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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 10:42 AM
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Activist berates White House, Clinton for honoring ‘war criminal’ Kissinger
Source: RawStory

Activist berates White House, Clinton for honoring ‘war criminal’ Kissinger
By Muriel Kane
Thursday, September 30th, 2010 -- 10:11 am

It's been more than forty years since Henry Kissinger was giving advice to Richard Nixon on the illegal bombing of Cambodia, but the 87 year old former National Security Advisor and Secretary of State remains a controversial figure.

The announcement earlier this week that Kissinger would be keynoting a Department of State conference on "The American Experience in Southeast Asia, 1946-1975" quickly sparked a furious response from longtime anti-war activist Fred Branfman.

"Nothing more symbolizes how the temptations of power can corrupt youthful values and idealism than Secretary Hillary Clinton's invitation to Henry Kissinger and Richard Holbrooke to keynote a major State Department conference on the history of the Indochina war," Branfman wrote on Tuesday, in an article titled "Hillary Clinton and State Dept. to Celebrate War Criminal Henry Kissinger, While the White House Repeats His Deadly Mistakes."

"As an idealistic college student, Clinton protested Kissinger's mass murder of civilians in Indochina," Branfman continues. "But on Sept. 29 she will introduce Kissinger at the State Department Historian's conference, giving him a platform to continue 40 years of Orwellian deception in which he has sought to blame Congress for the fall of Indochina rather than accepting responsibility for his massive miscalculations and indifference to human suffering."


Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/09/activist-berates-white-house-kissinger/
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 10:45 AM
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1. Wth?! Thank goodness Pinochet is dead.
Edited on Thu Sep-30-10 10:45 AM by EFerrari
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 10:56 AM
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2. no principles
all bought and sold.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 11:01 AM
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3. K&R
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 11:06 AM
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4. They're not giving him an award
He's giving (slow, heavily-accented) talks on the American experience in Southeast Asia in that period, something he's uniquely qualified to do.

His books on diplomacy are fascinating, and I don't see why he shouldn't give a talk
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 11:20 AM
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9. His Polices in indo china also makes him a war criminal
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 11:43 AM
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14. Yes. And? NT
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 11:57 AM
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15. Hitler wrote some books too
maybe his spirit is welcome there too as are all War Criminals

Disgusting.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:37 PM
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26. If it was a roundtable on European foreign relations in the 1930s
then I would love to hear what Hitler had to say.
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:07 PM
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18. TRIED to read you link
Can they do something about the background color?

Seriously.

wow
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:12 PM
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21. PDF link here
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 11:11 AM
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5. The professionals must deal with people like Kissinger. He was
influential in nuclear weapons policy long before he served under Nixon, he seems to have been quite good at crafting ruling class consensus on foreign policy, and his realpolitik views are admired in certain circles

I consider him thoroughly amoral and utterly indifferent to human suffering. But the professionals cannot ignore what he says, although one naturally hopes they will take it with a great shaker of salt
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 11:17 AM
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7. Pish-tush. Nobody, least of all a proven liar, is indispensable. Next up: Cheney?
Edited on Thu Sep-30-10 11:18 AM by WinkyDink
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 11:32 AM
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11. I agree he's a liar, and I didn't say he was "indispensable." I said that his POV
is widespread enough, and that he has been influential enough, that professionals ought to be exposed to him and his ideas

Do I think Henry belongs in jail? Well, yes, I do. If you can figure out how we can put him there, I'll be delighted

But just closing our eyes and pretending he and his ilk don't exist is a recipe for failure: there are plenty of people like him around, in DC and abroad.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 11:16 AM
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6. HE SHOULD BE ALREADY DEAD, from the gallows, as other war criminals.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 11:18 AM
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8. "The illegal we can do right now; " Henry Kissinger
"The illegal we can do right now; the unconstitutional will take a little longer."
Henry Kissinger



"It is firm and continuing policy that Allende be overthrown by a coup.... We are to continue to generate maximum pressure toward this end utilizing every appropriate resource. It is imperative that these actions be implemented clandestinely and securely so that the USG and American hands be well hidden."

October 1970 cable to CIA operatives in Chile from Henry Kissinger's "Track Two" group

from the book

The Case Against Henry Kissinger
Crimes against humanity

by Christopher Hitchens

Harpers magazine, March 2001



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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 11:23 AM
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10. Disgusting.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 11:40 AM
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12. Uh...
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 11:42 AM
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13. K&R
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:00 PM
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16. "...his massive miscalculations and indifference to human suffering." No wonder he's invited.
Edited on Thu Sep-30-10 12:00 PM by Karmadillo
Birds of a feather...
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:05 PM
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17. I'd like to hear them explain this one. n/t
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 02:42 PM
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28. Isn't it obvious? Obama wanted to compare Peace Prizes.
:banghead:
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 02:56 PM
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29. Maybe Henry has some tips on maintaining its luster? n/t
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:09 PM
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19. .
:puke:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:12 PM
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20. Seems apropos. Considering what Hillary's sponsoring in Afghgainstan. Hawks of a feather..
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:16 PM
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22. K&R from a 2000 Nader voter n/t
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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:19 PM
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23. Re. Pul. Sive.
What the fuck is the State Dept. going to get from Kissinger, pointers?

:puke:
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:28 PM
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24. This is a side of politics and politicians we should never forget
Compromise and expediency are laws to politicians. It's how their brains are wired. They live, breath, eat and drink this.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:34 PM
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25. "Furious" response?
How about "righteously wrathful"? Henry Kissinger's world should be confined to an 8x8 cell, with 23 hours each day spent contemplating photos of the victims of his crimes.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 01:50 PM
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27. you guys just don't know politics works
:sarcasm:
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cory777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 03:21 PM
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30. K&R
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 09:21 PM
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31. His Nick Name..THE BUTCHER OF CAMBODIA!.. Kissinger is a war criminal
Edited on Thu Sep-30-10 09:31 PM by flyarm
and he has ties to the Obama Administration!

Kissinger is one of the king pins in the shadow government!

If anyone has more than a 2 minute sound bite memory..

GW Bush Named Kissinger to head up the 9/11 commission.

The ager and screams of the 9/11 families was ignored for over 1 year, until he was finally removed because he would not disclose his finanical businesses with Saudi Arabia, and the Royal Family of Saudi Arabia, and he would not reveal his clients in Saudi, which many families of 9/11 believed he worked for the Bin Laden Family!

That pig Kissinger should be in the hague..and should be spat upon by any and every American!

But one of the first things Obama did upon taking office..he sent Kissinger to Russia to represent his administration in Talks with Russia. Shortly after Obama took office.

Geithner was a Kissinger Protoge.

Do some research , I have posted it here often of the Obama/Kissinger ties.

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Kissinger, Baker Visit Moscow as Obama Resets Ties (Update2)
By Lucian Kim - March 18, 2009 12:53


March 18 (Bloomberg) -- Henry Kissinger and James Baker, two former U.S. secretaries of state, will fly to Moscow for talks with Russian officials after President Barack Obama pledged to “reset” relations with Russia.


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aMiQ11h183F4&refer=us

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Cold warrior Henry Kissinger woos Russia for Barack Obama
Henry Kissinger, the pioneer of Cold War detente during the Nixon era, has made a return to frontline politics after President Barack Obama reportedly sent him to Moscow to win backing from Vladimir Putin's government for a nuclear disarmament initiative.

By Adrian Blomfield, Moscow Correspondent
Published: 11:45PM GMT 05 Feb 2009



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/4530042/Cold-warrior-Henry-Kissinger-woos-Russia-for-Barack-Obama.html

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Shortly after taking office and even before ..as President Elect..Obama asked Henry Kissinger..knick name.."The Butcher of Cambodia"..to represent his administration in Talks with Russia..lets look as some serious connections here of Geithner , Kissinger and Obama...shall we..( edit to add: much of this i have posted many times in the past.)

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Cold warrior Henry Kissinger woos Russia for Barack Obama

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/4530042/Cold-warrior-Henry-Kissinger-woos-Russia-for-Barack-Obama.html

Mr Obama apparently chose Mr Kissinger for his consummate diplomatic skills and his popularity in Moscow, an affection earned by his open acknowledgment of Russia's international resurgence.
Despite his pariah status with many Left-wingers in Mr Obama's Democratic Party, the president forged relations with Mr Kissinger during his campaign.


The compliment was returned when the 85-year-old veteran of the Nixon and Ford administrations said last month that the young president was in a position to create a "new world order" by shifting US foreign policy away from the hostile stance of the Bush administration.

He publicly supported Mr Obama's notion of unconditional talks with Iran, though not at the presidential level.

Further demonstrating his willingness to work with his opponents on foreign policy issues, Mr Obama turned to two veteran Republicans steeped in Cold War experience to press home his plans.

Shortly after Mr Kissinger's trip, Richard Lugar, a Republican senator from Indiana who has worked on nuclear disarmament issues for 30 years, also visited Moscow. George Schultz, another former secretary of state, has also played a vital role.

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TIMOTHY GEITHNER

Biography

Early life and education
Geithner was born in Brooklyn, New York.<2> He spent most of his childhood living outside the United States, including present-day Zimbabwe, Zambia, India and Thailand, where he completed high school at International School Bangkok.<3> He then attended Dartmouth College, graduating with a B.A. in government and Asian studies in 1983.<4> He earned an M.A. in international economics and East Asian studies from Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies in 1985.<4><5> He has studied Chinese<4> and Japanese.<6>

Geithner's paternal grandfather, Paul Herman Geithner (1902–1972), emigrated with his parents from the German town of Zeulenroda to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in 1908.<7> His father, Peter F. Geithner, is the director of the Asia program at the Ford Foundation in New York.

During the early 1980s, Peter Geithner oversaw the Ford Foundation's microfinance programs in Indonesia being developed by S. Ann Dunham-Soetoro, President Barack Obama's mother, and they met in person at least once.<8>

Timothy Geithner's mother, Deborah Moore Geithner, is a pianist and piano teacher in Larchmont, New York where his parents currently reside. Geithner's maternal grandfather, Charles F. Moore, was an adviser to President Dwight D. Eisenhower and served as a vice president of Ford Motor Company.

Early career

After completing his studies,

Geithner worked for Kissinger and Associates in Washington, D.C., for three years and then joined the International Affairs division of the U.S. Treasury Department in 1988.

He went on to serve as an attaché at the US Embassy in Tokyo. He was deputy assistant secretary for international monetary and financial policy (1995–1996), senior deputy assistant secretary for international affairs (1996-1997), assistant secretary for international affairs (1997–1998).<5>

He was Under Secretary of the Treasury for International Affairs (1998–2001) under Treasury Secretaries Robert Rubin and Lawrence Summers.<5> Summers was his mentor,<10><11> but other sources call him a Rubin protégé.<11><12><13>



In 2002 he left the Treasury to join the Council on Foreign Relations as a Senior Fellow in the International Economics department.<14> He was director of the Policy Development and Review Department (2001-2003) at the International Monetary Fund.<5>


In October 2003, he was named president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.<15> His salary in 2007 was $398,200.<16> Once at the New York Fed, he became Vice Chairman of the Federal Open Market Committee component. In 2006, he also became a member of the Washington-based financial advisory body, the Group of Thirty.<17>


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Timmy's dad :


Peter F. Geithner, is the director of the Asia program at the Ford Foundation in New York. During the early 1980s,

Peter Geithner oversaw the Ford Foundation's microfinance programs in Indonesia being developed by

S. Ann Dunham-Soetoro,

President Barack Obama's mother, and they met in person at least once



Geithner's maternal grandfather, Charles F. Moore, was an adviser to President Dwight D. Eisenhower and served as a vice president of Ford Motor Company.

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now this should alarm every true democrat on these boards!!!!!!!


and From an April post of mine here at DU: and please, don't believe me ...click the link..it was in the CFR publication!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Remarks by National Security Adviser Jones at 45th Munich Conference on Security Policy

Published February 8, 2009




Speaker: James L. Jones


U.S. National Security Adviser Jones ( edit to add: new advisor hired by Obama!!!!) gave these remarks at the 45th Munich Conference on Security Policy at the Hotel Bayerischer Hof on

February 8, 2009.





"Thank you for that wonderful tribute to Henry Kissinger yesterday. Congratulations. As the most recent National Security Advisor of the United States, I take my daily orders from Dr. Kissinger, filtered down through General Brent Scowcroft and Sandy Berger, who is also here. We have a chain of command in the National Security Council that exists today.




Source: http://www.cfr.org/publication/18515/remar ... ...
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marasinghe Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 09:30 PM
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32. halloween's early this year
fucking flesh-eating sociopathic parasite getting dusted off & paraded in public, for the usual reasons, by the usual culprits.
i guess our current crop of war mongers can look marginally better in comparison.
what's henry keynoting at the state dept. conference? how to win friends & influence people with the daisy-cutter dance?
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marasinghe Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 09:30 PM
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33. halloween's early this year
fucking flesh-eating sociopathic parasite getting dusted off & paraded in public, for the usual reasons, by the usual culprits.
i guess our current crop of war mongers can look marginally better in comparison.
what's henry keynoting at the state dept. conference? how to win friends & influence people with the daisy-cutter dance?
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 09:34 PM
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34. terrible. shameful. n/t
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 09:43 PM
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35. The only good reason to invite Kissinger anywhere would be to drive a wooden stake into his chest.
I won't say "heart" because I'm quite sure he doesn't have one.

If we lived in a decent world, war criminals like Kissinger would, at the very LEAST, be shunned and his name only uttered with contempt if uttered at all.

I supported Obama in large part because I was dead set against Clinton getting anywhere near the White House. Fat lot of good that did. Honduras proved that she is nothing but another neocon.

:grr:
sw

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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 09:57 PM
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36. see my post above #31..and Obama's connections to Kissinger.
Edited on Thu Sep-30-10 09:57 PM by flyarm
Hillary works for Obama, remember that!
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 05:50 AM
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37. just one more reason why bush/cheney must be prosecuted....
....but never will be. the ruling circles always circle their wagons to protect one another.
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