"Jumping off the gw bridge sorry."

[Contrary1]

:cry: I'm sorry too, Tyler. I'm sorry that there are so many ignorant bigots in this world. I'm sorry that a couple assholes thought it would be funny to humiliate you publicly.

I'm sorry that you felt there was no other way out.

I'm sorry that your parents will grow old wondering what might have been.

You didn't deserve any of this.

I'm sorry.

Outrage on campus over student's suicide after sex is broadcast online

"The suicide of a university student — after a recording of him having a sexual encounter with a man was broadcast online — has stirred outrage and remorse on campus from classmates.

"Had he been in bed with a woman, this would not have happened," said Rutgers University student Lauren Felton, 21. "He wouldn't have been outed via an online broadcast and his privacy would have been respected and he might still have his life."

Gay rights groups say Tyler Clementi's suicide make him a national example of a problem they are working to combat: Young people who kill themselves after being tormented over their sexuality...

<snip>

A body found in the Hudson River off New York City was identified on Thursday as Clementi's. New York City medical examiner's spokeswoman Grace Burgess confirmed Clementi committed suicide, saying he drowned and had impact injuries on his torso..."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39438381/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

[AldebTX]

1. Just Sad :-(

[myrna minx]

2. .

I just weep. :cry:

[PCIntern]

3. Beyond tragic...

what colleges and universities should do, is have huge posters greeeting the incoming students in the Fall, and they should say the equivalent of:

If you are upset, troubled, scared, weepy, depressed, in shock, feel you don't fit in, feel you can't do the work, or anything else, COME SEE US AT THE UNIVERSITY COUNSELING SERVICE RIGHT AWAY. WE ARE AVAILABLE 24 HOURS A DAY AND WILL HELP YOU. WE PROMISE! PLEASE!!!

[Mimosa]

7. ^ Wow. That would be perfect, PCIntern. ^ n/t

[Trekologer]

27. Rutgers University does have such counseling available

There is a direct phone number but one can get in touch with a counselor by dialing 911 from any campus phone 24/7.

[alcibiades_mystery]

30. Colleges do that

I've been in and around universities the majority of my adult life, and every single one of them has aggressive counseling promotion and training.

[PCIntern]

36. So have I...

but rarely is it so absolutely stressed to Freshmen. They sholuld be spoken to the way someone's uncle or aunt should emphatically do so, one on one...I know that sounds extreme and probably unwieldy, but that was done when I was in school, and it made a REAL impression. I also have first degree ties to a University Counseling Center and understand your point. I just believe that it should be stressed #1. As well that it should be.

[Leftist Agitator]

38. We will have you committed to an inpatient hospital, and good luck ever getting out!

n/t

[AlabamaLibrul]

44. Unfortunately you're right. (ask me how i know) n/t

[Lorien]

46. Yep. nt

[Statistical]

41. The problems is sadly awareness if often not enough.

Not saying colleges shouldn't do that (and many do) just that in that moment the situation seems so overwhelming the individual isn't looking/wanting counseling/help/talking. They are just looking for an immediate end to the pain.

Even if he saw the posters, believe the "promise" he may still have decided to end it all. It is a sad reality. People who are suicidal often are not rational and thus rational solutions tend not to work.

[Leftist Agitator]

54. I know that you mean well, but please...

Don't encourage troubled college students to visit their University counseling service. All too often, they will destroy a student's life under the aegis of "trying to help". I lost 15 months of my life because I was foolish enough to think that it was a prudent idea to seek help for a major depressive episode from my University's counseling center. Despite the fact that I wasn't in the least suicidal (just very depressed), they arrived at the erroneous conclusion that I was, and had to be incarcerated "for my own safety".

Again, I know you meant well, but the reality of the situation is that, much like police, university counselors are not your friends, *ever*.

Take care,

Leftist Agitator

[DearAbby]

4. My Heart just aches so

RIP and safe journey.

[catbyte]

5. I'm glad they arrested his roomate & friend

and I hope they throw the book at both of them. First that child in California and now this...I'm just so sad.

This is what happens when civility flies out the window. This is the legacy of the Tea Pary and like-minded groups. It's just tragic and wrong. RIP young man.

Diane

[malaise]

6. It's too sad

I don't know the kid but I cried when I watched.
I hope those two animals rot in prison.

[The Northerner]

8. Below is an image of the perps, Dharun Ravi & Molly Wei

Clementi is the person on the left side:



RIP Mr. Clementi

[JI7]

19. Fucking Trash , i hope their lives are ruined

i really wonder about some people. how can anyone think this was ok ???????? i think some people are just useless trash.

[ljm2002]

23. Thanks for the pics...

...it will help me to enjoy it all the more later, when we see pics of those two with the smiles wiped off their rotten faces as they head to jail for a long time.

Well, a person can hope.

[alcibiades_mystery]

32. I don't see how they'll get prison time

Maybe Ravi will get a year and a day, and be out in six months. Wei will get three years probation. There's no way that they get sentenced to the maximum with clean records and the facts of the actual crime here.

[ljm2002]

52. Filming someone without their knowledge...

...in a sexual situation and broadcasting it publicly? I think the facts of the case are pretty clear. Granted they may not be able to be charged with manslaughter or something like that; still, it is a serious invasion of privacy and especially since it was broadcast publicly, it seems to me there should be more serious charges than simple invasion of privacy.

But IANAL and I don't play one on TV either.

Well there is always shunning. I'm betting these two won't be the most popular students on campus this year.

[Leftist Agitator]

39. That middle fellow is 18?

He looks like he's 35...

[babydollhead]

49. This is tragic

My son's off to his first year away at college and they are goofy and mean and doing anything for a laugh. This is awful for the boy, these are children away from home and flexing all the muscles about everything. My son tells us of mean games he and his roommates play on each other. Taking everything too far. How did we fail as parents/ I have never put up with my kids calling each other"Gay" I say,"Your Uncles are gay, people we love are gay. Love is good." In school they taunt each other. I wish he had reached out for some help. It's heavily loaded. I talked with my son a long time last night about this. People feel a great power from the anonymity of the computer

[tblue37]

9. The article quotes what the boy said in a chat room before he died:

"He added at 9:28 a.m. that day, that 'I feel like it was 'look at what a fag my roommate is' ... and the fact that the people he was with saw my making out with a guy as a scandal whereas i mean come on ... he was SPYING ON ME ... do they see nothing wrong with this? unsettling to say the least.'"

Exactly!!

[DirkGently]

10. Is is strange that he at first seemed less upset, or was it that it was later "broadcast?"

Doesn't dilute the horror of the situation either way, but I saw those comments too, and wondered how he went from this quote, and another remarking that his roommate was okay except for being an occasional "@sshole," to suicide?

Was it that he at first perceived that his roommate had only spied on him (and Twittered about it) and became distraught when he realized it had been broadcast publicly?

I was just thrown by the fact that his supposed online comments seemed annoyed and ticked off, but not mortified or despondent. Struck me as strange.

[jobycom]

21. I think that was before it was broadcast. The chat room was anonymous

In the chat room he was under a nickname, and the video hadn't been broadcast, so he still felt safe. Once he realized it had been broadcast he panicked, I guess. At his age, he probably felt that his secret had to be protected, and once it was exposed, he thought his life was ruined. You remember that feeling, don't you? As a teenager you feel that everything about yourself is larger than it is, and if anyone finds out even your little secrets, you won't know what to do. His was a big secret for him, and when it was exposed, he didn't know what to do. He panicked, he was terrified, and he reacted by trying to escape it all.

Saddest story I can imagine. I'm so furious at the assholes who thought it was funny or cool or whatever to broadcast him like that. I can't imagine what they were thinking, whether it was a joke, or whether they wanted to ruin his life, or what. The worst part is, I can't even hate them over it, because it isn't their fault that society makes it the way it is. They were still kids, too, just doing what society and Hollywood and half of university culture tells them to do--cut up, play pranks, mock gays, wail on people for being different. Reminds me of Emilio Estevez's story in "The Breakfast Club" of torturing the nerdy kid because his dad wanted him to be like that. Maybe the next day he'd have felt guilty. Maybe not, maybe he's just a selfish piece of crap, who knows?

But society killed that kid. Punish the couple that pulled the trigger, so to speak, but society and its goddamned prejudices and its hate-filled psuedo-moral codes are the gun they shot. How do you punish them? How do you punish anyone and make up for this? All you can do is hope this becomes the big horror story that finally wakes this damn nation up. And I hate to say this because I'll get flamed for it, but is it too much to ask for a little more leadership from our Democratic politicians on this? Isn't it time to stop trying not to piss off voters, and time to start leading America? All of them, all the Democrats--whatever we are doing, it isn't enough yet. Can they, can we, finally get that?

I gotta go. I can't see the screen anymore.

[dem mba]

43. I find it quite odd as well

and also, well, this is NYC/NJ. NYC has one of the largest and healthiest gay communities in the nation. Maybe he was just too young to realize that he had lots of potential friends and allies less than 20 minutes away.

[DirkGently]

53. Had to the broadcast. Sheer terror, I'm sure. Dammit kid, call someone; don't just . . . crap.

[Terra Alta]

11. it's such a shame

that in 2010 people are still afraid to come out, and that once they are outed they end their lives.

This is what bigotry does to people, and it is disgusting. It's 2010; shouldn't people start accepting others for who they are, and not what their religion supposedly says? It's pathetic and sad. May this young man rest in peace.

[WCGreen]

12. that's just awful.....

[spanone]

13. ...

[KittyWampus]

14. read this morning and it broke my heart.

[City Lights]

15. My heart breaks for Tyler.

:cry:

I have no tolerance for intolerance. I hope those two sub-humans are shunned on campus.

[alcibiades_mystery]

33. Oh, they'll surely be expelled

I doubt they'll ever set foot on that campus again.

[madmax]

16. This is more than a suicide.

It's a monumental tragedy. So senseless.

Why did these 2 college students find this to be something that had to be done? WTF! IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE!

RIP Tyler, maybe now.

[ScreamingMeemie]

31. Every suicide is a monumental tragedy.

twloha.com

[leftynyc]

17. I've driven that bridge countless times

The thought that he went there and stood on that very high bridge and felt it was the only way out breaks my heart.

[frogmarch]

18. This is awful!

I am so sorry about Tyler Clementi killing himself, and so angry at the two who conspired against him. I hope they go to prison. Assholes.

[LongTomH]

20. From the MSNBC story, it seems many of his classmates were outraged at his persecution.

I have a lot of hope for this current generation; but, it only takes a few bigots to cause a tragedy like this!:cry:

[AspenRose]

22. It should be more than that.

"Clementi's roommate, Dharun Ravi, and fellow Rutgers student Molly Wei, both 18, have been charged with invading Clementi's privacy."

They should be charged with murder. Blood on their hands.

[Lyric]

24. Oh, I'm sure they'll be charged with more than that.

Those are just the initial charges. They won't be charged with murder (however just such a charge might be) because it was a suicide. But they can be charged with other things, and the judge can make sure that all the sentences run *consecutively*, which will keep them in prison a looooong time.

[bullwinkle428]

29. I have a really sick feeling they'll end up walking, with nothing more

than community service and probation on their records! :mad:

"Good kids, from good families, don'tcha know!" :puke:

[alcibiades_mystery]

35. Wei will get probation for sure

I think Ravi will get a year.

[alcibiades_mystery]

34. Not going to happen

They'll plead on the invasion of privacy.

Ravi will get 12 months+1 day, or 13 months - so that it's state rather than county time. He'll be out in four to eight months. Wei will get three years probation.

Sucks, yes, but you can bank on that.

[Jkid]

25. Reckless homicide would be more fitting as the charge.

[Left coast liberal]

26. I know, I can't stop thinking about his sad, sad @#$%&-up story. nt

[donheld]

28. I hear ya.

[TexasObserver]

37. recommend

[Solly Mack]

40. k/r

[lightningandsnow]

42. So sad.

:(

[seabeyond]

45. i will remember him always..... i, too, am so sorry. nt

[handmade34]

47. I'm too am so very sorry

I tear up for Tyler and then I become outraged what we are as a society... I hope this is a turning point

[xchrom]

48. Sorry Tyler you didn't find the world a better place. Nt

[Hell Hath No Fury]

50. This story has really hit me hard.

I want to wring the necks of those two little fucks who somehow thought this would be funny/cool/whatever. They are the worst kind of scum -- have they lost any semblance of common decency? Have they watched "American Pie" a few too many times and thought that this is now acceptable behavior towards another human being?? The disgust and anger I feel towards them is alarming.

And the sadness about a young man who was violated in such a way and felt the only solution was death is breaking my heart. :cry:

[pgodbold]

51. I can hear the defense attorney now. How could these two innocent and normal people realize how

confused and ashamed the homosexual mind is? The word homosexual will be used over and over and over in court. After all he was a pervert your honor.