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Wed Sep-29-10 04:08 PM
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The Actual O'Keefe Papers |
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http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/09/specials/cnn.caper/index.html'Punking' CNN The following highlights the relevant portions of a 13-page document obtained by CNN outlining a plan to 'punk' CNN. Click through the pages to see more.
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Wed Sep-29-10 04:13 PM
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1. Sweet fucking jesus it's like it just gets worse and worse... |
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Jimmy...you are a prime candidate for a new word: "journaljism."
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Wed Sep-29-10 04:14 PM
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2. This is the funniest thing I've read in a long time |
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Everybody needs to read through this!
:rolf:
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Wed Sep-29-10 05:06 PM
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20. video a woman without her knwoing and put it on the net.... such a hoot. it isnt funny. it is sick |
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Wed Sep-29-10 05:13 PM
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24. Did you read the papers? |
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I hope Jon Stewart has a hoot with this tonight.
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Wed Sep-29-10 05:15 PM
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25. i would hope it would not be about being entertained by the man, but disgusted that a man would |
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Wed Sep-29-10 05:22 PM
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"James should have a more sleazy persona than normal, with slicked back hair and exposing his chest. It should be entirely over the top. The persona should be very touchy-feely, ideally wearing gold chains and with cigarettes."
Come on! You must have the ability to laugh at that! :rofl:
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Wed Sep-29-10 05:34 PM
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28. no. as a woman, i dont laugh at a man planning on sexually humiliating a woman and exploiting her |
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Edited on Wed Sep-29-10 05:35 PM by seabeyond
by putting it on the net.
no...
it isnt funny in the least
that we feel it is such the norm to put an unaware woman in an explotive manner on the net, and not a single person being bothered.... but thinking the text is funny.... says a lot how much of a norm this has become.
did he have drugs in that room? did he plan to go beyond an attempt to seduce.... these are questions women are concerned about, as you.... laugh.
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Wed Sep-29-10 05:38 PM
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29. No sense of humor whatsoever |
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Wed Sep-29-10 05:40 PM
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30. making a sexually exploitive tape of a woman and putting it on net |
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no
no sense of humor.
it isnt funny. it isnt a joke. it is perverted and disgusting. it is not a first time women have experienced this. a man killed himself today? yesterday? exactly from one of these.... oh so ..... funnies.
no
it isnt funny
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Wed Sep-29-10 05:44 PM
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31. It didn't actually happen |
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You're aware of this, right? The fact that this guy actually spent the time to write out this hilarious document is what's funny.
Man. Don't ever go to a comedy show.
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Wed Sep-29-10 05:52 PM
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34. so, for a man to have the intent to do this to a woman does not matter |
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since it did not actually happen.
hell, someone threatens to shoot the pres and we are up in arms about the suggestion. but it didnt happen. why riled? because a person suggested that he wanted to shoot a president is a sick mother fucker.
a man with the intent to sexually humiliate this woman is of no consequence because after all, it happens on the net regularly. liten up. it is funny. look what he is saying. drugs? maybe, but what the fuck... funny
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Wed Sep-29-10 05:55 PM
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35. I REALLY don't think you actually read it |
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Seriously. Read it. The fact that this guy actually thought he was going to pull this off is what's funny. And why do you think Abbie Boudreau would've been so stupid as to fall for it?
But thanks for totally sucking the life out of this one.
Geez. :eyes:
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Wed Sep-29-10 05:57 PM
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37. and if she had gone in the room, drank a cup of coffee and was drugged. if a man has no morals |
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that he would sexually exploit a woman on film and put it on net, what makes you think he would not drug her to accomplish that. maybe, because as a woman, we know the danger.... to us.... to our body.... is greater than a joke.
thanks for playing
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Wed Sep-29-10 05:59 PM
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39. You're imagining things |
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None of that happened. Abbie actually didn't get on the boat. She never would have, because she's not an idiot. As it stands, this is comedy material. And it will be on Jay Leno tonight, as well as Letterman, Kimmel, and Stewart.
Get a grip.
I'm done.
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Wed Sep-29-10 06:01 PM
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40. becasue really, so beyond the realm, that men that cant get women, drug women |
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or video them in sexually explotive manners, or put it on the net.
and some men on du said.... no way. not a man on du would think this is.... funny.
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Wed Sep-29-10 06:03 PM
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41. OK seriously you actually have to read it |
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Wed Sep-29-10 06:07 PM
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42. hey... seriously, you are pruposely being obtuse |
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cause no one is this slow.
i thought you were done.
go giggle about what this man thought he would/could do to humiliate a woman.
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Wed Sep-29-10 06:08 PM
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I notice you haven't actually said that you read it.
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Thu Sep-30-10 05:49 AM
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57. maybe you should read it... |
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it's the absurdity of the plot and the ridiculousness of what he thought he could pull off that is laughable
of course no one is laughing at the prospect of him denigrating this woman
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Thu Sep-30-10 06:50 AM
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58. i read it. he is beyond stupid. watched too much porn. |
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Edited on Thu Sep-30-10 06:56 AM by seabeyond
karynnj said it well. the issue i have that is bothering me with seeing it as a joke.
"Put his actions in perspective - had you read a "script" of what he thought would happen with the ACORN action, that likely would have been "funny" too - as it was pretty bizarre - but it ended up discrediting an organization later found to have been innocent. So, the memo is idiotic, but if the woman would have gone on the boat, she or her reputation could have been hurt completely unjustifiably. So, no he is not funny - and it stinks that he is a hero to the right."
and the lassez attitude of putting women on net for sexual exploitation with a shrug. meh, it happens
it is not a matter of thinking someone is laughing at the denigration of women.
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Thu Sep-30-10 07:48 AM
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59. Good points - he is scum... |
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but I couldn't help laughing at him when I read it
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Wed Sep-29-10 06:28 PM
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46. planning to drug a woman, sexually exploit her and put it on the internet is...funny? Because it |
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didn't happen? Seriously?
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Wed Sep-29-10 06:27 PM
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45. Yeah, that seabeyond has NO sense of humor about sexual exploitation |
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welcome to my buddy list, will be watching you
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Wed Sep-29-10 06:42 PM
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49. I don't think that is what he is saying, |
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O'Keefe has written the most unromantic, repulsive scenario. It is funny only in the sense that in his demented egotism, he thinks it will work. However, tt is sick and the reporter could possibly have been in danger.
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Wed Sep-29-10 06:52 PM
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50. if you feel the reporter could possibly have been in real danger, as i think she could have been |
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how does this end up as a joke, and people laughing instead of seeing that possibly this was set up as a rape.... if someone is so immoral as to film a person unknown, and put it on the internet against consent, then he is immoral enough to drug her. taking away consent, one way or another. exploiting her one way or another. raping, one way or another.
seeing it like that, how can it be funny
and once explained why women may not find it funny, .... explained a number of times yet refusing to acknowledge in the slightest this woman might be in danger, the man is beyond creep..... the poster continued to state it was comedy central material because after all, intent does not matter....
so it is a joke
when people, men, see this as a joke, it is a quiet message to all.
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Wed Sep-29-10 08:33 PM
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52. I agree with you it is most certainly NOT a joke |
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but - after all is over and she was not harmed in any way. Then, you can look at the plot as not just evil, which it was and atrocious, but ludicrous that he thought it would work.
I agree with you, but thought that the person saying that it was "funny" might have used the wrong word - meaning ludicrous or preposterous. (In addition to being heinious.) Not to mention, the reporter did not deserve this.
I do find his actions funny, and hope that this is a violation of his probation. He is a sick individual. He should be in jail.
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Wed Sep-29-10 09:32 PM
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i had recently read about the young man at college, that had sex filmed and put on internet, then killed himself.
i dont see this as little stuff. i dont want it to become a norm in society, but i think it is already there. i dont want to be so callous a people that we dont see the wrong in this.
i am now gonna talk to my boys about both this situation and the kid that killed himself. this is their generation they live in. and always, be aware of what is going on. recognize the real issue, instead of glossy over it to see the funny of it, normalizing it.
what okeefe did was ridiculously stupid, and i can see how people laugh, because he is so fuckin stupid. but i dont want to laugh. i want to be pissed.
thanks karynnj
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Wed Sep-29-10 10:38 PM
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54. You guys quite simply did not read it |
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Period.
Actually click on the link and read it. It's only 6 pages, not even. The guy set up a boat with porno magazines, posters of nude women, a jar full of condoms, dildos, lube, etc. He wrote dialog that he was planning to use to seduce her. It's hilarious.
I, frankly, laughed my ass off. Please note who it is I'm laughing at. I'm laughing at him. No her. Him.
You know, sometimes you have to loosen up and look at the lighter side of things. This pathetic loser typed out 13 pages of the most ridiculous nonsense I have ever read. It's funny.
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Wed Sep-29-10 10:46 PM
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I did think his plan was bizarre and ludicrous. I understand what you are saying - as that is what my comments were trying to explain - why the word "funny" was used - and why it didn't mean that it was funny that the CNN reporter could have been harmed in any way, but that he is an idiot.
Put his actions in perspective - had you read a "script" of what he thought would happen with the ACORN action, that likely would have been "funny" too - as it was pretty bizarre - but it ended up discrediting an organization later found to have been innocent. So, the memo is idiotic, but if the woman would have gone on the boat, she or her reputation could have been hurt completely unjustifiably. So, no he is not funny - and it stinks that he is a hero to the right.
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Wed Sep-29-10 04:16 PM
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3. And after all CNN has done to become Fox Lite |
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That's gratitude fer ya! Looks like CNN will have to re-double its efforts to become The Most Trusted Name in News Amenable to Right Wing Nincompoops.
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Wed Sep-29-10 04:19 PM
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4. This is creepier than I even imagined. |
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Wow. :wow: I wonder if he was going to try to slip her some rohypnol too.
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Wed Sep-29-10 05:07 PM
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21. he was going to try to slip her some rohypnol ... nt |
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Wed Sep-29-10 05:11 PM
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23. This is just horrifying. |
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Can you imagine how she feels? :puke:
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Wed Sep-29-10 06:21 PM
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44. Now you're just making shit up... |
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in your efforts to win the "I'm more outraged than everyone else" prize, you've descended into outright fiction.
Amazing.
Sid
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Wed Sep-29-10 06:33 PM
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47. i highlighted from that posters post... if it was possible.... and i think |
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it was possible, that was his intent. there was no other way to be able to do what his goal was. of course we dont know. of course we are allowed to ponder on intent for him to meet his goal.
but do tell me sid... how no man on du will find this humorous adn how you men, challenge the poster thinking this is all such a hoot.
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Wed Sep-29-10 04:21 PM
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more sleazy persona than normal" - at least they acknowledge that he has a sleazy persona!
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Wed Sep-29-10 04:22 PM
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6. I don't think it's possible |
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Wed Sep-29-10 04:24 PM
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7. I think it's perverted. What's wrong with these people? (rhetorical question) |
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The best thing that happened is it happened to CNN & they've not been shy about exposing this twerp.
Anything else O'Keefe will try to do in the future will be suspect to anyone & everyone. I'm sure even Fox won't touch this tainted piece of bullcrap anytime soon. :crazy:
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Wed Sep-29-10 04:25 PM
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If there's anything I've learned over the years, it's that Fox News has absolutely zero shame.
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Wed Sep-29-10 04:26 PM
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9. "Their own internal racism against whites" |
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O'Keefe and his ilk are some extremely disturbed, racially insecure people.
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Wed Sep-29-10 04:27 PM
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10. "Shoddy journalism and low journalistic standards"? |
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It's like: make up a lie and then try to prove it by throwing out rhetoric and more lies, then try to photograph the scam and heavily edit the tape and sell it to Fox (the apex of journalistic standards), get caught, blame a Democrat, get released and do something even more insane. I give it another 3 months and this asshole will go too far and end up in jail. Or worse.
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Wed Sep-29-10 05:08 PM
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22. they wanted to sexual humiliate a woman on put her on the net. nt |
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Wed Sep-29-10 04:29 PM
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11. Nice Orwellian name for his group: Project Veritas, LOL! |
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These people are even creepier than I thought. How sweet that they ended up punking themselves!
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Wed Sep-29-10 04:30 PM
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12. Sleazy and Incompetent |
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Wed Sep-29-10 04:32 PM
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13. More like project Veneritas... |
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Even if you take away the creepy sexual aspects of this story :shudder: the rest of it also creeps the hell out of me. Not that cnn is a bastion of reliability and great journalism, but O'Keefe's efforts to get fox "news" viewers to trust only what they see or hear on fox is creepy and down-right dangerous. Having a zombie population believing & behaving as the teabaggers do is how totalitarian regimes come to & keep power.
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Wed Sep-29-10 04:49 PM
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15. Do the words Caper and Spoof really give them cover? |
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How about -Setup- and -Attack-. Would officials take their "pranks" aka "activism" more seriously I wonder...?
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Wed Sep-29-10 05:18 PM
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26. Attempt to lure victim into closed situation where she would face sexually aggressive man |
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Yeah, that's not a "caper" or a "prank." these people are real creeps.
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Wed Sep-29-10 04:53 PM
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16. nobody will talk to this idiot again. who would? |
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Wed Sep-29-10 07:28 PM
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51. How much stupid shit has Sarah Palin said and done over the years... |
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Keeps fuckin' coming back like the goddamn Energizer bunny.
So will this fucktard.
Even after he has his John Stossel moment of being taped while having the shit (righteously but sadly still assault) kicked out of him...he will still come back. The "liberals" cannot keep him down.
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Wed Sep-29-10 04:57 PM
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17. This little shit is on parole (for his little stunt trying to bug senatorial |
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offices of Mary Landreiu. Wonder if that won't factor into whatever shit he can get into for this little caper?
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Wed Sep-29-10 04:58 PM
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18. What a sick, creepy fantasy |
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The imagined dialog and scenarios were actually frightening. This CNN reporter could have been in real danger out on that boat with these sickos.
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Wed Sep-29-10 04:58 PM
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19. Someone "spoofed" Dan Rather didn't they. Rather was on to a real, true story |
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about an AWOL president and someone slipped him a seemingly real document that turned out to be true, but not authentic. OKeefe? Breitbart? Fox? Rove? Whoever forged the Wilson uranium docs? All are capable.
It's undemocratic, disgusting, and it ought to be illegal to impune someone's reputation by fraud.
Isn't this what the RW media is all about? Creating a false reality?
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Wed Sep-29-10 05:45 PM
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32. This is what happens when you let a man-pig (Karl Rove) run the country for 8 years. |
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Expect it to get worse until someone finally goes to jail for a long time.
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Wed Sep-29-10 05:56 PM
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36. Could be the young woman involved in the original plan realized..... |
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that she herself was being used. How could any of these young Republican women be involved in anything with these ugly, horrid, demented creeps have they no respect for themselves? O'Keefe the most awkward, ugly little man who cannot even call on an inner beauty to make him look good to any woman.....puzzles me??? He makes a pimp look really good!
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Wed Sep-29-10 05:59 PM
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38. the only way an ugly ass rat faced creep like that could hope to accomplish what he set out to do |
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would be to drug the woman.
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Wed Sep-29-10 05:49 PM
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33. "Internal racism" against whites AND minorities? |
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I honestly didn't think I could be more grossed out by this story once I read the initial details.
Last paragraph:
She wants to do the interview, she spent thousands of dollars to do this interview, she is invested. Our job is to make sure she doesn't run away or break too soon. You want to make sure you have plenty of video and pre-reveal moments before the reveal, and not to proverbially "shoot your load" before the catalytic moment, the big reveal for her. So keep her hooked and use hot-cold and push-pull kind of psychological tactics in order to keep her in the skit.
:grr:
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