Obama's new tune on DADT repeal: "Keep the LONG VIEW in mind".

[Bluebear]

FAIL.

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via Americablog: In an interview with Rolling Stone, President Obama suggests that DADT repeal is on track, and appeals to repeal advocates to take it slow and "keep the long view in mind." Well, to paraphrase Keynes, in the long view we're all dead.

Legislatively, DADT repeal (or whatever you'd like to call the far-short-of-repeal compromise legislation created by Winnie Stachelberg at the Center for American Progress) is dead this month, and stands next to no chance of passing during the lame duck session. This is a Congress (and a President) that refused to support a vote on health care reform during last January's quasi "lame duck" session before Scott Brown was seated. There's no reason to believe that they'd "man up" any better over a gay civil rights issue.

So that means the President's strategy on DADT repeal is now a bust. Either we lose the House, and nothing happens on gay civil rights for, oh, another 14 years, or we barely hold on to the House, and members are so shell shocked they don't touch what they consider "controversial" legislation (i.e., anything even vaguely progressive) for another generation or two.

Rather than acknowledge the reality of how bad things are, the President would like you to believe that everything is on track, and if you'd only give him a little more time (say, until after the upcoming elections) everything little thing is gonna be all right. Then, in a few months, after you've already voted for Democrats once again, and you suddenly realize that the President wasn't quite telling the truth - that DADT is still f'd, and going nowhere fast, along with DOMA and ENDA - the President will move the goal posts a wee bit further, suggesting that if we give him one more term, then he'll be able to finally get to his gay civil rights promises.

http://gay.americablog.com/2010/09/obama-on-dadt-keep-long-view-in-mind.html

[Hell Hath No Fury]

1. Where is a that smiley?

Found it!

:banghead:

I have said it from the beginning -- this Admnistraiton will kick this can down the road as far as they can. In the meantime, good American men and women are being ousted from the military -- something we cannot afford as a country.

Face it LGBTs, they are not going to hand it to you -- you (and your allies) are going to have to take it from them. It's time to amp up the heat on all fronts -- judicial, political, financial.

[Bluebear]

12. +++++

[LonePirate]

2. Unless the SC overturns it, DADT will be around until at least 2017 unless

A true, progressive Dem defeats Obama in the 2012 primaries. This administration could not care less about its LGBT supporters.

[chimpymustgo]

20. It doesn't care about ANY of its supporters except Wall Street - which has deserted them.

This is so fucked up. DADT should have been dealt with on Day 1.

[Jax]

3. Fucking cowardly bullshit.

Sick of hearing that 'long haul' crap from so called Democrats, nothing Democratic about that stand in any way.

Gutless and cowardly.

I am remembering a despicable post here that told GLBT DUers basically this same shit.

[jaxx]

4. The 3rd and 4th paragraphs on page 5 give the exact words

the President used. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/209395?RS_show_page=5

Don't give up, it will happen.

[Stinky The Clown]

7. Are these the paragraphs to which you refer?

ARGH - hit Post too soon . . . . . Here is what I intended to include:

Understandably, everybody has a great sense of urgency about these issues. But one of the things that I constantly want to counsel my friends is to keep the long view in mind. On social issues, something like "don't ask, don't tell." Here, I've got the Secretary of Defense and the Joint Chiefs of Staff both committed to changing the policy. That's a big deal.

You get credit for that.
Now, I am also the commander in chief of an armed forces that is in the midst of one war and wrapping up another one. So I don't think it's too much to ask, to say "Let's do this in an orderly way" — to ensure, by the way, that gays and lesbians who are serving honorably in our armed forces aren't subject to harassment and bullying and a whole bunch of other stuff once we implement the policy. I use that as an example because on each of these areas, even those where we did not get some grand legislative victory, we have made progress. We have moved in the right direction.

Why is getting the SecDef and JCS "committed" such a big deal? All it takes to get their "commitment" is a simple "do it."

And the rest of this sounds like it was excerpted from that stupid 90 point list of "accomplishments" that included such gems as "started to consider thinking about doing X"

Sorry. This is no news at all and no reason for anything apart from a dim view of any hope for real change. I don't see and commitment in any of the words in those two paragraphs. Are they, in fact, the ones to which you were referring?

[Lost4words]

19. bullshit circle d!

[BzaDem]

5. As usual, you blame exactly the wrong party. Repeating yourself ten times doesn't make you right. nt

[Starry Messenger]

6. Maybe the next Dem president needs to be old.

Someone without a lot of time left and a sense of urgency.

[readmoreoften]

14. Best Post in Thread.

[Lost4words]

21. wiser and more anti phony wars! new dems seem to suck!

[Bluebear]

22. Well stated

[bobbolink]

23. And homeless. THAT's urgency.

[COLGATE4]

8. More smiley-face euphemisms for "don't worry your pretty

little heads about it, it'll some along some day, just you wait and see".

[Jax]

9. kick

[Unvanguard]

10. I've been taking the "long view" on DADT repeal for almost two years

and I am growing tired of it.

Show us some results, Mr. President.

[Bluebear]

11. Dan Choi is now unemployed thanks to this "long view". nt

[readmoreoften]

13. Tell it to the lesbians being sexually assaulted and blackmailed

by DADT. Lesbians of Color being the worst affected.

I'm so sick of his cowardly bullshit.

[VMI Dem]

15. Personal feelings don't affect policy decisions?

Bullshit.

[Bluebear]

16. You said it.

[Vinca]

17. Well . . . cheer up . . . the Log Cabin Republicans are getting the job done.

:banghead:

[Le Taz Hot]

18. Just goes to show

that if you live long enough, you see history repeating itself. During the Civil Rights debates in the 60's there were two sides: Dr. King advocated to go slow as it takes time to change attitudes. The other side, represented by the Black Panther Movement, Malcom X and other activists basically said Justice Delayed is Justice Denied (I think it was one of the Supremes that said it first). As much as I loved Dr. King, the second group was the correct side. We don't need to wait, the bigots need to evolve.

[Freddie Stubbs]

24. Does anyone believe that there will be MORE votes to repeal DADT next year?