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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:39 AM
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You're Not Going to Believe This Steaming Pile--Fred Thompson Vs. Gore in WaPo
Edited on Sat May-19-07 01:40 AM by wienerdoggie
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/18/AR2007051801681.html

--snip--
It wouldn't be the first time a B-list actor united the country. In fact, part of what this former ladies' man has going for him is widespread Ronald Reagan nostalgia. That, and he's a refreshing contrast to the calculating likes of Gore and even Frist: He's a guy with a Senate legacy of bipartisanship and even-handedness. (When he led the Senate investigation into 1996 campaign-finance irregularities, he targeted not just the Clinton-Gore White House but Republicans, too.)

And he knows how to play the political game. At the start of his Senate race in 1994, Thompson was a high-dollar Washington lawyer and lobbyist who drove a Lincoln Continental, lived in a condo and wore dark suits and ties to even the most folksy barbecue-and-beans Tennessee campaign appearances. But nobody -- nobody with an echo, anyway -- accused him of being phony when he eventually decided to prop up his flailing bid with, well, props: a getup of jeans and work shirt and some down-home locomotion in the form of a used cherry-red Chevy pickup truck that he drove across the state and featured in television ads to transform his campaign.

All of which makes him some combination of brilliant and lucky as hell.

But there's more to it than that. Unlike his Democratic native-son counterpart Gore, who was picked apart like so much Tennessee roadkill in 2000 for his campaign-consultant-directed wardrobe transformation from dark suits to warmer tones, Thompson was rewarded for his makeover from slick silk-stocking lawyer to accomplished hayseed. In 1996, when he won election to his first full term, more Tennesseans voted for Thompson than for any other politician in state history.

Thompson never came off looking like a cardboard cutout -- the way Gore did as a presidential candidate -- because there was a kernel of truth to the image. Who could imagine a teenage Gore driving a pickup along Massachusetts Avenue on his way to the privileged academic bastion of St. Albans? But young Freddie Thompson probably did kick back in a Chevy, drinking a beer with his buds, after a Lawrence County High School football game. As Tennessee columnist Frank Cagle once put it, Thompson fit that truck in a way that Michael Dukakis never fit the tank.

Course, Thompson also tends to catch some slack because, at 6 feet 6 inches and with a charm and sense of humor that can crack even the most tightly clenched among us, he's someone men want to be and women want to be with. He's the John Wayne to Gore's professor. Gore was the prep-school son of a U.S. senator from Carthage, Tenn., spending most of his formative years not in the green hills of the Volunteer State but in the monument-dotted confines of Washington. Thompson was the son of a used-car salesman from Lawrenceburg, Tenn., who, like Thompson's mother, never graduated from high school.

Gore was always destined for the academic stratosphere, attending Harvard after his private-school grooming. Thompson was such a class clown and scholastic underachiever at Lawrence County High that a group of teachers got together to protest his being named "Most Athletic" by his classmates because they didn't want to reward the kid for being a goof-off.

You get the picture. Thompson's upbringing and early résumé didn't foreshadow someone who might one day be drafted to lead the free world.

--snip--


I'm not a Gore fan, and this writer (Liz Garrigan) sounds like a Tennessee Republican, but it looks a little like a pre-emptive strike on Gore here. Why the heavy compare-and-contrast, when Gore isn't even running? Anyone else read it that way? Either way, the article is pure drivel, and factually incorrect in places.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:48 AM
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1. He's "Not divisive".
:eyes:

Let's see. He's anti-choice (when most Americans are pro-choice) ... he supports the Iraq war (when most Americans oppose it) .. he "doesn't believe" in Global Warming. One has to assume that, like the GOP "base" that is gaa-gaa for the guy, he doesn't believe in evolution, either.

Oh, yeah. That's REALLY fucking "moderate" and "not divisive". :eyes:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:54 AM
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3. When his positions are known, he will prove to be INSANELY
divisive--he has said the most hyperpartisan things over the last few months, calling Harry Reid "extremist", for example, and saying that we should help overthrow Iran's government. Look at the Michael Moore fight he picked, and the video he made--he's a neocon lunatic. This lady didn't do anything but recite what she heard from his promoters--I'll bet she didn't do any real research at all.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 02:18 AM
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6. I figure if the right wing is getting all gooey over him, he's GOTTA be nuts.
Seems fairly obvious.

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 02:01 AM
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5. Also, he compared Dennis Kucinich's promotion of the Fairness Doctrine
to Hugo Chavez's crackdown on the media in Venezuela. Yep-- Kucinich = Chavez (and not the "fun" generous side of Chavez--the dictator side, LOL!).
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 06:06 AM
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12. "Not divisive", these days
Means you haven't called anyone a fag this week.

You have to know how to read these stenographers properly.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:52 AM
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2. Yes, it's just what we need- a true POLITICIAN'S politician.
That's what the people want.

What an idiotic article.

Two words, WaPo- Bold. Leadership.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:55 AM
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4. There was no journalism here--just a high school fan mag piece.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 09:26 AM
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19. Putting the "Fan" back in Fanaticism...
What a sad waste of ink and ad space.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 05:59 AM
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11. Yes, just what we need - another clown.
From the article:

"Thompson was such a class clown and scholastic underachiever at Lawrence County High that a group of teachers got together to protest his being named "Most Athletic" by his classmates because they didn't want to reward the kid for being a goof-off."

Does that remind you of a certain "cheerleader" we know?


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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 02:35 AM
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7. It is amazing that they can type this with a straight face
Edited on Sat May-19-07 02:35 AM by hfojvt
they should be playing professional poker or something.

"he's a refreshing contrast to the calculating likes of Gore...And he knows how to play the political game....nobody -- nobody with an echo, anyway -- accused him of being phony when he eventually decided to prop up his flailing bid with, well, props: a getup of jeans and work shirt and some down-home locomotion in the form of a used cherry-red Chevy pickup truck that he drove across the state and featured in television ads to transform his campaign."


He's not calculating, see, because nobody in the SCLM (M$M) attacks him when he makes a calculating move.

Somerby does a great job of comparing the way NBC handled each party's debate:

BRIAN WILLIAMS, OPENING QUESTION (4/26/07): Senator Clinton, your party's leader in the United States Senate, Harry Reid, recently said the war in Iraq is lost. A letter to today's USA Today calls his comments "treasonous" and says if General Patton were alive today, Patton would wipe his boots with Senator Reid. Do you agree with the position of your leader in the Senate?

CHRIS MATTHEWS, OPENING QUESTION (5/3/07): In the NBC-Wall Street Journal poll, just 22 percent believe this country is on the right track. Mayor Giuliani, how do we get back to Ronald Reagan's morning in America?

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh051007.shtml
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 04:17 AM
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8. A whole lot of "preemptive strikes" on Gore all of a sudden n/t
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 08:28 AM
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16. Yep....the Time Magazine cover and article tended to be fair to Gore..
Gore scares the shit out of these BushBots and Reagan worshipers. Just because He REALLY IS AUTHENTIC and all of their heroes were propped up and faked by their adoring masses and the "special interests" whose job is to astroturf.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 05:34 AM
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9. Liz Garrigan has taken over where Peggy Noonan left off....
that article doesn't even deserve to be in a high school newspaper, no less the Washington Post. I had to get my hip boots on to read it.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 05:52 AM
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10. Steaming pile is right! Let's see if I've got this straight...
At the start of his Senate race in 1994, Thompson was a high-dollar Washington lawyer and lobbyist who drove a Lincoln Continental, lived in a condo and wore dark suits and ties to even the most folksy barbecue-and-beans Tennessee campaign appearances. But nobody -- nobody with an echo, anyway -- accused him of being phony when he eventually decided to prop up his flailing bid with, well, props: a getup of jeans and work shirt and some down-home locomotion in the form of a used cherry-red Chevy pickup truck that he drove across the state and featured in television ads to transform his campaign.


Thompson never came off looking like a cardboard cutout -- the way Gore did as a presidential candidate -- because there was a kernel of truth to the image. Who could imagine a teenage Gore driving a pickup along Massachusetts Avenue on his way to the privileged academic bastion of St. Albans? But young Freddie Thompson probably did kick back in a Chevy, drinking a beer with his buds, after a Lawrence County High School football game. As Tennessee columnist Frank Cagle once put it, Thompson fit that truck in a way that Michael Dukakis never fit the tank.

Sooooo...what this genius seems to be saying is that Fred Thompson could pull off his folksy transformation because he's a real phony, y'see...but Al Gore can't even change his suit color without getting put through the shredder because he's a phony phony! Did ya get that?

Do these pundits even make sense to themselves???


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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 09:19 AM
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17. Excellent point! Fred's a phony on the surface, but deep down he's genuine,
so nobody dares call him a phony when he acts phony, because we all know it's an act. Gonna have to ponder on that one for a while. This was about the most disgustingly obvious "sales pitch" I've ever seen in a national newspaper (WaPo picked it up from a Nashville-based writer), and yet manages to be a hit piece on Gore at the same time--I guess it accomplished the WaPo mission of promoting a neocon over a Dem, and they didn't even have to send their own writers to do it--they found the head of Thompson's fan club in Tennessee to do it for them.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:39 PM
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29. Just a note: Frank Cagle is the Knoxville News-Sentinel's CONSERVATIVE
Edited on Sat May-19-07 12:39 PM by Clark2008
pundit.

He even hosted a conservative, local radio show. Geesch.

:eyes:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 06:54 AM
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13. Pure crap...its all spin for Fred....he was a Senator...never a real "Leader"
IMO, He don't qualy for the Oval...
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 10:52 AM
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22. He was governor of Tennessee and cleaned it up after R. Blanton (D) was imprisoned.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 11:24 AM
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23. i remain a skeptic...as i do with many of the others..both sides.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 11:36 AM
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25. He was NEVER Gov of Tennessee--where did you come up with that?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:42 PM
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30. Thompson was never our governor.
?????


He was on the board of paroles and helped to topple the Blanton regime, but he was never the governor.

Did you mean something else?
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 07:34 AM
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14. This writer is an idiotic moron
Unfortunately too many Americans are just as stupid and buy into this "folksy regular guy, I want my president to by a dumbass, not some intellectual elitist," bullshit.

This article exemplifies everything that is wrong with America.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 08:25 AM
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15. OMG....Did Tweety Matthews write this? Sure sounds like him!
:eyes: Manly Men...as opposed to Earth Toned Fakers....Guy you'd like to chug a beer with...authentic.

Reminds me of Tweety's ravings about the Chimperor and his codpiece.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 09:23 AM
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18. yes, it is drivel but it will once again be successful...
Edited on Sat May-19-07 09:24 AM by RestoreGore
In getting more people discussing this drivel than the serious issues we face and Mr. Gore is now working on. That I believe is the MO of all of this crap.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 09:31 AM
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20. No mention, of course, that the pick-up truck was rented. n/t
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 09:37 AM
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21. Or that he didn't actually drive the pick-up more than a few miles--
certainly not "across the state"--as if he was that dedicated, LOL!
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 11:31 AM
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24. been there, done that
"Thompson was such a class clown and scholastic underachiever at Lawrence County High that a group of teachers got together to protest his being named "Most Athletic" by his classmates because they didn't want to reward the kid for being a goof-off.

You get the picture. Thompson's upbringing and early résumé didn't foreshadow someone who might one day be drafted to lead the free world."

What do you say we don't go down THAT road again!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 11:37 AM
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26. Another thread foisting up a MSM article with lots of photographs proves it:
Edited on Sat May-19-07 11:37 AM by HypnoToad
Audience priming. (albeit indirectly.)

As you said, Gore isn't even running. That's the impetus behind my conjecture-laden response.

There are only so many reasons why such a game would be played. Occam's razor; the least complex reason is most likely the most accurate one. Therefore the media is testing the public's reaction to the concept of Gore running.

So, is it the media playing around based on gossip and meanderings from the public, or is somebody else planting these stories to fish for our responses, based on events of the last ~3 or so years.

I have a feeling Gore may have fathomed the idea to attempt another run. But there is no evidence; just this game. Therefore it's just as much probable the media is responding to public events than anything else could be.

In short, ditch the remote and grab the popcorn. It's gonna be entertaining until Hillary gets the nomination. :7


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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 11:37 AM
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27. Top of my list is a President who looks good in a pickup truck. n/t
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 11:54 AM
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28. wow...i'm honestly impressed
haven't seen this kind of media propping since that unpopular former governor of tejas...if Mitt ever gets similar treatment from the WaPo, watch out
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:46 PM
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31. More garbage from Pravda
They really are impressive in their ability to put out colored copy and sheer hogwash.
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