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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:09 PM
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Deadly force used against bacon, egg and cheese sandwich thief
PALM HARBOR — Last fall, authorities said, a Florida Highway Patrol trooper fired his gun nine times at a man suspected of stealing two bacon, egg and cheese sandwiches from a Palm Harbor gas station.

None of the bullets struck Magdi Kanaan, but Trooper Timothy E. Nichols will begin a one-week suspension without pay today.

"You deployed more force than necessary by shooting at a fleeing suspect," agency director John T. Czernis wrote in a Sept. 7 memo to Nichols.

The Oct. 10 shooting and subsequent car chase were captured on the trooper's dashboard camera. The Highway Patrol on Thursday released that footage and a narrative of the events that led to the shots being fired.

The 71/2-minute video opens with Nichols, a nine-year veteran of the department, driving at a high speed through a retirement center parking lot.

He'd just come from the Hess gas station on Nebraska Avenue, where a cashier reported that Kanaan had stolen sandwiches and fled.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/fhp-trooper-who-shot-nine-times-at-fleeing-suspect-is-suspended-for-a-week/1122083
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:11 PM
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1. Fuck!
Just fuck!
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:11 PM
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2. I wonder what kind of "penalty" a non-LEO would get for doing exactly the same thing
I'm thinking 1-2 years in prison.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:13 PM
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4. I'm thinking a non-cop
would have probably been able to hit the target so at least 5 to 10 years.

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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:20 PM
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8. Exactly. Jeez, I thought these guys had to set foot in
the range once in a while.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:22 PM
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32. Most police practice the minimum required by the department.
Not without reason--most police officers never have the need to discharge their weapon, so practicing marksmanship comes in far down the list of priorities compared to, say, catching up on paperwork. But it makes the situation more dangerous than it needs to be when they actually have to draw their weapon. Not that this is one of those times.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:32 PM
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13. LOL! You may be right about that.
But by the same token a properly trained non-cop would recognize the situation as "no shoot".
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:10 PM
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20. As a Florida concealed weapons permit holder ...
I would never think of shooting a running burger burglar.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:16 PM
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25. What if he looked like this?
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:46 PM
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28. He reminds me of someone trying to look like Zorro on Halloween ...
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:13 PM
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3. Steal billions and you might possibly get slapped on the wrist..
Steal a couple of bacon, egg and cheese sandwiches and you are attacked with deadly force.

A perfect commentary on just how whacked the justice system is in our country these days.

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:24 PM
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10. Indeed.
Spot on, that.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:28 PM
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12. Les Miserables came to mind
Hmm, wonder when the Revolution starts.
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:20 PM
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26. The French Revolution of LE MISERABLES was a failure. Not something
to emulate...
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:24 PM
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33. Or how wacked up some cops are. This dude had no
business being a cop if he thought it was appropriate to even pull out his gun for this, much less shoot the thing 9 times.

And notice I said SOME cops.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 09:42 AM
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38. This was a state trooper..
Hardly scraping the bottom of the barrel, cop wise.]


State troopers are close to if not an outright elite in uniformed law enforcement.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 10:00 AM
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40. Oh I know. My brother is one. Used to be a cop though.
Edited on Thu Sep-30-10 10:00 AM by Shell Beau
Graduated top of his class. I am proud of what he does. He risks his life daily, and I'll be damned if some assholes (the bad ones, not the people posting in this thread) change my opinion of him.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:17 PM
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5. "You deployed more force than necessary by shooting at a fleeing suspect,"
Well duh.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:51 PM
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30. How about speeding thru the retirement center parking lot?
THAT was not too bright either.

Was the cop named Barney?
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:18 PM
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6. Sad commentary on what is considered outrageous crime and the pursuit...
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:19 PM
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7. fucking coward
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:23 PM
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9. Run, Jean Valjean! nt
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:25 PM
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11. Bacon, Egg AND Cheese??
Does "three strikes" kick in with the cheese?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:33 PM
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14. It was probably "cheese food" or "cheese food product" rather than real cheese
Foul ball on a three-and-two pitch.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:34 PM
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15. Definitely it was the bacon

If it was just an egg & cheese, the force would be excessive.

But, there was bacon involved.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:43 PM
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16. that'll teach him not to keep kosher!
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:55 PM
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17. The moral of that is not to fuck with Florida troopers - it's getting
real tense out there.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:06 PM
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18. What? A full hour and no pig/bacon jokes?
Man, you guys are seriously slipping.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:10 PM
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21. See 15
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:32 PM
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27. Most of us have decided that calling a cop a pig is an insult to the piggies.


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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:09 PM
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19. Jesus.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:11 PM
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22. Yes. my son?
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:13 PM
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23. Les Miserables.
nuff said
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:15 PM
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24. A modern day Javert
Fortunately one who can't shoot straight.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:50 PM
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29. A week suspension?
He should have gotten fired over that. Discharging his weapon like that when there was no need is unprofessional and dangerous.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 06:50 PM
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31. He should've gone to fucking jail.
You know, like us normals would if we were to open fire in a public area without cause.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:26 PM
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34. Agreed. He should be gone. This is not the job for him.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 07:54 AM
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37. But he won't be. And that's why people hate cops. n/t
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 09:43 AM
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39. Well people shouldn't hate all cops. And people should
let it be known this guy should lose his job and face charges. I hope the person he shot at gets loud about it.
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:37 PM
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35. I'll be takin' these Huggies, plus whatever cash ya got
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 06:55 AM
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36. Hell, if he had stolen DOUGHNUTS, they yeah, I could see that.
But Egg McMuffins?

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