years, when I was 24. A bad break-up with a boyfriend had left me with two alternatives, go out the window or start smoking again. I of course chose the latter.

Fast forward about 20 years ago I decided to try again and it last about 5 months and then another year later it lasted for about 2 months. Both time I tried the nicotine patch and an anti-anxiety medication, when I had health insurance and could visit the doctor.

I have since used nicotine patches when I was under situations when I couldn't smoke (ie jury duty, flying to and from CA and also the UK), and it helped take the edge off as long as I wore 2 full strength patches but I just couldn't commit to stopping again. I even thought the nicotine lozenges would work but all they gave me was severe heartburn.

About a year ago, I started to hear about e-cigarettes and I was intrigued. I started to look at them and was quite confused as there seemed to be very little conformity between makes and models. There are a few brands that have excellent marketing but most were a bit too expensive for me to lay out immediately. I also had to take into consideration the cost of maintenance. How much would it cost per month.

I also read about controversies about how healthy/unhealthy they were. I figured that due to the fact that I've been putting tar and so many more chemicals into my body, anything less would be a plus.

A couple of weeks ago I found an offer on eBay (which I use a lot for purchases) and bought via "coupon" a system. eBay does not allow direct sales of tobacco products, although these do not have tobacco, but flavoring and nicotine. It arrived and had problems because the cartridges it came with ran out of vapor within an hour or so, batteries had to be recharged almost every 2 hours but it seemed that if I didn't have these problems, I could use this kind of device to give up smoking.

I then did what I should have done from the beginning. I started to visit the e-cigarette-forum.com. It became an invaluable resource. From what I read, there were some brands and models more superior to others. Most posts put down the ones that were highly marketed and recommended more versatile ones that you could just fill with your own e-liquid, with superior vapor production (simulates smoke) and charging options. The forum is also a place for vendors to peddle their wares from hardware to the e-liquid (juice). Many offer discounts and coupon codes. I estimate that the total cost will be between $30.00-$40.00 a month. I have been making my own cigarettes for about $90.00 a month.

I decided on what appears to be one of the highest rated models, the Joye 510 in a kit and ordered it directly from China for $34.95 with free shipping(it isn't here yet), and also a passthrough system for the Joye 510, which I bought from a US vendor (with a 40% off ecoupon!). The passthrough is the battery part and connects to USB. I am practically always in front of the computer and it made sense to buy it. I also ordered blank cartomizers which one fills up with the e-liquid. I received the passthrough 2 days ago, and have, as of now, had 2 real cigarettes today. I put both of them out half-way through and re-lit them. That's it. I am not irritable/bitchy and in fact calm. It's a pleasure not having a cloud of smoke around me.

Using the e-cigarette does simulate smoking and is giving me the nicotine that a patch, gum or lozenge would do, and I hope that by next week I won't have to make a cigarette again.

I do know that it won't be a "walk in the park" physically as just like quitting cold turkey, I expect a constant sore throat and lots of coughing to follow. Probably for months.

I never ever do this here at DU, but please, wish me luck!

Peace,
Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :)
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 01:50 PM
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1. Bookmarked. Thanks.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 01:54 PM
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2. You're welcome! :)
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 01:55 PM
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3. I bought one from 7 11
I like it. I have been using it for a week and I am going to try the nicotine free cartridges next week.I even sleep better
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 01:59 PM
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6. I sleep better too! It seems to relax me much more than cigarettes. I was discussing
that last night with my ex. I equated it to some kids calm down with caffeine and nicotine is supposed to be a stimulant too, but on my body like tea with caffeine (it helps me fall asleep), it seems to work just the opposite of a stimulant.

Best of luck with them Autumn! :)
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:07 PM
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13. We can do it.
Best of luck to you too.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:10 PM
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Thanks Autumn!
:hi:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 01:57 PM
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4. 6 weeks (approximtely) for me using e-cigs.
I started with Green Smoke but have now discovered how easy it is to refill cartridges with a liquid. Better flavor less sore throat.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:01 PM
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7. Congratulations Tierra! The pre-filled cartridges are not great. I have been accumulating all sorts
of good ejuices that are a lot less harsh and far tastier. :)
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:04 PM
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9. Try Johnson Creek Smoke Juice.
What got me try them is that they sponsor Kiva - a great charity for poor people. And, their stuff is downright delicious.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:09 PM
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15. I haven't tried them yet. Right now I have a thing for Freedom Smoke USA's Almond Joy
but I have heard that Johnson Creek has a wonderful vanilla, which I'm in search of.

Great news about the good work they do. Thanks for letting me know.

Johnson Creek just received a warning letter to cease and desist from using advertising of ecigs as a smoking cessation device. The wolves are at the door.
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:12 PM
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18. Have you tried dripping about 2 drops directly onto the atomizer? I find it increases flavor greatly
nt
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:17 PM
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22. I've tried dripping and can't get the hang of it, and it's too much tending too.
That's why I'm looking for the holy grail of carts/cartos!

I read your other post and hope that if you want to, try the ecigs again. They were successful for you up to a point and I know stress can be a killer, but you can do both if you wanted to. This way you would at least cut down on the amount of cigarettes you use.
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:21 PM
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26. Try these easy modifications sometime:
Edited on Sun Sep-26-10 02:22 PM by AlabamaLibrul
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/30017-video-lipton-pyramid-tea-bag-mod.html
(the lipton pyramid tea bags supposedly wick the liquid much better, I have a friend that swears by this)

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/uk-forum/47826-510-cart-straw-mod.html
(same thing, but I'd be a bit worried about the straws melting and inhaling plastic)

I had been completely cigarette free for twenty weeks. I'm hoping that after this carton is up, I can switch back...

We'll see. :scared:

PS if you end up trying dripping again, I highly suggest you blow out the atomizer thoroughly first. I can get about five minutes of vaping off 3-4 drops (note: if you don't have a 510-type or a manual battery with the button, this can short your battery) and then I just top up next time I use it. I'd blow it out at the end of a night, and I've had that same atomizer this whole time.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:31 PM
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30. I have been considering the ptb method and keep forgetting to buy the tea when I go to the store!
Edited on Sun Sep-26-10 02:32 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
I have bought and tried the blue foam mod and I don't like the taste. So far the best two have been an EGO XL Cartomizer (but I keep having to refilling it before it gets dry) and with regular blank carts, taking out 1/2 the polyfill. The taste is better that way.

I had to upgrade from the 510 to the Riva which is basically an Ego clone.

I will try what you recommend with dripping. I am OCD with my atomizers (and I just lost one) and blow them out All The Time!!!!

I wish you the best with what ever you do and hope that what ever is stressing you out stops.

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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 01:59 PM
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5. How wonderful for you that this is working. I have been
trying the e-cigs, but still cannot get totally off the "real" cigs. I have cut down significantly on cigs though. The one thing that amazed me is that I, personally, do not need a whole cigarette to satisfy my nicotine addiction. With the e-cig, I am fine with about 5 puffs or so. And I notice when smoking a cigarette, that after the first 5 puffs, it is just smoking to finish it, since it is there, it is lit, and it will suck if I try to put it out and get the rest later.

Continued success to you. And I hope that I can get to where you are, but this is a start.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:05 PM
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10. Thank you Curmudgeoness and cutting down is excellent! You might need to change
the amount of nicotine you're using and the device. From what I've experienced and read, it's trial and error.

One thing I promised myself, that if I needed a real cig I wouldn't deny myself. That need just hasn't arisen as of yet. I hope that it never does.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:01 PM
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8. 1
k/r
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Loki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:05 PM
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11. Congratulations Om
Former smoker here, 25 years and over a pack a day. I quit almost 9 years ago and it was the hardest thing I ever did but it will be the best thing you ever did for yourself and your family. :thumbsup: :toast: :bounce: :hi: :hug: :fistbump: :yourock: :applause: :woohoo:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:11 PM
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17. Thanks Loki and congratulations to you for quitting! My kids are so happy about this and
I never thought I'd be ever able to do it again. :)

:hug:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:06 PM
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12. Good luck
and this is the one time I hope the FDA stays out of it and just leaves the whole thing to ATF. Unfortunately, they probably won't.

The reason for the cough is an effect of nicotine with the jawbreaking name "mucociliary dyskinesia." That means the little hairlike cells lining your respiratory tract responsible for transporting inhaled crap out of your lungs has been disrupted by nicotine and is not working, leaving all the grit, bacterial debris, and other junk stuck down there. Once you stop nicotine, the system repairs itself and starts working, transporting years of crud up to where you can cough and get rid of it. The cough then causes the sore throat. It's a sign you're healing, although that probably doesn't make it any less annoying.

Good luck to you on staying away from smoking it, though. E cigs are a definite improvement for people with a serious and longstanding nicotine addiction instead of a nicotine dependency.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:14 PM
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19. Thanks Warpy! I am
actually still coughing up a little crud and my throat is still a bit sore. Just like when I gave up smoking in the past. I knew it would happen but I can breathe so much better. Going up and down the stairs in my home became quite a chore.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:09 PM
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14. +1
Good luck from a former smoker.

Free from tobacco for 30 years.
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:10 PM
Original message
Congratulations, I am now back smoking after about five months with the e-cig.
It's a lifelong thing to deal with and it doesn't help the stress level went up about 10 times lately.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:52 PM
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35. They say to just start over again. About 10 years ago I quit
with the patch (it was less agonizing than I'd thought it would be) and didn't smoke for two years. Then.... But I always told myself, it's easy to quit, I've done it before, but since then I haven't been successful for more than a couple of months. And I try repeatedly. So I'm just going to keep trying (what other option do we have?) and I hope you do too. The irony is that I LOVED being smoke free because I'd never realized how much smoking controlled my life. Timing how many cigs you could have en route somewhere,etc. For the first time in 30 years I felt free. Yet here I am again, but I won't stop trying! :hi:
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:10 PM
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16. Thanks for sharing and good luck! It seems to be working for you
I smoked for 30 years (3 packs for the last 20). I was part of the double blind study for Chantix and it worked for me. I've been a non-smoker for 15 years.

By the way, you will always be an addict. Those three years were good. Your mistake was to start again. It can happen after doing this too. So you just need to realize that and it'll stop you from taking that one cigarette ever again.

Not a day goes by that I'm not grateful that I quit. Not one. And I also don't preach to anyone. I know how hard it is both to try to quit and to quit. For most people it takes many attempts. It did for me which is one reason I don't smoke 'occasionally'.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:21 PM
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25. I'm so happy Chantix worked for you! I don't have health insurance and couldn't
afford both the doctor and the medication. My ex is totally covered and is in fact taking it. It's not totally working for him and he smokes about a half a pack a day while taking it. He is intrigued with ecigs and he knows if he wants to try them, I have them available to him to use.

And I am grateful I quit and I really don't want to ever smoke again, but honestly, I refuse to be so hard on myself, and if for some weird reason slip, I know that the ecigs will be able to get me back.

Congratulations!!!!
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 09:14 AM
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47. I agree,
If you are going to quit, then quit completely. Having that occasional smoke will put you right back on the addicted path. I've been smoke free for over a year now, and don't regret a second of it.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:15 PM
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20. Was going to ask about cost, then saw your update.
Thanks.

I only spend about $15/month on RYO stuff, do you think I would be able to match that with e-cigs?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:27 PM
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28. Cost compared to RYO? I'm guessing if you RYO (which I did) you're
only smoking 1 pack a day? You would only need and can get 30ml of ejuice from anywhere between $10.00-$20 shipped. It depends on the vendor. So at most, after getting the gear and if you need occasional restock of equipment, you'll break even.

I stuffed 3 packs a day and rounded up to $1.50 a pack depending if my mail order tobacco came in time or I had to pay much more at the local place to get tobacco. So I guestimate I was paying about $135.00 a month.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 03:06 PM
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39. I smoke around 20 a day, but the cig spends most of it's time in the ashtray.
I do that on purpose. I'm probably getting about 10 cigs worth of nicotine a day.

Breaking even sounds good enough, although I buy pipe-cut to avoid taxes. It's still super cheap.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:16 PM
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21. good for you. I have been contemplating
giving it a try, but am flummoxed by the myriad brands and accouterments involved. If you could give details on the machine and supplies you currently use, it would be most helpful/ thanks..
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:40 PM
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31. I'm using a Riva, which is also very much like another one called the Joye eGo.
The Riva has a higher battery rating of 750mah to the normal eGo's 650mah. All that means is a little more life. The eGo also has just come out with longer batteries at 900mah and 1300mah!

For my Riva I am using the atomizer and blank cartridges that came with the kit. I feel the cartidges up myself with ejuice. I'm also using for longer spells eGo XL cartomizer which are a combination of an atomizer and cartridge in one.

As to what you need, it all depends on how much you smoke. If you smoked a half a pack to a pack a day I would tell you to go with the Joye510. I'm using a larger model because I smoked so much and not only does the battery have a longer life, it has a little more kick to it.

I highly recommend that you go to an ecig forum. The one I visit is Great. There are lots of people there to help new users and intended users out. There are also vendors there with great deals and also coupon codes.

I wish you the very best of luck!
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 12:37 PM
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48. thanks so much!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:17 PM
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23. Cig free 5 years, nicotine free 3 years
I used lozenges much like you're using the e-cig. I decided early on that it was okay to just trade out the nicotine and if I never got off the lozenges it would still be a better solution. I did finally, which is another story.

What really worked for me is the reminder that I could get my niotine through the lozenge or by putting my head over a chimney and breathing in smoke. Well that second option is crazy. So I stuck to the lozenge.

You stick to the e-cig.

:applause:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:19 PM
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24. I had to quit the lozenges due to cost.
They are criminally priced IMO.

They did work though.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:24 PM
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27. Same as cigs around here
I bought generic sometimes, although I think Commit are better. I also am a crazy sale/coupon person so I did that too. After a couple of months, I only used them once or twice a day. And this will be disgusting, but I "saved" them. I never sucked up a whole lozenge at a time except maybe first thing in the morning.

My insurance now pays for them. Now. If you have insurance, you might want to check and see if you can get some help there.

It has always made me livid that the tobacco law suit money didn't go directly to helping people quit smoking.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:46 PM
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34. They cost less than cigarettes around here now. Living in NY, practically
anything costs less than cigarettes!

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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 03:00 PM
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37. RYO is still dirt cheap, unfortunately.
I think I'm going to try cold turkey soon.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 03:05 PM
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38. When the taxes went up 775% on RYO tobacco, my supplier
Edited on Sun Sep-26-10 03:06 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
started to sell tobacco labeled as pipe tobacco but it was cut to use in machines. So the price never went up for me, although I did sacrifice taste. Bottom line, it still cost me $135/mo. If I were to buy cigs here where I live in NY that cost would be $810.00. I'm being generous using $9/pack as an amount, as it's closer to $10/pack.

The cost of ejuice runs me between $30-$45/month. I then throw in another $20-$30 for replacement parts etc. So the high figure would be about $75/month. Still quite a savings.

Remember...I burned up 3 packs a day.

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:44 PM
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32. Congrats! I tried lozenges and patches. The lozenges didn't agree with my digestive
system. I used to have an ulcer and am way sensitive to acidic things. I do have a stock of patches left! I have used them for looooong plane rides and when I went to serve jury duty!

My ex-sister-in-law has been chewing nicotine gum now for 20 some odd years! laughing!

So happy that you've managed to quit and I know what you mean about a smoking chimney!



:hi:
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:27 PM
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29. Congratz, and hang in there. I'm tobacco free for 18 months now. nt
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:45 PM
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33. Thank you and congratulations!!!!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 02:54 PM
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36. Good for you!
:applause:

:pals:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 03:09 PM
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41. Thank you!
:hi: :hug:
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 03:08 PM
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40. Right On!
Keep vaping!

:hi:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 03:10 PM
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42. Thank you blogslut! :)
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 03:10 PM
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43. thanks for an interesting post....
man I wish there was someway to get people who smoke to stop tossing the fricking things all over the place, and the packs too! It goes without thinking that folks who trash their lungs also think nothing of trashing the environment, but I am sick of seeing them EVERYWHERE.


BEST of Luck on getting off one of the worst addictions on the planet!
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 05:21 PM
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44. Yours is a very timely post for me. I was just told about (& sold on) the Joye 510.
Edited on Sun Sep-26-10 05:24 PM by pacalo
Someone who came out to give us an estimate for some work on our house was here for 4 hours talking to my hubby & me. Just as I was thinking, "Wow, it's time for this guy to leave", he told me he had noticed that I had gone into the backyard a couple of times to smoke while he was there. He then took out a Joye 510 from his pocket & demonstrated it for me. He had been on it & without cigarettes for a month; I was amazed at both how it was a successful substitute & how it worked. He said all the smokers at his office were using one, too (I told him I'd probably love his office workers because smokers are generally the most fun to be around, imo :) ).

After reading your opinion, hanging onto every word, I'm more excited about ordering it.

Until I read your opinion, I was going to order the RY4, which is supposed to simulate tobacco flavor. Now I don't know what to get. I doubt that I'd be satisfied with a sweet flavor such as strawberry, cherry, etc.

Thank you SO MUCH for posting. I'm so impressed about your progress; you've sold me!

:hi:

/edited to remove the annoying "woohoo" animation. ;)

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 06:22 PM
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45. Hello pacalo and I believe that
Edited on Sun Sep-26-10 06:26 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
everything is with perfect timing (even if it doesn't seem to be at the time)!

The Joye510 is wonderful but not for the way I smoked. I breathe in too heavily after years of smoking (well also burning) 3 packs a day and because I smoked so much, I was recharging the Joye510 batteries every couple of hours. But for the normal smoker I think it's an excellent selection. The good thing about too is that if you wish to upgrade as I did to a Riva or Ego, they have the 510 thread and your atomizers will work. The battery chargers are not interchangeable though as the Riva and Ego batteries need a more powerful charger. But at least with the Joye510 you're not throwing everything away. :)

I've tried RY4 by one company and it wasn't good but I do believe they vary. The one I bought had a decidedly vinegary after taste. Yesterday I accidently made an RY4! I used pure vanilla extract and stevia, didn't get it sweet enough at all but it does taste like RY4. The closest tobacco flavor I tried is called Wyatt Earp by Freedom Smoke USA. The problem with that is, it tastes like fresh tobacco and not burning tobacco! I still haven't tried the fruity flavors as they seem odd to me but I love the dessert flavors. Almond Joy, Vanilla, Vanilla Custard, French Toast.

When you plan to make your purchase check out the forum and their suppliers. There is one good supplier of Joye510s in the midwest named Cignot.com I have only heard rave reviews about them. The starter kit is unboxed but is only $35 plus shipping and handling. Mine took way too long to come here from China. Also, if you spend a great deal of time on the computer, a 510 pass through will save you lots of recharging. Another cool toy to have with the 510 is a personal charger. It is a case that you charge up. Once it has its charge, you can recharge batteries in it for 4 or 5 times. A good thing to have if you're out and about. It will also hold extra atomizers and cartridges.

It seems that most everyone that I have heard that has tried ecigs has given up smoking or have dwindled down a great deal. Considering what a big part cigarettes had in my life, to me this is an invention that only rivals my computer and color tv! lol!

It is truly revolutionary.

I wish you the best of luck with your decision! :)
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-10 06:38 PM
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46. Thanks so much for the added information! I do plan to check out the forum.
I can definitely relate to your opinion that this is as revolutionary a product for smokers as the computer & color tv. Non-smokers have no idea how difficult it is to quit.
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 12:41 PM
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49. Tobacco free for about 16 hours now. I'm back on with the program. n/t
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