As a group, the 25%ers are growing dangerously unstable.

[Philosoraptor]

Whether you encounter them at the office, or you hear them call into cspan, the 25% that STILL support bush and his insane war are growing ever more unstable. You often hear republicans who are pissed at bush and his policies, didn't used to hear from those folks at all until recently, but the stalwart to a fault 25%ers, (an ever decreasing percentage) are hanging on to every fantasy, every phony buzz phrase, every delusion beyond all logic and reason.

You can hear real desperation and rage in their voices, worse than their usual vitriol, they sound as if zombies were clawing at their kitchen doors. They're starting to really worry me, the poor things.

These types of people are harmless enough individually, but as a collective group they are more than just annoying, they start to become scary, and alarming.

If they can witness the same atrocities we've witnessed and STILL support the maniacal neo cons, despite every treason and tyranny and war crime and scandal, then I assume they are mentally unstable, dangerous to themselves and others, and must be watched and monitored. They are not invaders from Mars, they are your brothers and sisters and moms and dads and neighbors, they're everywhere.

I fear what they could be made to do by our unscrupulous, hell-bent for glory 'leaders'.

[radfringe]

1. I bet the number is really lower

than 25% still blindly behind bush... betcha some of them are just trying to find a graceful way to save face before they "officially" jump ship

[H2O Man]

2. Perhaps NBC

could start a new freak show .... "To Catch a Republican." They could start conversations on the internets, and set republicans up. Have the police waiting in the shadows to cart them off when they show up on human beans' doorsteps, with their pamplets and stuff.

[opihimoimoi]

8. Now THAT IS HILARIOUSLY FUNNY...ROTF LMAO

I can see them coming through the door into a kitchen thinking they gonna meet a PUB 13 year old

Chris Hansen would ask them questions...like WHAT are you doing here???

[H2O Man]

9. NBC Transcript:

Evil-doing republican: "But I just wanted to talk about who they were planning to vote for! Really! Really!"

Chris Hamsen: "Sure, Mr. Rove. But we have your messages on the groove-tube about stealing votes .... though you are free to leave this house at any time."

[irish.lambchop]

3. These people are just like bush -

they cannot admit they were wrong - even when the facts slap them across the chops. They ARE unhinged - just like their 'leader'. Thankfully, only one person I know belongs to the 25% clan and as each day brings a new administration low to light, he seems even more determined to head right off the cliff. It's not even a matter of politics or difference of opinions anymore - it's a deeply personal delusion.

[rasputin1952]

17. I hear an occasional, "but it's all politics!" ...Well of course it

is, just else what do they think it would be?

Of course, my standard retort is, "Where were you when Clinton was being hung out to dry?", which brings the standard, "That's different!"

It is very difficult for people to realize they've made a mistake, for some, it is impossible.

[mrcheerful]

4. So true, when Clinton did it too no longer provides them an excuse

its time for death threats and calling gods warth down on those damn liberals and the poor they support. Another thing they seem to cling to is this belief that all rich people should be happy about tax cuts and how shrubs economy has pushed all of their earnings up while everyone elses went down. Saw that on Bill Mahers show last night, the puke from Wall Street couldn't believe that 2 very rich men, Bill and Brad, were complaining about the workers and poor were being left out in shrubs booming economy. His smile froze when Brad complained he wasn't paying enough in taxes.

[Marr]

5. If we do have another domestic terrorist attack, that's the first group I'll suspect.

I've noticed this, too. On the other hand, it may be that the Bush supporters you hear insanely ranting now were the same way 2 years ago, but Bush used to have a somewhat larger base. The only ones left in GW Bush's camp are the truly paranoid. There's no saner group mixed in with them anymore, and so their ranting is front and center.

[rodeodance]

6. ITs the inner ring (aids)----then outer ring (his cabinent) and most of personnel

in these departments that are still with him (at least in public)---when this out ring starts raveling, they will fall. Justice Dept is crumbling but still intack.
EPA is in trouble, but still pushing (climate control).

[izzie]

7. I can believe it after all the terrorist are the few and look at what

things they do. Terrorist has always been used by people who have no power and as any one sees power slip from them they will act out, ot to gain it. Look at the KKK or any group that goes for power and rules they are sure they are right about.. It is not what you speak but your place in society. Ones they get into groups it is a mob thing. Like kicking the girl to death. One man would hardly do it as he is not brave enough to pick on a weaker person but get 10 and killing off a weaker person can be done. I am sure you will see some really odd stuff with these far right nuts now that Bush is going down.

[bullimiami]

10. theyve been bragging about the emperors beautiful clothes for so long

its nearly impossible for them to admit they dont exist.

[Wiley50]

11. It's the Immigration Bill. They feel Sold Out by Bush

Lou Dobbs has been whipping up their anger over Mexicans,
along with most of their other heros.

We're gaining a lot of one issue converts

[Robson]

14. Except there are just as many Democrats that oppose amnesty

Many Democrats I know are against amnesty and against increasing H1B visas. Economic reality for most is a basis for their political beliefs, and the reality is that illegal immigration is hurtful to most working Americans and it will only get worse as Social Security and Medicare will be busted by it.

BTW I agree that the 25%ers have their head stuck where the sun doesn't shine. That's the only answer as they are overcome.

[treestar]

29. All false and proved as false many times over

The economy is not hurt by immigrants. If anything, we need immigrants to fill in the gap left by the baby bust.

That immigrants and illegals cost us anything in Social Security, welfare and Medicaid is just falsehood whipped up by right wing racists.

[Ian David]

12. Two words: Oklahoma City.

When Repukes get desperate, they get violent.

It's all the really know or understand.

It's at the core of their cold, dark souls.

[mwb970]

13. It's more that only unstable people remain as supporters.

After all, it's clear that something would have to be very wrong with you if you still support the worthless screwups presently staining our White House.

[KharmaTrain]

15. Remember...The Corporate Media Had Them At Over 50% A Year Ago

In 2005, it seemed like the crawled out of everywhere. You saw "W" stickers on SUVs and the word was Democrats were all but dead and this was a "Conservative" country.

The worm began to slowly turn with Schaivo then Katrina and Plame and Foley and Gonzo and Iraq, Iraq, Iraq...but it still hasn't penetrated the beltway and the corporate media elite that still live off their regime handers. Until the Repugnicans are vanquished from any power, then their grip on this cadre will continue. That's where we have to continue to work and push for change and accountability.

Remember, this 25% is now forming a circular firing squad in hopes of finding its next "Raygun" from a bunch of jokers. The 75% of us outside this circus are looking in with both amusement and disgust as the Repgunicans make themselves more and more irrelevent and dig their own electoral doom next year. In this aspect, we owe the corporate media thanks...they're shining lights on the most extreme and the reaction is not one that will help the GOOP when they have to face 100% of the electoral next year.

Cheers...

:hi:

[Herman74]

16. "I assume they are mentally unstable,...

dangerous to themselves and others, and must be watched and monitored." -- Philosoraptor

We saw evidence of this during the last Republican debate, with such comments as Mitt wanting not to eliminate Guantanamo, but double its size, and some other Republican candidate wanting to send in the fictional, torture-loving Jack Bauer.

[The Backlash Cometh]

18. And you KNOW that among them you'll find the biggest group that

stashes weapons. So, yes, they're the group I worry about whenever some right-wing hate-radio guy talks about killing liberals.

[warrior1]

19. why are the democratic members

of congress afraid of the 25 percenters?

Do what the majority is asking and get the fuck out of Iraq and impeach bush and cheney. The world will thank you for it.

[annabanana]

22. Because 1) the megaphone owners are still raking buckets of dough

from the "failed" policies. . . and
2) Our electronic voting machines are still full of private source code..

[Hamlette]

20. along those lines there has been an interesting discussion by readers of a blog

What American 'conservatism' has become fits closely within the definition of fascism: an intensely nationalist movement intent on defining membership in the 'nation' on linguistic, religious, and (increasingly) ethnic/racial criteria, accompanied by an unquestioning loyalty to (male) authority, enshrined in family leaders, business leaders, religious leaders, and especially, the leader of the nation, who is seen as embodying the Nation. Loyalty to the Party or Movement and its ideology is of great importance. Violence is the preferred means of accomplishing goals. Diplomacy, compromise, negotiation, are all identified with (feminine) weakness. The rule of law is also despised, because it lacks the immediacy of (violent) action, and its emphasis on balance and its concern with proper procedure is also seen as a sign of (feminine) weakness.

This is the outcome of the bargain the GOP made with the Devil back when it decided to go for the Wallace voters after the ’68 and ’72 elections. Kevin Phillips has repented a hundred times over for counseling the Southern Strategy, but too late. The GOP has discovered that when you sell your soul to the Devil, the only question is when does the Devil come to collect? Well, he's come.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/05/the_fate_of_con.html

Conservatism has nothing to do with libertarianism, and on the contrary has always had a strong authoritarian strain. Once this was expressed as reverence for monarchy, now it is the Doctrine of the Unitary Executive and a reflexive desire to defend the military. Hayek noticed what he called (in 'Why I am Not a Conservative') the conservatives' 'fondness for authority':

Let me return, however, to the main point, which is the characteristic complacency of the conservative toward the action of established authority and his prime concern that this authority be not weakened rather than that its power be kept within bounds. This is difficult to reconcile with the preservation of liberty. In general, it can probably be said that the conservative does not object to coercion or arbitrary power so long as it is used for what he regards as the right purposes. He believes that if government is in the hands of decent men, it ought not to be too much restricted by rigid rules. Since he is essentially opportunist and lacks principles, his main hope must be that the wise and the good will rule - not merely by example, as we all must wish, but by authority given to them and enforced by them. Like the socialist, he is less concerned with the problem of how the powers of government should be limited than with that of who wields them; and, like the socialist, he regards himself as entitled to force the value he holds on other people.

Bush has not corrupted conservatism, he is acting out the kind of conservatism Hayek described in this essay. I think that is the only kind of conservatism that has ever existed as a real political force.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/05/dissent_of_the__4.html

No wonder these guys like torture. It TOTALLY fits with what they believe. Turn it over to "the right guy" and let him do what he wants. (For those of you who hate Sully note these are his readers not him talking. Note though that he mostly agrees with them.)

[Orsino]

21. The entire country is less stable and secure.

Hell, the entire planet is. The cognitive dissonance must be a particular strain on the Party of Denial, though.

[DesertRat]

23. Watch the View some morning

It's great entertainment to watch Elizabeth H. desperately explaining and apologizing for all of the administration's blunders.

[bunkerbuster1]

24. Poke them with sticks. Make them explode. Why not?

I don't fear these sorry-ass little pricks and neither should we. We should welcome their little hissy-fits.

They wind up beating their family/pets/etc. behind closed doors as a matter of habit anyway. Make them come out in the open and wage their pathetic little jihad against secularism, or whatever the hell it is that's eating them.

The battle will be short and decisive if they do.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

28. how do you deal with an angry, rabid, frothing, cornered mad dog?

carefully.

I don't mind the stick, so long as it is long enough and strong enough.

[Triana]

25. What'da expect from a bunch of psychopaths? (n/t)

[pat_k]

26. Yep. Their heads are exploding as their house of cards falls.

[Philosoraptor]

27. .