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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 05:43 PM
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With Rahm gone will the Administration still follow the "Everything is Negotiable" pattern?
To me not "everything" is negotiable.. There has to be some core values, somethings that are truly Democratic Values that just can not be negotiated on..Is there such a thing or is that just ... so yesterday? I don't really know anymore what the Democratic Party represents.....I used to think I did, but it sure does not seem the case anymore...When Anti-Abortion Democrats keep Health Care for the people hostage unless an anti-abortion amendment is put into it, When a foreign "war" the very great majority of Americans oppose, gets escalated and the Torture Chamber known as Gitmo stays in operation, it is difficult to really know anymore just what Democrats stand for..:shrug:
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 05:50 PM
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1.  You betcha. They are just changing the "frontman" not the policy.
Basic human values are NOT negotiable to me and they never will be. That is why this "everything is negotiable" philosophy and alleged "pragmatism" deeply disgusts me. I became a Democrat because I support Democratic Values. I never agreed to "bargain" them away for the sake of the self interest of a few politicians. If I wanted to have no values, I would be a Republican.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 05:54 PM
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2. Many here have contended that it was all Rahm's fault
Now we'll see.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 05:58 PM
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3. Rahm Is Responsible for the Ugliness
If his goals were supported, then he wasn't the only one to blame.

I'd love to know what motivated Rahm to leave the sinking ship. Or if he was pushed.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 06:02 PM
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4. The replacement is a Daschle protege, you want us to lie???
Weak wrists run through that office like cooked fetuccine through an Olive Garden.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 06:12 PM
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5. Rahm carried out Obama's policies...not the other way around. n/t
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 06:20 PM
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6. Yes, the pattern will remain.
I don't blame Rahm for it. Obama has always been in favor of everyone getting along. I think he's a negotiator by nature.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 06:25 PM
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7. I don't mind reasonable negotiations
But there is such a thing as being so open-minded that your brain falls out. The Democrats need to recognize a lot sooner the point at which there's nothing more to negotiate, and just forge ahead with their program. We the people elected them and put them in the majority for a reason.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 07:38 PM
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8. What "core values?" Everyone's opinion on that will differ.
Edited on Thu Sep-30-10 07:38 PM by treestar
And since we never March in Lockstep that will be even more true.

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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 07:39 PM
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9. Nothing will change much because of this. Obama is and always has been the President, not Rahm. n/t
PB
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