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AldebTX Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:53 PM
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If You Were Offered 2/3 of Your Current Salary
paid out as a monthly retirement, for the rest of your life, to retire now. Would you?

Its guaranteed money, placed in an account that can't be touched by your employer.

At what age would you consider this offer?
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:54 PM
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1. Hell yeah, but I'm only forty.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:54 PM
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2. Why does it matter?
It won't happen.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:18 PM
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32. Apparently it did happen. The rest of us can dream. n/t
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:54 PM
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3. Would it be adjusted for inflation?
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AldebTX Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:57 PM
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5. It has a COLA
at 2/3 of the Social Security COLA amount
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:26 PM
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37. 2/3 SS COLA
Edited on Wed Sep-29-10 05:27 PM by PoliticAverse
I feel the current COLA formula understates inflation as it really is so I wouldn't
be thrilled with the 2/3 COLA amount (especially with the high-risk that we will be
entering a period of high inflation).
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 09:15 PM
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59. You may not have heard... the COLA is "suspended" for at least TWO YEARS.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:56 PM
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4. If it came with health benefits until Medicare kicked in. n/t
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:58 PM
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6. What you just said!
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AldebTX Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:58 PM
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7. It Includes a Subsidized Health Benefit
Right now a monthly payment of $60. However,if you ever lapse its gone...you can't get it back.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:04 PM
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14. If it was the same benefit our company offers now,
I'd say "absolutely." And then I'd make damn sure not to let the health policy lapse.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:59 PM
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8. Why do I sense a amway-style sales pitch headin' this way?
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:04 PM
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13. LOL. n/t
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:00 PM
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9. When I have a paid up residence and access to health care...
Situation based...not age based.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:01 PM
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10. nope...for lots of reasons...
but the three biggies are currently aged 3,5 and 7...

sP
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AldebTX Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:08 PM
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19. Gotcha
My only dependent is the dog...he can lean on the partner...
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AldebTX Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:01 PM
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11. I Guess I Should Also Say
You get 2 months of termination pay

Plus all accumulated sick and vacation time.

Believe it or not I am actually being offered this at age 48...and sorely tempted. My partner is freaked I am considering giving up a job in a down economy.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:07 PM
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15. Here's something to ask your partner:
Edited on Wed Sep-29-10 05:10 PM by pnwmom
Where is the guarantee that, if you decide to keep working, your employer won't simply lay you off at some time before retirement? Wouldn't you then regret not taking this offer now?

I can see why you're tempted. Especially with the COLAand the health benefits.

And if you did manage to find another job in this down economy (or, in a few years, in a better economy), it would all be gravy.

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AldebTX Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:08 PM
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17. Thats the Way I see It
Altho...it sorta feels too soon to "retire"
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:11 PM
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21. Start your own business if there's something you're passionate about
Since you'll have a check regardless, the worries of making money in the business would be behind you. You don't have to retire.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:13 PM
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23. Did you read my post after the edit?
The part about not assuming that you will even be able to keep that job until retirement age? There's no guarantee that you won't be laid off in the future, even if you choose to stay on now.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:14 PM
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25. What about health care?
Edited on Wed Sep-29-10 05:26 PM by HuckleB
It doesn't seem like $60 month is much. What do you have in other retirement savings? What do you owe on your house?

If I owned my house outright, and had a legitimate, affordable health care plan, I might consider it at your age.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:17 PM
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30. See post 7 about health care. n/t
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:31 PM
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43. Frugal or spendthrift?

Are you the type of person that lives at the edge of their income or could you actually
live well (and put money into savings even) at 2/3 of your current salary ?
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:02 PM
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12. I did.
Almost broke my arm trying to get the hell out the door.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:07 PM
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16. I would take the offer
and I'm mid-50s.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:08 PM
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18. age 18
so, yes. Although 2/3 of my current income might be kinda tight since I am already partially retired.
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AldebTX Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:10 PM
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20. My Fear Is I am Missing Something.
Something that I haven't thought of that I will be kicking myself for.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:14 PM
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24. If you have it in writing, take it to a lawyer for a look-see
If the offer is not in writing, ask for it, then see a labor lawyer for advice.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:15 PM
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+1
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:15 PM
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27. Great idea. Well worth the price of a lawyer visit. n/t
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littlewolf Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 09:09 PM
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58. +1
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:12 PM
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22. What about inflation?
:shrug:
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:15 PM
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26. S/he addressed that.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:16 PM
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29. Yeah, I saw that after I responded.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:16 PM
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28. right now, in an instant....
2/3's of my current salary is way better than I'm expecting to see in my retirement
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:17 PM
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31. I'm 52 and I'd seriously consider retiring immediately
I have a friend who works for a local government, who is planning on doing something similar when she reaches 58.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:20 PM
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34. I wish my husband would, but it's those health benefits.
When they're good, they almost lock you into a job.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:18 PM
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33. check the rating of the insurance company thats providing the
annuity.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:20 PM
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35. Excellent point. n/t
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:23 PM
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36. About the guarantee...
There are guarantees, and there are "guarantees" (i.e. subject to loss due to someone going bankrupt).


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AldebTX Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:30 PM
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40. Its A State of Texas Municipal Employee Retirement System
Edited on Wed Sep-29-10 05:30 PM by AldebTX
Not too likely to go bankrupt. It also by law can not be raided for funds. It is completely independent from the State. The funds in the account are deposited over an employee's employment by a deduction to his/her pay and a matching amount from the City. Similar to Social Security. I have been paying in 26 years.

The downside...if the employee dies before his expected death date...only the employee's funds go to the estate. The City's share stays with the retirement system to pay out benefits.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:27 PM
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38. Well, no.... only because I am on UE
But if it were before I lost my job to the recession, I think I'd be happy with it
Only if I could also do some work on the side.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:27 PM
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39. You Can Find Me On The Golf Course
I'd be out of there so fast, i would redshift.
GAC
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:30 PM
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41. 2/3 of nothing is nothing..
I'm of the age where I never expect to work for anyone else again..
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:30 PM
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42. What's a SALARY?
Please define for some that are paid by the hour!
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blaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:36 PM
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44. I absolutely would!
Edited on Wed Sep-29-10 06:13 PM by blaze
I'm 56 and have to work eight more years to retire at 50% of my current salary. And I'll have to pay out quite a bit more for health insurance.

I agree with the poster above who suggested having a lawyer review the offer.

And about feeling too young to retire... you just need to rename this next chapter in your life...
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:38 PM
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45. This ain't France...get back to work you pawns !!!!!!
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:44 PM
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46. oh, yes!
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:48 PM
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47. No
couldn't afford it right now, daughter is in college. See me in two or three years...
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 05:50 PM
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48. Yes.
Show me the paperwork. I'm ready.
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 06:08 PM
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49. What guarantee do you have they won't renege on the payments in the future?
Companies are going to court to get out of paying pensions and they are winning.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 06:23 PM
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50. Yes. Right now.
52.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 06:24 PM
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51. Hell yea! Free money.
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AC_Mem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 07:52 PM
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52. I'm 52
And Yes, I would take it if I had healthcare, gotta have that. I have a home business that I would then be able to build.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 07:56 PM
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53. Nope.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 07:57 PM
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54. Absolutely. Without hesitation. n/t
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 07:57 PM
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55. IF I work till I'm 70


That is about what my pension would be. Since my job currently is tough labor, I don't think that will happen. I'm 53. IF I qualified for a disability tomorrow, I'd get about the same amount.

I think I just figured out why they want to reduce the disability number. I'm against that BTW.

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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:49 PM
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56. Sweet, can I take it now? NT
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:51 PM
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57. I'd probably take it now.
as long as there were no strings attached. i.e. if I could go back as a consultant part time, as many 'retired' people do in my line of work. :)
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