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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 02:30 PM
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Question for all of you ! as I travel along I-95
Would the USA have looked different today if the South has won the civil war ?

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 02:31 PM
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1. Ever see those satellite photos...
of North and South Korea at night?
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 02:34 PM
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4. Nailed it.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 02:43 PM
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6. Perfect. nt
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 07:45 PM
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27. Or Haiti and the Dominican Republic
:(
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el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 02:31 PM
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2. I'm going with "Yes"
Bryant
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 02:33 PM
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3. Someone from the North would know what the fuck a "grit" is.
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tinymontgomery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 07:44 PM
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26. My wife and I have been in the south for
twenty something years (due to the navy. She tried shrimp and grits last year, now she orders them all the time. I need to get her back to NY soon.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 02:42 PM
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5. Would southern trees still bear strange fruit?
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 09:20 PM
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34. Yes. n/t
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 09:21 PM
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36. Yes. n/t
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 02:44 PM
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7. Visible proof
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 02:49 PM
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8. The South HAS won the Civil War.
It just took them till 2000 to do it.
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the redcoat Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 02:53 PM
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9. Watch the mockumentary
"The Confederate States of America"
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dhill926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 03:12 PM
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10. we'd have kudzu in all 50 states........
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 03:16 PM
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11. I-95 is paved so, that shows which side won the war. n/t
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 03:26 PM
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12. Harry Turtledove has already told us.
;-)

Series of novels on a world where the South won the first TWO civil wars, but the North wins the next two.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 05:39 PM
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18. I loved those books.
:thumbsup:

Did you read the series he wrote about WWII where aliens invaded?

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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 04:03 PM
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13. Yes, you damn Yankees would have to find somewhere else to move to
As soon as they invented air conditioning the whole damn world wanted to move to the South.

I liked it a lot better when it was just the dregs of society that didn't have anywhere else to go down here.

:toast:
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OZark Dem Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 04:18 PM
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14. I would still live there if
TampaBay hadn't become a suburb of NY/NJ
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 05:10 PM
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15. Love your sig line!
:rofl:
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 05:31 PM
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16. And you could throw all those body parts
Edited on Mon Sep-27-10 05:32 PM by madmax
to the 'gators, eh Dex ;) :rofl: Saw your post on the 'Dexter' thread. Sorry about the spoiler - I didn't post it! :scared:
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 07:12 PM
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23. Yes, because I happen to be a Southerner, I do nothing but chop up bodies all day
And you Yankees wonder why we wish you'd all go back home.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 07:22 PM
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24. What kind of Southerner say's 'you'd all'
isn't ya'll?

Would NC have gone Blue in '08 without us? Two more just moved down last week and I've counted 5 cars in my small development with NJ plates.

I don't know who let the word out but, they're coming down in droves.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 07:38 PM
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25. The kind of Southerner that gets really annoyed when Yankees try to tell him how to talk
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 05:36 PM
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17. If The Confederate States had not entered WWII at the same time as the United States
the entire world might look different
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 05:41 PM
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20. They might have gotten in sooner
and dealt the death blow to Hitler that needed to be delivered ten years earlier than it occurred.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 05:40 PM
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19. Just another thread designed to bash the South
The two nations would have eventually formed an alliance of the same sort that the US and Canada have. We look after each other's backs, even though one side got its independence from the British by war, and the other side got it by waiting for the British to get tired of the weather and just leave.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 06:50 PM
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21. "The two nations would have eventually formed an alliance"
We would be allied with a nation that keeps slaves?
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 07:49 PM
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28. Considering that slavery was already being phased out around the world
by the 1860s, and Brazil was the last Western country to outlaw it (in 1884), it seems highly likely that slavery would have died out in the South before the end of the 19th century.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:08 PM
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29. Perhaps.
But much of the South acts as though they miss having slaves.

And they did fight a war to keep slavery.

(That's what they meant by "State's Rights")
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:29 PM
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30. That's what the slaveowners might have meant by "states' rights"
Edited on Mon Sep-27-10 08:29 PM by Art_from_Ark
but I doubt that the local people who fought at the Battle of Pea Ridge, Arkansas (the largest battle west of the Mississippi) were fighting for their right to keep slaves, since there were just a couple of towns in the area where there were slaves, and only a few at that. Rather, the "states' rights" issue had been ingrained into Southerners from practically the beginning of the Republic, and included other facets such as tariffs, like the so-called "Tariff of Abominations" of 1828 which really stirred up the "states' rights" crowd.
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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 09:01 PM
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31. No
We would not. Note, that customerserviceguy will never respond. He's here just to throw turds.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 09:20 PM
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35. I will respond
And I almost always do. What I consider turd-throwing is the OP.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 09:19 PM
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33. Slavery wouldn't have lasted in the South
By the time WWI came up, it would have become obsolete for a large number of reasons. And, even if I'm wrong, the United States has made alliances with a lot of countries where our concept of freedom is a million miles away from the ordinary people.
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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 09:03 PM
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32. BTW
your profile shows you are in NY, way short of the Mason/Dixon line. I'm in fuckin' southern Texas. Wanna have a more south than you fight?
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 09:24 PM
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37. By a cruel twist of fate, I'm here
OK, just kidding, it was my choice. I'm a fairly recently transplanted Nortwesterner, and if we don't come from Seattle or Portland, we actually get along quite well with Southerners.

I just don't like to see this "The North is better than the South" BS. It takes all of us, urban and rural to make this nation. Speculating about what might have happened a hundred and fifty years ago, that simply just didn't happen, is fine for alternative history fiction, but on a political board, where we're all supposed to be on the same side, is just unnecessarily divisive.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 06:55 PM
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22. Maybe the people in the state of New York would not be ashamed of
names of the towns in the northern part of the state, er, upstate.

Everything that happens, happens in 'upstate New York', rarely a town name given.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 10:20 PM
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38. That's because everyone thinks the only NY is the city


thus the qualifier
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 06:28 AM
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39. More KFC's and Sonics.
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