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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 10:18 AM
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Savage Weiner calls Latino advocacy group "the Ku Klux Klan of the Hispanic people"
Perhaps he doesn't get the irony of him calling anybody a racist.... :shrug:


From MediaMatters:


Savage called Latino advocacy group "the Ku Klux Klan of the Hispanic people"

On the May 17 edition of his nationally syndicated radio program, Michael Savage labeled Hispanic advocacy group the National Council of La Raza (NCLR) "the Ku Klux Klan of the Hispanic people." Savage also said of NCLR, "This is the most stone racist group I've ever seen in this country!" despite noting, "It's true they haven't hung anybody."

NCLR describes itself as "the largest national Hispanic civil rights and advocacy organization in the United States," which "conducts applied research, policy analysis, and advocacy, providing a Latino perspective in five key areas -- assets/investments, civil rights/immigration, education, employment and economic status, and health. In addition, it provides capacity-building assistance to its Affiliates who work at the state and local level to advance opportunities for individuals and families."

Savage also stated that proponents of stricter immigration laws will be called "racist," adding, "They're going to call you anti-immigrant. They're going to call you nativist. They're going to say, 'Shame, shame on you.' You turn it back on them! You tell them they're the racist for hating America." He added: "You tell them you're not going to be taken over by a group of Hispanic supremacists in La Raza." Referring to NCLR, he said: "They certainly stand only for one race. That's the name of their group: La Raza -- 'The Race.' "

While the term "la raza" in Spanish literally means "the race," it is often translated as "the people" and usually refers collectively to Mexican-Americans, according to the American Heritage Dictionary, "sometimes extending to all Spanish-speaking people of the Americas."

...(snip)...

SAVAGE: They've called us every name under the sun. They've tried everything -- that was George Bush -- and make no mistake about it, you're going to hear yourself called every name under the sun. That's right, they're going to call you racist. They're going to call you anti-immigrant. They're going to call you nativist. They're going to say, "Shame, shame on you."

You turn it back on them! You tell them they're the racist for hating America. You tell them they're the racist for hating white people! For hating European-Americans, you tell them they're the racist. You tell them you're not going to be taken over by a group of Hispanic supremacists in La Raza, because I don't know how in the world a group like La Raza, which in Spanish means "the race," can be invited into the White House and dictate to the White House which way the White House should go.

But make no mistake about it. The Hispanic supremacists in La Raza, they didn't say "all races," they said "the race." This is the most stone racist group I've ever seen in this country! They're the Ku Klux Klan of the Hispanic people! That's how I see it! Now, should I be fined for saying that? Go ahead, fine me.

In my opinion, La Raza is the equivalent of the Ku Klux Klan for the Hispanic people. It's true they haven't hung anybody, but they certainly stand only for one race. That's the name of their group: La Raza -- "The Race." They didn't say "all races." They said, "the race," so they're saying their race is the race, and that means all the other races, who are not Hispanic, are to be subjugated to their race -- the race -- which is superior and supreme. They now are dictating the policies of this country with regard to illegal immigration.
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The complete piece is at: http://mediamatters.org/items/200705180010?f=h_latest



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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 10:21 AM
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1. Given any particular mindset, any idea can be racist.
Latino GLBT
Ms Black America (oi, that's doubly racist! Blacks only, women only)

I don't mind affirmative action (forced integration based on similar intellectual criteria) as much as I do real discrimination (the forced segregation of people based on superficial criteria).

Mind you, all that still doesn't make Wiener right.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 10:25 AM
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5. Forced? ... Concepts such as Lation GLBT or Ms Black America....
are more often than not the result of mainstream exclusion, or a specific set of concerns that a mainstream group is not addressing. I understand what you're saying, but American society is much more complex than that.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 10:36 AM
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7. An excellent point, well said.
(I stand corrected, and please do not take my response as any form of insult. I do agree with you.)
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 10:21 AM
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2. He's 100% wrong about the meaning of "la raza."
It's an inclusive term, not exclusive. But then again, I wouldn't bother to argue with Savage. He's paid to spread lies.

From wikipedia:

La Raza (Mexican Spanish IPA: ; Castillian Spanish IPA: ) is a Spanish-language term (literally meaning "the race", but also connoting "el pueblo" or "la gente", both of which mean "the people"), which refers generally to the people of Latin America who share the cultural and political legacies of Spanish colonialism, including the Spanish language and culture, and their descendants.

It is very roughly analogous to the English-language terms "Hispanic" or "Latino", in that it attempts to define/describe a group of people with a common (Spanish-speaking) cultural heritage, despite the wide variations among those cultures.

The term "La Raza" may also encompass a racial significance associated with "mestizaje", or race-mixing (in the Americas not in Spain). In this sense, the term is inclusive of the Indigenous peoples of the Americas, the descendants of African peoples brought to Latin America as slaves, European immigrants, as well as the racial identities that comprise the Iberian peninsula — and all the mixtures among them.

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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 10:21 AM
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3. They are way behind in the lynching department.
Ohhhh...... 100,000 or so.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 10:23 AM
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4. There are so many aspects to attack savage weiner on
but I don't want to be accused of stooping to his level. So I'll shut up.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 10:28 AM
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6. So does Savage disapprove?
He's not accusing them of anything he doesn't do.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 10:42 AM
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8. "Hispanic" is a race?!!1 n/t
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