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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 11:46 AM
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Will there be a tipping point when all the Bush Scandals come tumbling out into public view?
Usually when enough conspirators are charged and enter into deals with prosecutors to cooperate for lighter sentences, everyone remaining caves under the weight of the wrongdoing exposed by the cooperators.

It can happen quickly and without warning.

Will that happen with the Bush Administration?

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 11:50 AM
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1. I doubt it
How much more does the public need to hear to understand that these people are criminals?

Why hasn't Gonzo stepped down yet?

What took Wolfowitz so long to resign?

Why are the American people tolerating a vice president with a 9% approval rating?

Why aren't people in the streets yelling for justice?

How the hell can 25% of the American public still support el pretzeldente?



They have never played by the rules and I don't expect them to start now. They are operating by a whole different set of standards.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:13 AM
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23. YEP ...
The country is just not going to see it through ... Far too many people are too comfortable in their lives and the press has been coopted enough to AT WORST mute the facts, most often distort the facts with "balance" ... The country just does not care enough to hold these cretins responsible ...

10-20 "scandals" ago they should have been delt with ... I mean, the Valerie Plame situation ... ALL off the jagoffs signed non-disclosure agreements, we now know ALL of them leaked her identity and as such should have been IMMEDIATELY removed from their positions ... It is clear cut, simple and non debatable ...

If media glossed that over, if the country is not up in arms over their scumbags outing a gall darn CIA agent, and again, with CLEAR and UNDEBATABLE work documents that necessiate their losing their jobs for it ...

All each scandal does now is just further numb the masses to what all they have done ... 25% will FOREVER stick behind this president and excuse every last bit of it ... 75% know they are a major disaster ... But, again, with people too comfortable and the press bought and sold, people are just tuning it out ...
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 11:50 AM
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2. I believe so, yes--there's been a steady erosion of loyalty and support--
the coalition is breaking up because no one wants to go down in history as a "bad guy". So they are turning on each other, and I believe it will reach critical mass, and something or somebody will bring down the house of cards all of a sudden.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:39 PM
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7. I think the house of cards has already fallen and BushCo knows it
At this point they're just ignoring the carnage, much like Katrina. It's really their only move.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:03 AM
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20. Except that's the point we were at in early 1993, too, and what happened?
.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 11:50 AM
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3. Yes- when Gonzalez is removed.
And that's why they're so determined to keep their little Dutch boy at the DoJ, with his finger in the dyke. They'll never be able to get another Bush loyalist on the level of Alberto Gonzalez approved by the Senate, and the Bush Administration knows that they need a person in that spot who will put their interests above not only the rule of law, but the interests of the GOP.

That's why he will never resign- ever. No matter how politically nightmarish his continued presence is to the Republican Party. He's Bush's liuetenant and he's there to protect Bush.

Impeach Gonzalez, and you'll see alot of stuff come out.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:35 PM
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8. Great post. How true.
:toast: MKJ
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:43 PM
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10. That's why I predict he will resign before he is impeached
I give him no more than another week.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 10:11 AM
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15. I see Gonzales As More A Firebreak, And His Leaving Will Focus Attention on Those Behind Him
Imagine for a moment who will fall under the most intense scrutiny if Gonzales leaves the stage.

It has to focus on the White House and its Officials - Rove/Cheney/Card/Addington and BUSH.

Right now Gonzales is the firebreak, burning brightly to keep the attention off those most responsible for the execution of the corrupt plans being implemented as we speak.

I think Gonzales stepping down will be important, but it certainly won't be the 'tipping point.'

We still need the 'John Dean' of this scandal to step forward with secreted knowledge of where the most damning evidence may be found.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 11:51 AM
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4. we can only hope
we need desperately to bring this entire criminal enterprise down.

It's like David Koresh and the Branch Davidian religious sect in Waco - except it's the White House
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:00 PM
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5. Bushco is owned and operated by thugs
and enabled by our corporatist Congress. Though I would love to see the entire criminal enterprise impeached, convicted and imprisoned for a very long time, I'm seriously beginning to doubt there will be any accountability at all.

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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:11 AM
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21. I too doubt we'll see any tipping point
BushCo owns the media, and the media influences public opinion.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:11 PM
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6. If the picture of Ashcroft's wife
crying into the phone sobbing that the Bush gang were coming to terrify and bully her almost comatose husband doesn't get the Bush gang perp-walked out of the WH, I believe nothing will.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:51 PM
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12. She'll just get the Martha Mitchell Award.
:evilgrin:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:02 AM
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19. Bingo!
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irish.lambchop Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:40 PM
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9. As I've told anyone who will listen -
bush will come stumbing out into the Rose Garden one day, bottle of Jack in hand, screaming at the press, "You wanna piece o' me?!" - he'll piss his pants and fall face-first on the ground. After that, everyone else will just scurry out of town. We'll just have to track 'em down!
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 06:12 PM
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13. It's gratifying and scary to watch Bush decompensate. It's more and more evident with every
Edited on Sat May-19-07 06:13 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
public appearance.

Clinton, Kennedy and, hell, even Reagan could bring people to their message.

All Bush can do is whine, complain and appeal only to the segment of American citizens who have everything in the world one could want or need and then complain bitterly that everyone is against them and they're victims of "fill in the blank" liberal agenda.

Instead of the Moral Majority, Bush supporters are the Bullshit Believers. MKJ
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:47 PM
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11. It may take being caught
in flagrante delicto.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 08:51 PM
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14. Exhibit A - 9 US Attorneys and counting cooperating with Congress...
Look at who has resigned from this Administration and who has written books.

The fire is ever closer to the movers and shakers.

Gonzales is unlikely to turn on Bush. However, top Administration officials caught engaged in clearly illegal conduct could sink them all.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 10:26 AM
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16. What happened the LAST TIME Dems were so close to exposing BushInc once and for all?
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 11:24 AM
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17. That is a timely post ... hope things will be different this time...n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 05:07 PM
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18. Yep, and why I care so much that an anti-corruption, open government Dem
gets the power of the White House - for a change.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:11 AM
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22. Not with THIS media...
Just this morning, NPR reported that the Dems were investigating Gonzales because they suspect the USAs were fired for political reasons.

No mention of White House desire to have pure Bush flunkies in USA spots;
No mention of White House wanting bogus investigations of Dems by USAs just prior to elections;
No mention of Rove wanting his toadie installed as USA;
No mention of election fraud or the medicare fraud scandals;
No mention of suppressing investigations into GOPers scandals.

Just "fired for political reasons"
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