So as we move to a survelliance society

[quinnox]

It appears President Barak Obama believes we should continue to move towards a surveillance society, with 24/7 monitoring of communications, whether it be cell phone or internet. After all, if you are an innocent person, why should you object, seems to be the philosophy. Now that we are moving towards this new world, I shudder to think of the public signs that will be put up everywhere. I heard in the news that in Britain, which is well advanced on this an always monitored society road, they did tv public service commercials and had public signs essentially saying to go ahead and spy on your neighbors, and they had a special hotline to call in if you saw something suspicious. Perhaps cameras will be installed on every light pole, and they will be able to monitor all houses on the block. Eventually, all movements of citizens and all conversations will be monitored because, hell, we all might be potential terrorists and it must be done to protect our country apparently. If you are a good citizen then you shouldn't object to any of it, because that will just show your guilt! This appears to be the road we are going down.

[katandmoon]

1. K&R and wish I could K&R this times a million.

[FiveGoodMen]

2. "I think I've made a huge mistake!"

-- any number of characters on Arrested Development

[NoNothing]

3. I can speak only for myself, but

I aim to misbehave.

[old mark]

10. It's just part of my personality - I have always done the wrong thing

according to someone's definition, and I believe I'm too damn old to change now...

mark

[dixiegrrrrl]

14. That's the trouble with us senior delinquents, isn't it?

:toast:

[old mark]

21. What used to be vices are now habits and what used to be adventure is now

a pain in the ass...


:evilgrin:

mark

[felix_numinous]

4. At some point a human being has to sift through all that data

I remember a book called The Puzzle Palace, by James Bamford, where the CIAs gargantuan paper shredder kept being clogged and someone with secret clearance had to physically go into the machine and clear it :) I'm sure now they have some kind of AI, that was the 70s.

[Newest Reality]

5. That happens

on the Road to Dystopia.

Notice how it helps exaggerate and inflame the divisive consciousness? Turning people against each other and doing whatever is possible to distract them is useful. Letting them know that they are being watched, (which only needs to be implied) is a psychological operation.

The one's that really should be watched 24/7 and with utmost civil diligence, are the very spectacle clowns and policy tyrants and eliteocrats that have inspired and created the ridiculous and draining debacles we find ourselves immersed in. It is working well and to the advantage of only a small number of us while we are told it is for our "protection". I call SHENANIGANS! there. The increasingly Orwellian and Draconian aura of the Class War reeks of Fascist outcomes.

I am all for civilization and democracy and I certainly hope that we attain both someday. Right now they are just pipe-dreams inserted into the heads of children and adults forging our thinking with a sledgehammer of capitalism as if that is the way things always were and always have to be. Critical thinking and expanding our own awareness and knowledge, as well as questioning the dusty, dirt road of assumptions we believe and honer, is a sure way to disabuse ourselves of centuries of control and domination.

It will change and some things will end. When and what and how is still something that concerns the best interests of us all as a species. Knowing and understanding can be a rather uncomfortable means towards liberation, but it may be the only way, all things considered.

[dixiegrrrrl]

16. Ramen to that.

[phantom power]

6. I'm not sure ubiquitous surveillance can be avoided.

I hope we can manage it, if we can't avoid it.

[krabigirl]

7. K & R. It is creepy and what is worse is that most people just do not care.

[dixiegrrrrl]

18. I have read, today, more than one DU person say

"If you have done nothing wrong, what's the problem"?
with an apparent straight face, so to speak.

[FiveGoodMen]

19. Didn't Ann Coulter say that when she was going after Clinton and wanted to break attorney-client

privilege?

Maybe we've got some "Ann Coulter" Dems here at DU...(sorta like Reagans Dems)

[whatchamacallit]

8. Orwell was a prophet (nt)

[grasswire]

9. Orwell was an optimist. (eom)

[Fumesucker]

12. Orwell was a writer of how-to manuals.. n/t

[Fumesucker]

11. Eh, we're really just getting back to small town living..

Where everyone knows everyone else's business, good, bad, ugly and indifferent.

Which reminds me of how much I hated living in a small town.

[L0oniX]

13. This is all about the rich trying to protect themselves from us.

They want to know what we might plan to do against them. Example: rich = MIC stock holders and or CEO's = FBI attacks on anti war groups.

[WinkyDink]

15. Napolitano is a PARANOIAC.

[lpbk2713]

17. It sounds like J Edgar Hoover is back among us.

He assumed everyone was a bad guy. It was just that not everyone had been caught yet.

[The Straight Story]

20. if it saves people money, like anti-smoking in private bars, fast food restrictions, etc

I am sure there will be many here all for it "If it saves us cash, we should monitor it/tax it/try any way possible to force others to make choices we think they should make" - how else are you going to enforce puritan laws if you don't monitor folks 24x7? We need cameras in peoples' kitchens to make sure they are cooking only what we deem good for them (else we will pay for it in health care costs - tie things to health care and cash and folks will line up to lose their rights for money).