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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:38 PM
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DU : A Bastion of Censorship. HUH ?
Having open forums can be really great. I have enjoyed several of them over the past 10+ years, w/ DU being my favorite since it's inception. I have personally met and have enjoyed the company of many of the people on this board. I have also argued with and eventually ignored some people who seem to want to go beyond disagreeing and be disagreeable.
I've seen many folks get banned ( tombstoned ) some were friends that many of us appealed to the admin to let them back. Some I cheered when they were gone. Some people started their own boards and invited old friends to join them there, others simply found other places to post. But the following, takes the cake for gall and apparent stupidity.

This woman gets banned here ( DU) and goes over to KOS to complain and bash DU.

Check it out:

Since I am a social progressive, I supported democratic candidates most of my life. That all changed after joining democraticunderground (aka, DU) - a political web forum. Before joining DU, I believed that democrats were more open minded than republicans, but I quickly learned they're NOT. Both use similar fascist tactics to silence free speech.


it gets waay better

The rank and file at democraticunderground showed more allegiance towards foreign nationals living here illegally than they did towards the life, liberty and happiness of their own countrymen. They seemed to be living on the other side of the looking glass when it came to this issue, which will soon eliminate our national soveriengty and effectively gives birth to the North American Union. Anyone who demonstrates allegiance to the USA on democraticunderground by supporting these stances is accused of being a Tancredo supporter or a "repuke". I didn’t know who Tom Tancredo was before joining democraticunderground, but I do now and I respect his support for his fellow countrymen living along the dangerous US/Mexico border.


You can read my own reply about mid thread, and many others who recognized what this persons problem was, as well. See what you think....

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/18/204546/357
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:42 PM
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1. So, this person's entire view of theDemocrats is based on her experience on DU?
I loved the thread's replies, BTW.

Damn, that was a freaking long winded whine. MKJ
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:44 PM
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2. Stuff like this has happened before.
There are also those, at DKos, who sniff disdainfully at DU, with regularity. BFD.

Sounds like what it was: someone went over a line, got some pizza on them and is now gonna slag us, wherever she or he can.

Not every "liberal" is your friend.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:54 PM
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3. Meh. SOS - different day.
Edited on Sat May-19-07 12:54 PM by Lone_Star_Dem
My thoughts are that this was a poster that came here knowing what buttons to push to get threads locked and raise a reaction. Then they feigned outrage over their treads being locked and the reactions their words created.

This is some kind of a sport for some of the repeatedly banned and their groupies. It's really not new, nor is it a big deal.

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Lobster Martini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:55 PM
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4. May I be the first to apologize for my fascist tactics to silence free speech?
All I ask is that if you disagree with me, keep your cookie hole shut--oh, wait, I meant to say that I encourage intelligent discourse and free exchange of ideas--no, just keep your cookie hole shut if you disagree. Damn, I do use fascist tactics to silence free speech!
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 12:55 PM
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5. Locking ......I'm alerting the web master Senator Ted Stevens now!!!!
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:04 PM
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6. Gee Whiz
She managed to bash Mexicans and gays and DU and....all in one rant-y post. I am glad most of the comments pretty much defended us and told her to shut up.
Lee
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:06 PM
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7. The whiner knew what the real problem was.
They didn't send Skinner money fast enough!
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:08 PM
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8. Tancredo?
:rofl:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:10 PM
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12. Yeah, a Tancredo fan is a real leftie.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:09 PM
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9. Sounds like a good call on the parts of the mods.
Including the other crap she posted, I was surprised she didn't blame her banning on not being able to discuss Israel (a theme here at DU), but then, I saw it...

Another taboo subject on democraticunderground was Israel and its undue influence over US domestic and foreign policy. While many posters were given free reign to attack Christians values and its impact on our political process, moderators routinely locked any threads critical of Israel and the role neocons played in getting the US into the Iraq war. Threads that dared discuss the influence of the AIPAC lobby on American policies were also locked by mods. The anti Christian bias among the partisans pitbull posters of democraticunderground was as undeniable as the forum’s blind support for Israel.


Interestingly enough, it appears that was not the ORIGINAL version; rather, it was this:

Another taboo subject on democraticunderground was Israel and its undue influence over US domestic and foreign policy. While many posters were given free reign to attack Christians values and its impact on our political process, moderators routinely locked any threads critical of Israel and the role judeocons played in getting the US into the Iraq war. Threads that dared discuss the influence of the AIPAC lobby on American policies were also locked by mods. The anti Christian bias among the partisans pitbull posters of democraticunderground was as undeniable as the forum’s blind support for Israel.


As another poster said, "meh." SOS!

:applause: to the Mods for taking out the trash!
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:10 PM
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10. Sounds like sour grapes to me.
BTW, where do we keep those partisan pitbull posters?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:10 PM
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11. The person was a troll to start with on a suicide mission
First here, next KOS...who knows where they will land next. They hit all the talking points.
FWIW, there is a "certain" unnamed website that call Skinner-"Skimmer".
That would be my guess as to where this poster oozed from.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 07:56 PM
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 02:34 AM
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27. And who is to say he hasn't ALREADY got me
and I am one of THEM?
hahahahahhahahahahahaheehehehehehehehehehhohohohohohoho
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:18 PM
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13. ROFL
lots of great replies. I like this one:

"I'll help...
I wrote long-winded, bat-shit crazy posts trying to piss people off. I was successful so they banned me. Now I've come here to see how fast I can get banned by pulling the same crap here. Thanks for playing everyone."


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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:38 PM
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16. That was among the best..
:rofl:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:28 PM
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14. It sounds similar to the setups we've seen in the past - remember the one who
claimed to be a Dean supporter and said she'd vote for Bush if Dean didn't get the nomination because of gun control?

heheh - yeah - she became easy to spot.

This one sounds similar.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:37 PM
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15. May be the same troll...
:hi:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 01:39 PM
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17. If she's a Democrat, she's an odd one.
Edited on Sat May-19-07 01:39 PM by Buzz Clik
As for censorship and banning at DU, well, yeah can get right in the grill of the most respected, powerful posters at DU and, unless you violate forum rules of conduct, you're safe.

Her problem is way different than that:

I didn’t know who Tom Tancredo was before joining democraticunderground, but I do now and I respect his support for his fellow countrymen living along the dangerous US/Mexico border.


LOL! My dear old mom is a die-hard Republican from way back, and she hates Tancredo with every fiber of her being.

... when I posted pictures of Nicole Kidman’s wedding to Keith Urban ...

Uh. I see. Your problem, honey, is that you're a fucking idiot.

Don't come back.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 02:11 PM
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18. The verbosity is astonishing
but the comments restore my faith in the left's netroots.

I vaguely recall that particular poster on a different subject, the gist of which was reprehensible but buried in such a barrage of circumlocution that I imagine it escaped quite a few people. I vaguely recall my reply was tart, pithy and rude.

The crack about the OP going to "Little green footballs" was spot on.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 04:41 PM
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19. LOL, I notice the poster was SO disgusted with DU that....
they re-joined THREE times, using different user names, after the first banning so I guess she is disgusted X four!


:rofl:

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 06:46 PM
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20. What was this person's username on DU?
I don't remember seeing any of the discussions he (she?) talked about on Dailykos.

The reception over there to the DU-bashing on balance wasn't very friendly, I was glad to see.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 07:40 PM
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21. I never got a team of trolls assigned to me. Am I a "partisan pitbull poster"?
"I was viciously flamed by partisan posters, who piled on with teams of trolls to disrupt my thread and shut it down."
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 02:40 AM
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28. I thought we were assigned to the same troll team?
:shrug:
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 07:55 PM
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22. And this genius will most likely get banned from DKos before long...
...for spouting right-wing conspiracy theories.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 08:06 PM
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24. Any Idea What Her Name Here Was? I'd Like To Say Go Fuck Yourself And See Ya To The Right Moniker.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 08:11 PM
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25. Look at this bit of doubletalk:
'Although as a progressive, I support equal rights and freedoms for gay men and women, I am straight and continue to respect traditional lifestyles.'
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 09:11 PM
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26. For all you other "partisan pitbull posters," "spirited jerks," and "nitwits"...
...who can't choke through the whole slop-heap:

She hates Mexicans because of the "ethnic cleansing of African Americans from LA by latino gangs of foreign naitonals living in our country illegally," thinks the Minutemen aren't so bad, believes Nicole Kidman's wedding is an "institutional event" on equal par with LGBT pride parades, "celebrates" marriage for everyone except gay people, thinks Christians are persecuted, compares DUers who disagree with her to Abu Ghraib torturers, thinks Tom Tancredo is a real swell guy because of the Mexican "narco-terroritst" threat, thinks Bev Harris is a real swell gal because she didn't ask her for money, does not understand the "Democratic" in "Democratic Underground," yet believes Democratic Underground is an official representative of the Democratic Party, believes that you can still call yourself a "progressive" while holding "conservative stances," and can't understand why she kept getting banned from DU after re-registering under only four different accounts. Oh, and she's a lousy speller.

Did I miss anything?

Oh, yeah, and "Thanks to Skinner and his cronies at democraticunderground, future democratic candidates will have to prove their sincerity" to her ("beyond a shadow of a doubt," mind you) or she's "NOT voting for them" again. So there! (Did I just hear the stomp of a tiny patent-leather-clad foot on the floor? Or was that fallout from a big, poopy diaper?)

Yo, Skinner! Think you handle all that over the weekend? Maybe if you promise to broker peace in the Middle East by Tuesday, and show her how to lose weight and make a million dollars while she sleeps, you can convince her to return. We sure can't afford to lose somebody that special from the Big Tent! :rofl:

Love,

One of the ntoleratant, assinine hypocrits in the politcal soveriengty of democraticunerground naitonals
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 02:43 AM
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29. Strange sort of ' social progressive'!
Either she is a right-wing troll bent on causing trouble, or she thinks that being a liberal is ONLY a matter of opposing the war, and that it doesn't involve social and civil rights issues. She seems to be bigoted against immigrants, Jews, gays, and generally to wish to assert her 'Christian' identity against the Others.

Good riddance from this board.
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:35 AM
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30. Just ... wow!
Kind of a drama queen?


"In fact the troops that tortured prisoners in Abu Gharib got nothing on the vicious troll tag teams of democraticunderground, who would easily fit in and no doubt enjoy torturing enemy combatants at Gitmo all day long."


Okay - who waterboarded this fool?



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DoctorStrangelove Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 04:14 PM
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31. Has anyone been banned from other sites?
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